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Ben December 16th 05 10:27 AM

Electric Tankless Water Heaters
 
I'm considering switching to a tankless, electric, whole-house water heater
for my condo. From what I've read, the right capacity unit can do a great
job as well as
save on electricity. Mainly, I need the space now taken by the tank heater
for a water softener. Just wondering if anyone here has experience with
these. One of my concerns is with reliability and repairs. I was told that
the circuitry and valves may be subject to problems, especially power
fluxes. Brand recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks much for your help




m Ransley December 16th 05 10:58 AM

Electric Tankless Water Heaters
 
They need 120amp for a small Bosch do you have 120a free. If you have
gas probably not. For me in the midwest and most of the US Ng is and
always will be cheaper per Btu. I pulled out an electric tank and put in
a NG Bosch I save apx 20$ a month.


Gary Slusser December 16th 05 03:38 PM

Electric Tankless Water Heaters
 
How much space do you have now? A two tank type softener will need a
space along the wall of roughly 30" and out from the well about 18-20".
A low priced and low quality big box store type (GE, Kenmore, Whirlpool
etc, all built by Ecowater with the same parts except GE uses a
different motor) will take a little less space along the wall but come
out away from the wall a bit more. They are very hard to work on if
needed. And they usually only last 2-4 years before having to be
repaired.

I suggest any properly sized two tank softener using a Clack WS-1
control valve. That control is the easiest to repair and should last
5-15 years before repair is needed. The warranty is 5 years. Those big
box store brands have a 3 year warranty on the whole softener! The
tanks of a two tank model sold by independent dealers, as opposed to
Culligan, Kinetico etc., have 10 year warranties. And IMO the quality
of the control valve is critical to service free operation of the
softener because that's where all the moving parts are. The Clack has
the fewest parts of all controls, 5 and only one moving part in the
water stream. You having never seen one before can replace any part in
less than 15 minutes. It is a DIYer's dream because it was designed to
be the easiest to repair for the dealer.

If you buy over the internet, you will save, in some cases, thousand's
of dolars compared to a local dealer's price for the same softener. And
anyone with the desire and a few common tools can install their own
softener in 3-4 hours.

To learn how to correctly size a softener for both salt efficiency and
the SFR (service flow rate) your family and peak demand water flow rate
gpm requires, see the sizing chart and calculator pages on my web site.

Gary
Quality Water Associates
www.qualitywaterassociates.com


SQLit December 16th 05 05:53 PM

Electric Tankless Water Heaters
 

"Ben" wrote in message
. ..
I'm considering switching to a tankless, electric, whole-house water

heater
for my condo. From what I've read, the right capacity unit can do a great
job as well as
save on electricity. Mainly, I need the space now taken by the tank heater
for a water softener. Just wondering if anyone here has experience with
these. One of my concerns is with reliability and repairs. I was told that
the circuitry and valves may be subject to problems, especially power
fluxes. Brand recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks much for your help


what is a power flux????



m Ransley December 16th 05 06:44 PM

Electric Tankless Water Heaters
 
power flux as in flux capacitor, "Back to the future"



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