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[email protected] October 3rd 05 04:45 PM

fence issue
 
When it was very windy over the last weekend, my backyard fence was
swaying quite vigorouly. to the extent that if I didn't secure it, it
would've bent or broken. I guess one of the posts wasn't secure enough
inside the ground. so we tied that post to the one opposite to it and
it stood the wind for that day.

I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section, dig
the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way? Or is there an alternate solution that works just
as well without removing the section of the fence?

I don't have much help or tools to do this. Could you offer any
suggestions? Thanks.


Banty October 3rd 05 05:04 PM

In article .com,
says...

When it was very windy over the last weekend, my backyard fence was
swaying quite vigorouly. to the extent that if I didn't secure it, it
would've bent or broken. I guess one of the posts wasn't secure enough
inside the ground. so we tied that post to the one opposite to it and
it stood the wind for that day.

I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section, dig
the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way? Or is there an alternate solution that works just
as well without removing the section of the fence?

I don't have much help or tools to do this. Could you offer any
suggestions? Thanks.


What - no neighbors to fight with over this fence?!

Where will I get my day's amusement, then??

You dissapoint me...

Banty


John H. Holliday October 3rd 05 05:10 PM

wrote in message
oups.com...
When it was very windy over the last weekend, my backyard fence was
swaying quite vigorouly. to the extent that if I didn't secure it, it
would've bent or broken. I guess one of the posts wasn't secure enough
inside the ground. so we tied that post to the one opposite to it and
it stood the wind for that day.

I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section, dig
the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way? Or is there an alternate solution that works just
as well without removing the section of the fence?

I don't have much help or tools to do this. Could you offer any
suggestions? Thanks.


What kind of fence-- and how high is it?



Tom October 3rd 05 05:22 PM

wrote:
I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section, dig
the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way?


you don't need to remove the bad post or any section of the fence

buy from your local home depot a bag of quickcrete and 2 new posts
remove a single board from both sides of the bad post and dig a hole there for the new
post, fill with concrete and attach to fence


Rich256 October 3rd 05 05:27 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
When it was very windy over the last weekend, my backyard fence was
swaying quite vigorouly. to the extent that if I didn't secure it, it
would've bent or broken. I guess one of the posts wasn't secure enough
inside the ground. so we tied that post to the one opposite to it and
it stood the wind for that day.

I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section, dig
the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way? Or is there an alternate solution that works just
as well without removing the section of the fence?

I don't have much help or tools to do this. Could you offer any
suggestions? Thanks.


If that is a wooden post I it is probably rotted off. And I expect it was
set in concrete. The tough job is getting the old concrete out. I prefer
to tamp the dirt in around the post and not use concrete. That is a little
more work when installing but a lot easier when you have to remove them
again.

If it is a metal post you probably will have to set it in concrete.



[email protected] October 3rd 05 05:33 PM



If that is a wooden post I it is probably rotted off. And I expect it was
set in concrete. The tough job is getting the old concrete out. I prefer
to tamp the dirt in around the post and not use concrete. That is a little
more work when installing but a lot easier when you have to remove them
again.

If it is a metal post you probably will have to set it in concrete.


OP here. Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

It's a 6 ft fence. Standard fence that builders put. The posts are
wooden. Not metal. I don't think it's rotten because it's about 4 years
old and it looks in good shape. My backyard has a retaining wall made
of railroad ties that's supporting the dirt. So I figure the post just
became loose or something.

Thanks.


Joseph Meehan October 3rd 05 06:27 PM

wrote:
When it was very windy over the last weekend, my backyard fence was
swaying quite vigorouly. to the extent that if I didn't secure it, it
would've bent or broken. I guess one of the posts wasn't secure enough
inside the ground. so we tied that post to the one opposite to it and
it stood the wind for that day.

I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section,
dig the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way? Or is there an alternate solution that works just
as well without removing the section of the fence?

I don't have much help or tools to do this. Could you offer any
suggestions? Thanks.


To do it right, you should remove that post and the two sections of
fence on either side. Take a look at the post and see what is going on.
30% of the post should be under ground. If not you need a longer fence and
deeper hole. Some soils may require more. You can also then check the
condition of the post.

Bad news is whatever is wrong with that one post is likely to be found
shortly with the other posts.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



Rich256 October 3rd 05 06:40 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...


If that is a wooden post I it is probably rotted off. And I expect it

was
set in concrete. The tough job is getting the old concrete out. I

prefer
to tamp the dirt in around the post and not use concrete. That is a

little
more work when installing but a lot easier when you have to remove them
again.

If it is a metal post you probably will have to set it in concrete.


OP here. Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

It's a 6 ft fence. Standard fence that builders put. The posts are
wooden. Not metal. I don't think it's rotten because it's about 4 years
old and it looks in good shape. My backyard has a retaining wall made
of railroad ties that's supporting the dirt. So I figure the post just
became loose or something.

Thanks.



I still think the post is broken off If it was set in concrete it would
not be loose and it usually rots there. The fence and post may look like
new but the concrete holds the moisture causing it to rot faster. You wont
know until you do a little digging. I had something similar just a week
ago. Turns out two posts were rotted off. Fortunately my soil is very
sandy and easy to dig but those chucks of concrete were a pain to get out.
Fence companies putting in new fences just cut the old post off and dig a
new hole next to it.

I like to use a preservative such as creosote on the area of the post that
will be buried.



nospambob October 3rd 05 07:36 PM

I'd put about 4" of "pea gravel" from the big box store in the bottom
of the hole, put the post in and level then fill the hole with more
pea gravel. Allows drainage at the bottom of the post as well as
around the post.

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:27:59 GMT, "Rich256" wrote:

If that is a wooden post I it is probably rotted off. And I expect it was
set in concrete. The tough job is getting the old concrete out. I prefer
to tamp the dirt in around the post and not use concrete. That is a little
more work when installing but a lot easier when you have to remove them
again.


Rich256 October 3rd 05 09:32 PM

That is a great idea. I am on sand so really don't need to worry much about
drainage.


"nospambob" wrote in message
...
I'd put about 4" of "pea gravel" from the big box store in the bottom
of the hole, put the post in and level then fill the hole with more
pea gravel. Allows drainage at the bottom of the post as well as
around the post.

On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:27:59 GMT, "Rich256" wrote:

If that is a wooden post I it is probably rotted off. And I expect it

was
set in concrete. The tough job is getting the old concrete out. I

prefer
to tamp the dirt in around the post and not use concrete. That is a

little
more work when installing but a lot easier when you have to remove them
again.




J.A. Michel October 3rd 05 10:23 PM

I put up a fence awhile back. It was going to be subject to very strong
North winds, so I built accordingly. I potted the posts 4ft deep, and used
the "board on board" fence design. Board on board lets the wind pass
through the fence and reduces wind loading. You might want to go with
longer posts and install them deeper. I've seen fences easily blown over
with posts that were 2 feet deep.



--
Joe Michel
NAR 82797 L2
http://home.alltel.net/jm44316
wrote in message
oups.com...
When it was very windy over the last weekend, my backyard fence was
swaying quite vigorouly. to the extent that if I didn't secure it, it
would've bent or broken. I guess one of the posts wasn't secure enough
inside the ground. so we tied that post to the one opposite to it and
it stood the wind for that day.

I need a long term solution for this. Should I remove that section, dig
the hole deeper for the post, possibly put some concrete in it and
secure it that way? Or is there an alternate solution that works just
as well without removing the section of the fence?

I don't have much help or tools to do this. Could you offer any
suggestions? Thanks.





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