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Vince October 25th 05 01:53 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 

The packages says to use only in dry areas if not enclosed within a
closed globe.

Would it be unwise to use these in a lighting fixture that uses open
ended globes and located approximately 36 inches above the bathroom
sink?



dean October 25th 05 02:55 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
This is a compact fluorescent or a tube?
If its the compact type, you can get various types, some of which are
sealed into a regular bulb-shaped plastic covering.


m Ransley October 25th 05 03:01 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
no , use it..


dean October 25th 05 05:27 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
Yeah go ahead and be dumb. Got home insurance?


Ken October 25th 05 06:07 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 

Vince wrote:
The packages says to use only in dry areas if not enclosed within a
closed globe.

Would it be unwise to use these in a lighting fixture that uses open
ended globes and located approximately 36 inches above the bathroom
sink?


36" above a bathroom sink is considered a "dry" location. It is
perfectly acceptable to use a compact fluorescent there.

Ken


Tim Killian October 25th 05 06:37 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
Vince wrote:
The packages says to use only in dry areas if not enclosed within a
closed globe.

Would it be unwise to use these in a lighting fixture that uses open
ended globes and located approximately 36 inches above the bathroom
sink?




These will work fine, but be aware that most of the low cost CFL bulbs
require 1-3 minutes to reach full brightness. People who go in the dark
bathroom and flip on the switch will be greeted with a rather dim light
until they warm up. That's sometimes good early in the morning, but it
can be annoying in the evening when entering from a fully lit room.

[email protected] October 25th 05 06:43 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
Plus the ones that I've tried don't put out anywhere near the
brightness equivalency that they claim. I also notice that they are
dimmer at lower temps. I used some in my gargae and when it's cold
they are noticeably dimmer. All in all, I'm not very impressed with
these and would not use them in a bathroom or most living areas.
They're best suited to garages, basements, etc, IMO.


dean October 25th 05 07:01 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
Vince should be able to tell. If it gets a load of condensation there
from the shower then it would be better to use a different bulb.


Joseph Meehan October 25th 05 07:57 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
wrote:
Plus the ones that I've tried don't put out anywhere near the
brightness equivalency that they claim. I also notice that they are
dimmer at lower temps. I used some in my gargae and when it's cold
they are noticeably dimmer. All in all, I'm not very impressed with
these and would not use them in a bathroom or most living areas.
They're best suited to garages, basements, etc, IMO.


The old ones I have seen fit that description, but the current ones seem
much better.

I mix them 50% with incandescent lamps so I get a good color and fast
startup with more total light after they warm up with less power.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



PipeDown October 25th 05 08:14 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
The warning is to discourage use outdoors without a proper fixture. There
shouldn't be too much splash 3 feet up a wall (unless you have kids) but
even a few drops won't hurt it. Humidity shouldn't effect it too much.

I use these (or similar) in almost every fixture (except a few where I
cannot tolerate warmup time) and the imperfections are not a problem when I
think of how much money they save me. Warm up time is more on the order of
30 seconds for the really cheap (power company sponsered) bulbs I buy ($1
each)


"Vince" wrote in message
...

The packages says to use only in dry areas if not enclosed within a
closed globe.

Would it be unwise to use these in a lighting fixture that uses open
ended globes and located approximately 36 inches above the bathroom
sink?





Mark October 25th 05 09:16 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
but if you are going to spend the money on a CF I'd use it in a
location that gets more use..

if you use it in the bath, it won't pay for itself for a long time....

unless you spend lots of time in there ;-)

I use them on the outside lights that are on all night.

I don't think they are cost effective for the lightly used locatins.

Mark


Bob October 25th 05 09:41 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 

"Mark" wrote in message ups.com...
but if you are going to spend the money on a CF I'd use it in a
location that gets more use..

if you use it in the bath, it won't pay for itself for a long time....

unless you spend lots of time in there ;-)

I use them on the outside lights that are on all night.

I don't think they are cost effective for the lightly used locatins.


The last ones I bought were $2 apiece. I've seen lower wattage CF's for $.99. Since they last several time as long as
regular bulbs, I'd say they are very cost effective.

Bob



dean October 25th 05 09:45 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
I've got a bunch of red LED exit sign bulbs around my house, 1W each
and give out quite a lot of light, good enough for getting around in
the night time. They were on special offer at Lowes:)


Vince October 25th 05 09:55 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 

The marking on the base of these bulbs says the following:

"CAUTION: Risk of electric shock. Use in dry location only. Not to be
used with dimmer or in totlly enclosed fixtures. UL Listed. "


On 25 Oct 2005 06:55:37 -0700, "dean" wrote:

This is a compact fluorescent or a tube?
If its the compact type, you can get various types, some of which are
sealed into a regular bulb-shaped plastic covering.



Vince October 25th 05 10:11 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 


These "CFLs" are the spiral type, not tubed, and light up quickly
enough, as far as I am concerned. The same bulb in my kitchen
overhead (two), however, seem to take a noticeable bit longer to
charge fully. They are behind an open diffuser shield, and I might go
back to incandescent in this case.

The CFLs' marking says:
"Conserv-Energy, BPCE13T, 13W, 120VAC, 60 Hz, 200mA. "

The bathroom lightinf fixture consist of four open globe sockets, each
rated at a maximum of 60 W. With four incandescent 60 W Soft Light
GEs, I could feel the heat and the amount of light was more than what
is needed, perhaps excessive for this (relatively small bathroom)
application.

With these CFLs, I do not feel the heat, and the amount of
illumination is satisfactory. The CFLs are rated as replacements for
60 W incandescent bulbs.

I am happy with these CFLs, as long as there is no hazzard.

Ive seen the "torpedoe" shaped CFLs at HD; I did not like their
appearance, so my wife also surely wouldn't.


On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:37:14 -0600, Tim Killian
wrote:

Vince wrote:
The packages says to use only in dry areas if not enclosed within a
closed globe.

Would it be unwise to use these in a lighting fixture that uses open
ended globes and located approximately 36 inches above the bathroom
sink?




These will work fine, but be aware that most of the low cost CFL bulbs
require 1-3 minutes to reach full brightness. People who go in the dark
bathroom and flip on the switch will be greeted with a rather dim light
until they warm up. That's sometimes good early in the morning, but it
can be annoying in the evening when entering from a fully lit room.



Vince October 25th 05 10:14 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 

I am trying these CFLs because the four 60 W incandescents give off
too much heat. I've lost the packaging that shows the Lumens, but in
this application the amount of illumination is adequate.




On 25 Oct 2005 10:43:54 -0700, wrote:

Plus the ones that I've tried don't put out anywhere near the
brightness equivalency that they claim. I also notice that they are
dimmer at lower temps. I used some in my gargae and when it's cold
they are noticeably dimmer. All in all, I'm not very impressed with
these and would not use them in a bathroom or most living areas.
They're best suited to garages, basements, etc, IMO.



Vince October 25th 05 10:23 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 

I bought two packages of these CFLs at COSTCO at least 24 months ago.
Now down to the last 3. IIRC, each package included (I think) sixteen
bulbs, and the cost was less than $4.us.



On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:57:55 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
wrote:

wrote:
Plus the ones that I've tried don't put out anywhere near the
brightness equivalency that they claim. I also notice that they are
dimmer at lower temps. I used some in my gargae and when it's cold
they are noticeably dimmer. All in all, I'm not very impressed with
these and would not use them in a bathroom or most living areas.
They're best suited to garages, basements, etc, IMO.


The old ones I have seen fit that description, but the current ones seem
much better.

I mix them 50% with incandescent lamps so I get a good color and fast
startup with more total light after they warm up with less power.



Charles Spitzer October 25th 05 10:35 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
my local electric company is underwriting cfls in my area, as part of a
national effort by energy star. if you go to certain places, you can get
cfls at a high discount. try asking your local power company if they're
participating.

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?...cal.showPledge

regards,
charlie
http://glassartists.org/chaniarts

"Vince" wrote in message
...

I bought two packages of these CFLs at COSTCO at least 24 months ago.
Now down to the last 3. IIRC, each package included (I think) sixteen
bulbs, and the cost was less than $4.us.



On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:57:55 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
wrote:

wrote:
Plus the ones that I've tried don't put out anywhere near the
brightness equivalency that they claim. I also notice that they are
dimmer at lower temps. I used some in my gargae and when it's cold
they are noticeably dimmer. All in all, I'm not very impressed with
these and would not use them in a bathroom or most living areas.
They're best suited to garages, basements, etc, IMO.


The old ones I have seen fit that description, but the current ones
seem
much better.

I mix them 50% with incandescent lamps so I get a good color and fast
startup with more total light after they warm up with less power.





Gideon October 27th 05 12:09 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
We have a three-socket fixture in each bathroom and we install one
traditional incandescent bulb plus two compact fluorescent bulbs in
each room. We get instant full power from the incandescent bulb
and energy savings from the two CFs in each fixture. This works
fine for us and this is perfectly safe.



dean October 27th 05 02:32 PM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
All bathrooms in my house have a dimmer switch. I have being blinded at
night by those full-power bulbs.


Shaun Eli October 29th 05 12:42 AM

Energy Saving flourecent in Bathroom
 
I have six lighting fixtures in my kitchen. Five were CF and the
sixth, over the sink, was incandescent, I think 90 watts. I noticed in
the summertime that I could actually feel the heat from the light over
the sink, so I switched it with one of the others at the end of the
kitchen where I don't stand.

There's no reason to keep the sixth incandescent, either-- I probably
should swap it out and save a few watts.



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