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mad NATer October 20th 05 06:54 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??



SQLit October 20th 05 08:37 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 

"mad NATer" wrote in message
...
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He

has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The

pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but

I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have

different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which

could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a

gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??


Call the realtor/old owners and ask for the keys or manufacture.

With out a direction your looking at drilling out all of the locks.






mad NATer October 20th 05 08:48 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 
"SQLit" wrote in message
...

"mad NATer" wrote in message
...
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He

has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The

pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine
a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but

I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have

different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with
a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which

could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a

gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??


Call the realtor/old owners and ask for the keys or manufacture.

With out a direction your looking at drilling out all of the locks.


Their realtor couldn't locate the key and the prior owners aren't to be
found. The house was purchased from the bank as a foreclosure. There must
be a wrench/key which will fit this semi-circular bolt head. Any further
ideas appreciated.



The_Emporium October 20th 05 09:22 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 

How big are these pins? It may be easier to center punch them, and drill a
small hole in the center of them, and then try to use some screw
extracters... Obviously depends on the size of the head.

"mad NATer" wrote in message
...
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He

has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The

pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but

I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have

different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which

could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a

gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??





Goedjn October 20th 05 09:58 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 

I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??



Get a metal rod that's exactly the same diameter as the screw-head,
and a few inches long. Grind the end, leaving a nub that just fits
the flat-spot on the screw-head. Find a metal tube that this
rod JUST fits inside, which will therefore fit over the screwhead.
Glue, or screw the rod inside the tube, flush with the end, or
just bend the entire assembly to keep them from twisting relative
to each other.



Bob October 22nd 05 02:52 AM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 

"mad NATer" wrote in message ...
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??


Have you tried talking to local locksmiths?

Bob



Colbyt October 22nd 05 03:20 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 


"mad NATer" wrote in message

...
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He

has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The

pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine

a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help

but I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have

different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with

a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which

could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a

gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??



Every locksmith has these. Sometimes found at the Borg stores.




mad NATer October 23rd 05 09:16 PM

Window security pin - need key/wrench
 
"Bob" wrote in message
...

"mad NATer" wrote in message
...
I've got a friend who bought a house with window lock pins installed. He
has
no key or wrench to remove the pins so they can open the windows. The
pins
(or screws) have a round head except for one side which is flat. Imagine
a
hex-head bolt with only 1 flat side instead of 6. I'm trying to help but
I
don't know where to get the key. Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, all have
different
versions of these security pins - none of which match the type described
above. Ace has a hex head screw/pin. Lowes and Home Depot have pins with
a
key you use to pry the pin out. Where would one get a key/wrench which
could
handle this semi-circular head? The pin/screws are recessed and can't be
reached with a regular pair of pliers. Ideally a key would work (like a
gas
starter key) but it has to match the contour.
Any ideas??


Have you tried talking to local locksmiths?

Bob


It's not a tumbler key so I didn't think to suggest a locksmith. Anway we
solved the issue. Using a pair of needle nosed pliers we were able to get
enough of a grip on the semi-circular head to unscrew it. We replaced all
of these locking screws with screws which had regular hex heads and a
matching hex key. Thanks anyway.




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