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Rex December 3rd 05 06:13 AM

Kitchen sink types
 
I noticed I don't really have a use for the partition in the middle of the
sink splitting it into two small sections. I was going to get a new sink
with one large section and one small section, then thought it might be good
to just have one giant sink without a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?
Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?



Sacramento Dave December 3rd 05 07:11 AM

Kitchen sink types
 

"Rex" wrote in message
. ..
I noticed I don't really have a use for the partition in the middle of the
sink splitting it into two small sections. I was going to get a new sink
with one large section and one small section, then thought it might be

good
to just have one giant sink without a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?
Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?

There is people that hate double sinks. I crew up with a single. In my

recent kitchen I could not find a nice looking single under mount so I did a
double one large 9" deep side and one small side.



[email protected] December 3rd 05 07:17 AM

Kitchen sink types
 
These things are usually at the whims of fashion. I notice a lot of
large sinks and large side by side types going into new construction
and renovations here in Chicago. Also popular are the high goose neck
faucets or the facet/pull out sprayer combos. All in the name of
practicality. If you have a friend in real estate they can always
recommend.
Richard


[email protected] December 3rd 05 08:07 AM

Kitchen sink types
 

Rex wrote:
I noticed I don't really have a use for the partition in the middle of the
sink splitting it into two small sections. I was going to get a new sink
with one large section and one small section, then thought it might be good
to just have one giant sink without a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?
Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?


One large rectangular sink is the way to go. It's a benefit for
resale, not a liability, as such sinks are higher end. I really think
that eventually double basin sinks in kitchens will go the way of the
dinosaur. They're a holdover from a time without dishwashers where
people would have one basin full of soapy water with every bowl, fork
and spoon; and another basin to rinse in.

But really, if you want to wash certain items by hand, just put a dab
of dish soap right on them from a pump dispenser to wash them, and then
rinse them off. Another benefit of one spacious sink basin is that you
can fit oversized items in (think cookie sheet).

If you ever needed a separate basin, you could just keep a little
plastic basin under the sink to use occasionally. I doubt it'd get
used, though.


Banty December 3rd 05 12:54 PM

Kitchen sink types
 
In article , Rex says...

I noticed I don't really have a use for the partition in the middle of the
sink splitting it into two small sections. I was going to get a new sink
with one large section and one small section, then thought it might be good
to just have one giant sink without a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?
Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?



It's also for things like having a place to rinse and peel vegetables whilst
having a pan soak or a partner drains pasta. Stuff like that.

But in my remod I'm going for a big sink, and will invest in some stainless
steel tubs for when I need separation (won't have drains, though).

Others will have to respond regarding refitting the new sink.

Banty


Edwin Pawlowski December 3rd 05 01:20 PM

Kitchen sink types
 


"Rex" wrote in message

I was going to get a new sink with one large section and one small
section, then thought it might be good to just have one giant sink without
a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?



Nope, I'd rather the one large sink.

Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?


Yes, to annoy the heck out of me. I hate our double sink and can't wait to
change it to a single.



Norminn December 3rd 05 02:07 PM

Kitchen sink types
 
Rex wrote:

I noticed I don't really have a use for the partition in the middle of the
sink splitting it into two small sections. I was going to get a new sink
with one large section and one small section, then thought it might be good
to just have one giant sink without a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?
Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?



I almost always have soapy water in one sink while I am cooking or
baking, so's I can keep dishes washed and wipe up spills. If I had only
one sink, I could not do that or I would have to use dishpan (ugly!).
Also need to rinse more dishes or clean veggies while dish washing is
going on. I think it would be PIA to have only one sink. Hubby
convinced me to get deeper sink when we remodeled, and we have a high
faucet, the kind that is "U" shaped, and it is real handy for large
pots. Our sink is 9", I believe. Deeper would be too low for me
because I am tall. I like the sinks with drainboard, as most of our
dishes drain dry because I am too lazy to load the dishwasher.
Dishwasher requires almost as much work and water as doing it the
old-fashioned way :o)

[email protected] December 3rd 05 04:41 PM

Kitchen sink types
 
Most of this boils down to your main uses for the sink and personal
preferences. About 6 months ago I replaced my kitchen sink and spent a
couple of weeks sorting through the options. Here are my thougths:

First, the most useless sinks, IMO are the two bowel disposal models
where there is one large bowl, one very small bowl, split about 80/20.
Until recently, I never knew what the idea behind these was. The small
bowl is supposed to be for the garbage disposal, with the idea being
that you scrape plates off into it. I've never done this, one reason
being in my house, the disposal was installed on the large bowl. And
if I scrape off plates, I only scrape off the big stuff and I usuallydo
that right into the garbage can. So the small bowl, IMO, is usesless.

Then there are the two bowel sinks with both bowls of decent size.
The big advantage of having two bowels for me is having a clean back up
sink available. For example, when cooking, I can be using one bowl for
prep work with veg scraps, etc, and use the second for a collander. Or
just having it available to use should the need arise while the other
bowl if occupied. Of the two bowl sinks of decent size there are two
types:

Equal bowls - These can be OK, but the main drawback is that neither
bowl is large enough for big pots/pans.

Bowls split to be about 2/3, 1/3. This is my strong preference. The
main bowl is then large enough to fit most pots/pans, while the second
bowl is still big enough as a second sink. The depth of the bowls is
another key factor, deep is much better. It gives more room and even
makes the spray much more usefull, as there is less blowback when
spraying things. Drain location is another factor, with drains
located in the back a plus, as it gives more space on the sink bottom,
without the drain being there.

I decided on the Kohler Marsala, which is shown on their website. It
has two bowls, split about 2/3, 1/3 with the larger one being very
deep, the second being average depth. It comes with a single faucet
hole located at the middle divider, with an optional second hole in the
corner. This eliminates the dead space usually running along the back
of the sink, so the two bowls both go far back, right to the rim,
giving a couple of extra inchs of room. The drains are located in the
rear. I have my hot water dispenser in the corner hole.

Regarding sink options and extra holes, another conclusion I came to is
that I didn't want a soap dispenser. When I dispense soap, it is
frequently onto something, like a pot, so I prefer to have a soap
bottle handy.

I absolutely love the Marsala and think it is the perfect std size
sink. Hope all this helps!


[email protected] December 3rd 05 06:21 PM

Kitchen sink types
 
I had a few thoughts after reading some of the replies.

1.) Most garbage disposal manufacturers warn against shoving piles of
peelings down the disposal, so it makes sense to peel into something
you can empty into the garbage or a compost pile.

2.) Even if you decide to peel into the sink, who cares if peels get
soapy, or get pasta water on them? It's garbage. You really don't do
"food prep" on the dirty bottom of a sink.

3.) When someone needs to drain a big pot of boiling pasta water,
you're going to get out of their way anyway, and it takes mere seconds,
so a divider isn't needed.

4.) If you feel you need to soak some dish, most items (pots, pans,
plates, casserole dishes, etc) will hold thier own soapy water, so
there's no need for immersion. And without a divider, there's more
room to set set dishes.

After two years of putting up with two basins, I realized one day that
not once in all that time did my wife or I ever need or use that
divider that was getting in the way and taking up valuable sink room.


Banty December 3rd 05 06:52 PM

Kitchen sink types
 
In article .com,
says...

I had a few thoughts after reading some of the replies.

1.) Most garbage disposal manufacturers warn against shoving piles of
peelings down the disposal, so it makes sense to peel into something
you can empty into the garbage or a compost pile.


One reason why I dont' miss having a garbage disposal. You need to scrape stuff
into the garbage and get it out of the house anyways. (BTW, anyone catch the NPR
story on plumbers' busiest day of the year being the Friday after Thanksgiving?)


2.) Even if you decide to peel into the sink, who cares if peels get
soapy, or get pasta water on them? It's garbage. You really don't do
"food prep" on the dirty bottom of a sink.


I care. Not for the peels, of course. But for the blockage and the overall
accumilating mess. It *is* nice to have one little basin clean for some things
while there's a mess in the other.


3.) When someone needs to drain a big pot of boiling pasta water,
you're going to get out of their way anyway, and it takes mere seconds,
so a divider isn't needed.


They quickly clean up before they do?? Or do you *enjoy* that mush-mess of
potato peels, strawberry tops, and eggshells, 4qt. of pasta-water, mix gently??

I dunno - I'm the only cook. The veggies need peeling sometimes when the pasta
needs draining, and I'm out of my own way...


4.) If you feel you need to soak some dish, most items (pots, pans,
plates, casserole dishes, etc) will hold thier own soapy water, so
there's no need for immersion. And without a divider, there's more
room to set set dishes.


Yep, this one I agree with. And the cookie sheet, and the turkey pan. Although
with my old double sink I got pretty good and just turning around for stage two
cleaning..


After two years of putting up with two basins, I realized one day that
not once in all that time did my wife or I ever need or use that
divider that was getting in the way and taking up valuable sink room.


I was totally on the fence (um...divider?) about the two vs. one basin thing,
and went for one basin for the remod. But it's really an individual thing. For
me, advantages vs. disadvantages are about a toss-up.

Banty (hmmmm, granite's not cut yet, maybe I can change my mind...)


[email protected] December 4th 05 12:02 AM

Kitchen sink types
 
"1.) Most garbage disposal manufacturers warn against shoving piles of
peelings down the disposal, so it makes sense to peel into something
you can empty into the garbage or a compost pile. "

I've never seen this from any disposal manufacturer. They do caution
against putting certain things down the disposal, like corn cobs, but
I've put a lot of peels and vegetable products in disposals for years
with no problems. That is one of their main points for me.

"2.) Even if you decide to peel into the sink, who cares if peels get
soapy, or get pasta water on them? It's garbage. You really don't do
"food prep" on the dirty bottom of a sink. "

No one mentioned wanting to keep peels from getting soapy. What was
mentioned was having one bowl with peels, dishes or soap foam in it and
being able to use a second clean bowl for other use, like putting a
collander for pasta in.

3.) When someone needs to drain a big pot of boiling pasta water,
you're going to get out of their way anyway, and it takes mere seconds,

so a divider isn't needed.

I don;t know what this has to do with one or two bowls.


"After two years of putting up with two basins, I realized one day that

not once in all that time did my wife or I ever need or use that
divider that was getting in the way and taking up valuable sink room. "

I use two bowls frequently enough that it is a valuable feature for me.
Which shows why manufacturers make them both ways.


Todd H. December 6th 05 07:25 PM

Kitchen sink types
 
writes:

Which shows why manufacturers make them both ways.


And sell good numbers of both.

It's personal preference.

Interesting discussion though on folks preferences. I like a double
sink myself because there are always dishes I don't want going into
the dishwasher (the good knives, the pots with handles that'll dry
out, etc), and I like being able to fill up a sink bowl with hot soapy
water to do a thorough job of cleaning all surfaces without using too
much water, and to have another bowl that's clean as can be to put the
finished dishes to dry w/o having an ugly drying rack hanging around
taking up counter space.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

Percival P. Cassidy December 7th 05 01:02 AM

Kitchen sink types
 
On 12/03/05 03:07 am tossed the following
ingredients into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

I noticed I don't really have a use for the partition in the middle of the
sink splitting it into two small sections. I was going to get a new sink
with one large section and one small section, then thought it might be good
to just have one giant sink without a partition at all.
Is this problem at resale time?
Is there another common purpose for having a split sink other than to have
soapy water and rinse water separation for hand washing?


One large rectangular sink is the way to go. It's a benefit for
resale, not a liability, as such sinks are higher end. I really think
that eventually double basin sinks in kitchens will go the way of the
dinosaur. They're a holdover from a time without dishwashers where
people would have one basin full of soapy water with every bowl, fork
and spoon; and another basin to rinse in.

But really, if you want to wash certain items by hand, just put a dab
of dish soap right on them from a pump dispenser to wash them, and then
rinse them off. Another benefit of one spacious sink basin is that you
can fit oversized items in (think cookie sheet).

If you ever needed a separate basin, you could just keep a little
plastic basin under the sink to use occasionally. I doubt it'd get
used, though.


Today we noticed at least one sink with a single large bowl that comes
with a separate small bowl that is an exact fit.

Perce

Percival P. Cassidy December 7th 05 01:05 AM

Kitchen sink types
 
On 12/03/05 09:07 am Norminn tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

. . . I like the sinks with drainboard, as most of our
dishes drain dry because I am too lazy to load the dishwasher.
Dishwasher requires almost as much work and water as doing it the
old-fashioned way :o)


But a dishwasher uses hotter water and more potent detergent than your
hands can stand, so should contribute to your health and hygiene.

Perce


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