LOWE'S: The good news is that they have a huge selection. The bad
news is that none of the 6 we were willing to buy was in stock, and
they wouldn't special order them because they are on continuous order.
We would have to go on a waiting list for any item we were willing to
buy. The sales guy was a prick. Screw Lowe's.
_______________

HOME DEPOT: Small selection but we were able to have whatever we chose
delivered in 2 days. Nice sales lady. So we bought one of those new
high efficiency front loaders with matching dryer. Wasn't cheap.

However, without even trying, the delivery guy said that the new
venting tube wouldn't fit and used our old one from the previous
dryer. On top of that, the nice sales lady forgot to give us a copy
of the extended warranty we paid for.

I was able to return the new venting cable but not without a fight.
Clerk wanted a 15% re-stocking fee. Bull****, the sales lady said we
needed it; it wasn't my choice. Wasn't my fault the delivery guy was
unable (or unwilling) to install it. It never left the package.
Also, it was a hassle to get a copy of the warranty plan that the
original sales lady forgot. There were different sales people on duty
and they had attitudes when they saw we were there to get a copy of
the warrranty rather than buy something. They acted like we were
asking for access to their bank accounts rather than a sheet of paper
with warranty terms and conditions.

Both are crap!!!!!!

"Jack" wrote in message
...
LOWE'S: The good news is that they have a huge selection. The bad
news is that none of the 6 we were willing to buy was in stock, and
they wouldn't special order them because they are on continuous order.
We would have to go on a waiting list for any item we were willing to
buy. The sales guy was a prick. Screw Lowe's.
_______________

We recently purchased a dishwasher through Lowes. After extensive research,
I'd already picked out the specific model that I wanted. This had nothing
to do with Lowes specifically, except that Lowes happened to carry the model
we wanted . . . at least ONLINE they did. We've had it for a few weeks now,
and we love it. It was one that the local Lowes did not carry. If I'd
ordered it at the store, it would have been a special order. But the sales
guy (at the store) was ready and willing to order it for us, if I wanted him
to. But first I wanted to find a plumber willing to do the job, as we had
some other plumbing work that needed to be done in the kitchen at the same
time. I ordered it online through lowes. It took a couple of weeks to come
in, but our plumber was over-booked those two weeks anyway.

Meanwhile, (while the dishwasher was on order) we decided to buy a
snowblower, also from Lowes. We weren't as picky about brand/model, so when
we saw a decent one on sale in the flyer, we decided to just go buy it.
They had the one we wanted in stock, but we wanted it to be delivered. The
salesperson at lowes was happy to arrange for delivery. I mentioned that we
were waiting for a dishwasher that we'd previously ordered online. The
salesperson looked up our earlier order, and added the snowblower to it. We
got hit with one delivery charge for both items. Couldn't have been easier.
Our sales guy was really nice. He was the one who suggested adding the
snowblower to our earlier order to save on delivery charges. He didn't have
to do that.

I find it hard to believe that lowes would not special order a washer/dryer
for you. I suspect you just had a bad salesperson, or that particular
salesperson was just having a really ****ty day and unfortunately decided to
take it out on you. Lowes is OK. -Dave

"Mike T." wrote in message
eenews.net...
I find it hard to believe that lowes would not special order a
washer/dryer for you. I suspect you just had a bad salesperson, or that
particular salesperson was just having a really ****ty day and
unfortunately decided to take it out on you. Lowes is OK. -Dave

My experience at Lowes was much like yours, positive. I don't think it
makes much sense to trash an entire store because a single salesdroid had an
attitude. Tell a manager or send email to the customer service address.
When you eliminate a store like Lowes from the list of possibilities, you're
only screwing yourself.

+++

On 10/31/05 01:42 pm Jabber tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

I find it hard to believe that lowes would not special order a
washer/dryer for you. I suspect you just had a bad salesperson, or that
particular salesperson was just having a really ****ty day and
unfortunately decided to take it out on you. Lowes is OK. -Dave

My experience at Lowes was much like yours, positive. I don't think it
makes much sense to trash an entire store because a single salesdroid had an
attitude. Tell a manager or send email to the customer service address.
When you eliminate a store like Lowes from the list of possibilities, you're
only screwing yourself.

ISTM that many people knock Lowe's and HD largely because some
particular model of appliance or some particular line of paint (for
example) is not available there. But in many cases, the identical
product is available at Lowe's or HD but with a different model number
or name simply to protect competing stores from having to match the price.

Same thing with Sam's Club and Costco on some items.

Perce

Personally I'd avoid both Lowes and Home Despot for appliances... but...

Contact Lowes head office and tell them what you said here - You WANT to buy
something but the store was not willing to find or order one for you. Report
the salesperson you were talking to.

Tell them that this is just not acceptable and you want those appliances and
expect some kind of "apology" gesture to show that Lowes actually wants you
as a customer.


"Jack" wrote in message
...
LOWE'S: The good news is that they have a huge selection. The bad
news is that none of the 6 we were willing to buy was in stock, and
they wouldn't special order them because they are on continuous order.
We would have to go on a waiting list for any item we were willing to
buy. The sales guy was a prick. Screw Lowe's.
_______________

HOME DEPOT: Small selection but we were able to have whatever we chose
delivered in 2 days. Nice sales lady. So we bought one of those new
high efficiency front loaders with matching dryer. Wasn't cheap.

However, without even trying, the delivery guy said that the new
venting tube wouldn't fit and used our old one from the previous
dryer. On top of that, the nice sales lady forgot to give us a copy
of the extended warranty we paid for.

I was able to return the new venting cable but not without a fight.
Clerk wanted a 15% re-stocking fee. Bull****, the sales lady said we
needed it; it wasn't my choice. Wasn't my fault the delivery guy was
unable (or unwilling) to install it. It never left the package.
Also, it was a hassle to get a copy of the warranty plan that the
original sales lady forgot. There were different sales people on duty
and they had attitudes when they saw we were there to get a copy of
the warrranty rather than buy something. They acted like we were
asking for access to their bank accounts rather than a sheet of paper
with warranty terms and conditions.

Jack wrote:
snip tales of woe at both stores

FWIW, I had an excellent shopping experience at Sears when I was buying
my washer and dryer. The salesman was competent, the model we wanted
was available, it was delivered in 3 days, and the workmen (though a
little late arriving) were super-fast during the delivery and
installation.

I've had remarkably good experiences at Lowes and remarkably bad
experiences at Home Depot, but I think that's more related to the
specific stores and employees than the entire chains.

--
Jennifer

....
LOWE'S: The good news is that they have a huge selection. The bad
news is that none of the 6 we were willing to buy was in stock, and
they wouldn't special order them because they are on continuous order.
We would have to go on a waiting list for any item we were willing to
buy. The sales guy was a prick. Screw Lowe's.
_______________

HOME DEPOT: Small selection but we were able to have whatever we chose
delivered in 2 days. Nice sales lady. So we bought one of those new
high efficiency front loaders with matching dryer. Wasn't cheap.

Go to a local appliance dealer. One in town here is a part of Brand
Central, a co-op of dealers that is able to buy at better pricing than
individual. He will order anything you want and usually has in in two days.
They deliver and install and bett eh price of the big box stores every time.
Try the local guy, he really wants and cares about you as a customer.

The service I get from them is just so far supeiror to the big stores. When
my freezer broke, he brought one to use until he got the one I wanted. When
I bought some parts to fix my washer and then decided to b uy new instead,
he took the parts back (full refund) and delivered, installed, took the old
one away within three hours of me being at the store. Try to get delivery
like that from Sears.

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:58:54 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:


ISTM that many people knock Lowe's and HD largely because some
particular model of appliance or some particular line of paint (for
example) is not available there. But in many cases, the identical
product is available at Lowe's or HD but with a different model number
or name simply to protect competing stores from having to match the price.

I agree with everything you say, except that when say, HD has its own
model number for something, it's to protect *themselves* from having
to match the price at some other store. Not to protect competing
stores.

In the case of one company this annoyed me a lot, but HD and Lowes
don't make a big deal about matching other stores' price, iirc. And
if they say it at all, I guess they would on the many smaller products
that they don't have their own model number for.



Same thing with Sam's Club and Costco on some items.

Perce


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The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

And my experiences have been mostly negative. If they're out of
stock on something, but the computer indicates that there's
still inventory, they won't reorder even though the shelf has
been empty for six months and they acknowledge that the quantity
in the computer is wrong.

Jabber wrote:
"Mike T." wrote in message
eenews.net...

I find it hard to believe that lowes would not special order a
washer/dryer for you. I suspect you just had a bad salesperson, or that
particular salesperson was just having a really ****ty day and
unfortunately decided to take it out on you. Lowes is OK. -Dave


My experience at Lowes was much like yours, positive. I don't think it
makes much sense to trash an entire store because a single salesdroid had an
attitude. Tell a manager or send email to the customer service address.
When you eliminate a store like Lowes from the list of possibilities, you're
only screwing yourself.

+++

I bought my washer and dryer from Circuit City when they sold
appliances. One of the levelers on the washer didn't work right,
and I asked them to have somebody come out and fix or replace it.
He just screwed them all up to the maximum position and left.
I complained to Circuit City, and they delivered a new washer
the next day.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

The service I get from them is just so far supeiror to the big stores. When
my freezer broke, he brought one to use until he got the one I wanted. When
I bought some parts to fix my washer and then decided to b uy new instead,
he took the parts back (full refund) and delivered, installed, took the old
one away within three hours of me being at the store. Try to get delivery
like that from Sears.

Jack wrote:

I vote for neither. We have local family owned appliance stores that
give great service and prices.

Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 10/31/05 01:42 pm Jabber tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

I find it hard to believe that lowes would not special order a
washer/dryer for you. I suspect you just had a bad salesperson, or
that particular salesperson was just having a really ****ty day and
unfortunately decided to take it out on you. Lowes is OK. -Dave


My experience at Lowes was much like yours, positive. I don't think
it makes much sense to trash an entire store because a single
salesdroid had an attitude. Tell a manager or send email to the
customer service address. When you eliminate a store like Lowes from
the list of possibilities, you're only screwing yourself.


ISTM that many people knock Lowe's and HD largely because some
particular model of appliance or some particular line of paint (for
example) is not available there. But in many cases, the identical
product is available at Lowe's or HD but with a different model number
or name simply to protect competing stores from having to match the price.

Same thing with Sam's Club and Costco on some items.

Perce


And knowing about the inside workings of a number of manufacturers those
different numbers indicate the special run that was done to meet the
price point demanded by the big box stores.

On 11/01/05 07:15 am Improver? tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

That's certainly possible, and I don't *know* that what you say is not
true. But HD and Lowe's (and any other large chain) could also sell
identical or better products more cheaply because they've cut one or
more middlemen out of the distribution chain: it's no longer

manufacturer (- distributor) - wholesaler - retailer

but

manufacturer - retailer

Perce

Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
Both are crap!!!!!!

Thanks for that deep insight.

Improver? wrote:
The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

You couldn't be more wrong concerning Behr paint at HD. That's utter
bull****. My wife works for Behr and I work for HD. And Behr is only
sold in two places. HD and the occasional Behr store.

Curmudgeon wrote:

Improver? wrote:
The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

You couldn't be more wrong concerning Behr paint at HD. That's utter
bull****. My wife works for Behr and I work for HD. And Behr is only
sold in two places. HD and the occasional Behr store.

He's also wrong about Milwaukee--the version at the jobbers supply may
not be the same model, but it will definitely not be the same model
number as the one at the Borg. If they are the same model, they will be
the same identical tool.

Curmudgeon wrote:
Improver? wrote:

The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

You couldn't be more wrong concerning Behr paint at HD. That's utter
bull****. My wife works for Behr and I work for HD. And Behr is only
sold in two places. HD and the occasional Behr store.

Still applies, Behr used to be good paint until it became HDs "flagship"
paint.

George wrote:

Curmudgeon wrote:
Improver? wrote:

The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

You couldn't be more wrong concerning Behr paint at HD. That's utter
bull****. My wife works for Behr and I work for HD. And Behr is only
sold in two places. HD and the occasional Behr store.

Still applies, Behr used to be good paint until it became HDs "flagship"
paint.

Behr's paint of the same grade is still the same as it was...

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 10:58:48 -0500, George
wrote:

Curmudgeon wrote:
Improver? wrote:

The real reason HD & Lowes have identical products with unique model
numbers is not to protect themselves or the competition. I's because
both stores buy in job lots of popular products run specially for them,
which meet their "price points." Behr paint at HD is NOT the same as
Behr paint at a professional, specialty paint store. It's watered down
and contains less pigment.

A Milwakee sawzall purchased at a plumbing or electrical supply house
or a tool store is not the same as the ones sold in the big box stores,
which will have replaced some metal parts with plastic, and have
thinner windings around the motors, and replaced the rubber cord with
thermoplastic.

You couldn't be more wrong concerning Behr paint at HD. That's utter
bull****. My wife works for Behr and I work for HD. And Behr is only
sold in two places. HD and the occasional Behr store.

Still applies, Behr used to be good paint until it became HDs "flagship"
paint.

Even if that were true, it's not what the prior poster said. How can
you say what he said still applies?


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