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[email protected] October 30th 05 02:31 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 

I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


Dr. Hardcrab October 30th 05 02:40 PM

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wrote in message
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I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


Tough question.

What's your idea of "neutral"?

I mean no offence, but if you have painted "a room over and over again" I
don't think YOU are sure what neutral is.......



Edwin Pawlowski October 30th 05 02:50 PM

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wrote in message

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


What I'd like may be nothing what youlike. White is about as neutral as you
can et, but I don't like it. Some off whites and tans can be neutral, but
still not what I like.

If you want to add some warmth, go to rose colors, but if you like it
cooker, blue and green pastels will be what you want.

You can also buy small test sizes at Benjamin Moore stores.



Doug Kanter October 30th 05 02:52 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


This is a really weird question.

Tape the paint chips to the wall and view them for several days, under as
many kinds of light as you expect to have at various times.



Banty October 30th 05 03:00 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
In article WX49f.2226$sF6.777@trnddc03, Dr. Hardcrab says...


wrote in message
roups.com...

I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


Tough question.

What's your idea of "neutral"?

I mean no offence, but if you have painted "a room over and over again" I
don't think YOU are sure what neutral is.......



It *is* tough to get the neutral you want. Of course it depends on what is
desired in a neutral. (more taupey? more beigy - that is more yellow?) But it
also depends so much on the other things in the room, esp. flooring, and
lighting.

To the O.P. - I've (personally) been really pleased with Benjamin Moore White
Dove for a very pretty and long-wearing off-white for trim and ceilings and
walls in a room my son wanted white and blue. The Ben Moore Anique White really
is a light beige (toward the yellow side) that worked very well with dark
stained trim in a finished basement.

Get the smallest portions of paint buyable, paint two or three choices in 3x3
foot squares on a prominent wall. Then wait a week. Look in the morning, in
the mid-day, in the evening, and at night with the lighting you most often use.
Walk in and try to sense which one draws the eye in a pleasing way. During the
course of the week. Then you'll be in a better position to know what "lives"
well on the walls.

Banty


Joseph Meehan October 30th 05 03:11 PM

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wrote:
I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number
of the neutral paints you use.


Sorry, but that is why them make all those colors. What looks best sort
of depends on what each of us like.

I think the suggestion of getting a number of chips you like and leave
them in the room for a few days and check them out under all kinds of light.
You may also want to check around to see who it is and if anyone one in your
area has the option to buy just a small quantity of a color where you can
put it on your wall and see what it will look like. You may try several.
It would be littler money and little work. I think they were offering the
sample sizes for something like a dollar or two.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



John Willis October 30th 05 03:23 PM

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:52:38 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
scribbled this interesting note:


wrote in message
roups.com...

I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


This is a really weird question.

Tape the paint chips to the wall and view them for several days, under as
many kinds of light as you expect to have at various times.


Or have a quart mixed up. A quart is usually the smallest size you can
have mixed if it isn't an in stock, pre-mixed color. After you have
the quart, get your brush and paint a significant portion of the wall.
This way you get a better idea of what the color will actually look
like on your wall under your conditions. Paint chips are too small
and, because of the differences in texture, etc., they never have
exactly the same appearance after you actually paint.

My favorite color combination probably isn't for you. I like Kelly
Moore WS-18 interior flat latex for the walls. The color name is Sand
Dollar and it has a good amount of yellow in it and provides a nice,
warm feeling room. For the wood work, such as base boards and door and
window casing, I like Kelly Moore interior, oil based, semi-gloss
white. In my opinion this provides a nice contrast and provides depth
while leaving the room open for art work, drapes, and furniture to
give you all the color you want. Ceilings are acoustic, or ceiling,
white, since, in my opinion, dark colors on ceilings that are only
eight feet high tend to make a room feel like a cave.




--
John Willis

(Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Banty October 30th 05 04:06 PM

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In article , Doug Kanter says...


wrote in message
roups.com...

I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


This is a really weird question.


No it's not a weird question.

There are shades that interior painters for upscale new construction, model
homes, and homes being 'staged' for sale (by a pro after a death, for example)
turn to that are 'safe' in that they don't go too much to one or other side of
the color wheel and have wide appeal.

I'm not in those trades, but I know the answer he's looking for exists.

For example, I chose for a bathroom vanity counter a subtly textured neutral
formica. Because I wanted it. This was in the showroom of an outfit that
proobably does the most contractor supplies in the area. The sales person
commented that I had chosen the particular color and pattern used very often by
new construction. For its wide appeal and good neutral.

Something like that (in a paint color, of course), is most probably what the
O.P. is looking for.

Banty


Muvin Gruvin October 30th 05 04:36 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
have been using DeVine Paint by the Miller Paint Company of Portland,
Oregon
go to www.millerpaint.com...sorry I have never checked their website
out.
Thus far, have used their color called Filbert..... hard to describe
colors but I liken it to a pale cocoa. When the sun goes down in the
evening it almost glows like an adobe wall. It will look dark to you but
it really isn't. Its in my den/tvroom.The color sand is in my dinning
room.
Like you, have had trouble with colors. So finally hired a paint/color
advisor to come to my home to give suggestions. The lighting, carpeting,
windows, furniture, all make a difference as to what color would look
best.
Some whites can be very harsh.....its like living in a museum.


DanG October 30th 05 05:16 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
Here is an old painter's trick. Use a full color wheel sample
book. Pick out the color you want. Go 2 shades lighter in the
book. Paint. I've done this for years with customers and never
had anyone say I had the wrong color. Most people cannot envision
an entire room painted the color of a small 1" sample.

(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




wrote in message
oups.com...

I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and
chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the
right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on
the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or
dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip
number of
the neutral paints you use.




Edwin Pawlowski October 30th 05 05:23 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 


"Banty" wrote in message
For example, I chose for a bathroom vanity counter a subtly textured
neutral
formica. Because I wanted it. This was in the showroom of an outfit that
proobably does the most contractor supplies in the area. The sales person
commented that I had chosen the particular color and pattern used very
often by
new construction. For its wide appeal and good neutral.


I wonder how often it is chosen for aftermarket. Bold colors can have
limited appeal and even if I like something today, I may tire of it in a
couple of years. Coppertone or Harvest Gold appliances for example. I tend
to stay with more neutral colors and designs for long term expensive items,
but I'm not afraid to be bold and difference for easily changed things like
painting a room. Siding or countertops can cost thousands of $ to change,
while a room can be freshened up for $50.



Norminn October 30th 05 06:15 PM

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wrote:
I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.


A nice neutral? That is a challenge, since you say they are too light,
too dark, too green, etc. You might ask at a paint store for chips with
tints that contain only umber/brown. An experienced paint mixer could
probably very easily mix something within your preferences. Or, take a
chip you think you like, look at it in daylight and at home under normal
lighting. Compare it also to chips of similar darkness that are blue,
green, pink. The contrasting tints would brink out the too-whatever in
your chip. The tinting colors are very few, so if you want something
with no red, or no green, it can be made. Furnishings in the room,
along with lighting, can change color appearance by contrast, daylight
color (cloudy or sunny) or by reflection.

Banty October 30th 05 07:12 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
In article ,
says...

Good Grief......
Some of the things people ask for on here are utterly rediculous.....
Go to a frikkin paint store and LOOK at the samples, and bring some
home with you.


Good grief. Some of the responses here are utterly ignorant.

Learn to spell. And you either have never painted, or don't care much how it
looks once it's on the walls.

Don't you have a 'next thread' or 'next post' option somewhere in your
newsreader?? When you find yourself irritated or bored, use that option.

Gosh forbid someone actually come here to ask a question. Sheeesh.

Banty


chicagofan October 30th 05 07:49 PM

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wrote:

Good Grief......
Some of the things people ask for on here are utterly rediculous.....
Go to a frikkin paint store and LOOK at the samples, and bring some
home with you.



"Samples" rarely look like the actual paint results unfortunately.

I don't see anything wrong asking for specific brands and/or chip nos. from
anyone who has found neutrals they like, or seem to please others. Could
certainly save some time to have some advice before you go shopping.
bj


On 30 Oct 2005 06:31:30 -0800,
wrote:
I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.




[email protected] October 30th 05 08:22 PM

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Thanks to those who responded with the actual paints they like.

I HAVE brought home many paint chips and I HAVE also bought quarts of
paint to give them a test run on the walls. I also have taped paint
chips to the wall for a few days. But really, it's not until you
actually get the paint on the walls that you can see what you actually
have. If I don't like it I may go to another shade similar. Either on
the same chip or on one next to it. I do have a few rooms in my house
that have turned out well using this method. But, I don't want to paint
the whole house the same color.

I'm just picky about the color of my walls I guess. And I really don't
mind painting.

Thanks again.
-Felder


Buck Turgidson October 31st 05 12:33 AM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
I'm looking for some neutral shades of paint.
I was wondering if anyone can supply me with the paint brand and chip
number of some nice neutral shades.

It seems I paint a room over and over again looking for the right
color. The color on the chip looks nice, but when I get it on the wall
there is too much red or green, etc... Or it's too light or dark.

If you paint for a living, I'd sure appreciate the brand/chip number of
the neutral paints you use.



Wow. What a range of answers. I don't consider it a dumb question. I am
color-challenged, too. One color I just painted a bedroom is Home Depot
(Behr) Tuscan Beige. It is not very strong, but a nice color.

Lowes has a Waverly color called "Natural" which looks nice. It is a bit
too deep for me, but my wife likes it.

Home Depot's Parisian Taupe is a nice color, too.

The poster's advice about going a couple of shades lighter is right on.
Everything looks darker on the wall. Flat tends to look dark than eggshell,
which looks darker than satin, etc.



Robatoy October 31st 05 02:18 AM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
In article . net,
Norminn wrote:

so if you want something
with no red, or no green, it can be made.


Without red and green, you're going to have a rough time making any
earth/brown tones.
red + green = brown.

Robatoy October 31st 05 02:21 AM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
In article ,
wrote:

Anyone that is
going to keep painting over and over has far too much time on their
hands and far too much money.


A friend of mine, a professional painter, painted one client's dining
room 8 times...next time she wanted a 'touch' more blue...and he shook
her hand and said: "you're not going to make me crazy too!" and left.

Robatoy October 31st 05 02:28 AM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
In article ,
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:

Coppertone or Harvest Gold appliances for example


*rocking back-n-forth on my heels*

.....and what's wrong with those colours?

Eh?

Robatoy October 31st 05 02:33 AM

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In article WX49f.2226$sF6.777@trnddc03,
"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote:

What's your idea of "neutral"


18% grey is 'neutral'. There is NOTHING going on in terms of colour.

for more info on 'neutral'

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/pr...ols/card.shtml

[email protected] October 31st 05 10:19 PM

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wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:21:37 -0500, Robatoy
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Anyone that is
going to keep painting over and over has far too much time on their
hands and far too much money.


A friend of mine, a professional painter, painted one client's dining
room 8 times...next time she wanted a 'touch' more blue...and he shook
her hand and said: "you're not going to make me crazy too!" and left.


Yes, some people are like that. Anal Retentive is the wording.
Like the OP.


Jeepers!
Maybe I should have said, "it SEEMS like I paint a room over and over".
Just kinda like an expression ya know. You've never been disappointed
with a room color? You've never painted a room two or three times to
get it right? And it's not like it's painted the same year. I just
finished painting the kitchen. I painted it last year too. The new
color is growing on me, but it will probably be painted again next
year. I call it persistence.

-Felder


Hopkins October 31st 05 11:48 PM

Question for Painters (colors)
 
No one can meet your request -- "neutral" means something different to
each person. That's why there are so damn many choices.

Go to a paint store or 2 and talk to the guys mixing the paint. Every
store I frequent has at least one guy with enough experience to steer
you the right way.


Hopkins October 31st 05 11:50 PM

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Actually it'd be better to get a test quart and paint a poster board.



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