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FACE September 6th 05 01:09 PM

Getting dried latex paint out of housebrush bristles?
 
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE

Robert Allison September 6th 05 02:18 PM

FACE wrote:

Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


Try a wire brush.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

[email protected] September 6th 05 02:21 PM


FACE wrote:
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


Greetings,

You can get it off with one of a dozen solvents (not water) but if
paint has dried on your brush it is best to toss it.

They still make high quality brushes. The "new ones" aren't lower
quality-- they are all qualities at all different prices. You just
need to go purchase one to your liking. Maybe the store you went to
didn't have the brush you wanted and you gave up but I guarantee you it
is available.

Hope this helps,
William


Sacramento Dave September 6th 05 02:31 PM


"FACE" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles

of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to

dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month.

I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday

with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


Soak in Lacquer thinner overnight ( they do sell a brush cleaner) then comb
with a wire brush. After all that work their never the same they just plain
wear out that's why I have crapy brushes and good brushes. If I am painting
for along period I will stop and clean my brush a couple times during
painting. When I'm done I always comb the brushes. They just don't last
forever.



Norminn September 6th 05 03:28 PM



FACE wrote:
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


You may get some of the gunk out with dish washing detergent and hot
water (soak), then try to spread a few bristles at a time and scrape
with your fingernail (works for me :o). To keep a brush overnight, wrap
in foil and put in the freezer.


G Henslee September 6th 05 04:21 PM

FACE wrote:
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


For this condition, I've successfully used white vinegar to soak brushes
overnight before.

Amun September 6th 05 04:26 PM


"FACE" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles

of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to

dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month.

I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday

with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE



You did say synthetic bristles right ?

Any solvent that will soften the paint will turn the whole brush to goo.

This calls for, last shot, drastic action as there is no other choice, and
nothing to lose.



Make sure it's perfectly dry.

Lay the brush on a concrete floor, and wolllop the bristles repeatedly with
a steel hammer.

(for more harmless fun, pretend it's that idiot neighbor down the street who
pokes their nose into everyone's business, or your boss, or ex-wife/husband)
LOL

Turn the brush over and do it some more.

Keep going and soon the paint will turn to powder.

Wash it out in soapy water, and dry.

repeat as many times as needed.

The brush will never be "like new" but I've salvaged countless brushes I've
gotten back filled with dry paint after lending them to people this way.

(and guess which ones are the only ones I now loan out)

AMUN



Amun September 6th 05 04:57 PM

Quick addendum :

For natural bristles, you can soak it in some oil for a few days and the
latex paint should peel right off

AMUN


"Amun" wrote in message
.. .

"FACE" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles

of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to

dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past

month.
I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed

into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the

sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know

that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to

have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday

with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE



You did say synthetic bristles right ?

Any solvent that will soften the paint will turn the whole brush to goo.

This calls for, last shot, drastic action as there is no other choice, and
nothing to lose.



Make sure it's perfectly dry.

Lay the brush on a concrete floor, and wolllop the bristles repeatedly

with
a steel hammer.

(for more harmless fun, pretend it's that idiot neighbor down the street

who
pokes their nose into everyone's business, or your boss, or

ex-wife/husband)
LOL

Turn the brush over and do it some more.

Keep going and soon the paint will turn to powder.

Wash it out in soapy water, and dry.

repeat as many times as needed.

The brush will never be "like new" but I've salvaged countless brushes

I've
gotten back filled with dry paint after lending them to people this way.

(and guess which ones are the only ones I now loan out)

AMUN





Duane Bozarth September 6th 05 05:33 PM

Amun wrote:
....

You did say synthetic bristles right ?

Any solvent that will soften the paint will turn the whole brush to goo.

....

Not true...

There are any number of "brush restorer" products that will work well.

I've found a couple of the newer citric-based to work quite well, in
fact. Takes a couple of days sitting, but if the brush is a real
quality brush, well worth the time and definitely not the abuse.

Butzmark September 6th 05 05:40 PM

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:09:25 -0400, FACE
wrote:

Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


Wrapping and refrigerating is OK for a ****ty brush, but if you use
good ones (and they do work allot better), buy a brush spinner and
clean them often. On a hot day I clean em every two or three hours.
For latex use "Fantastic" or some other super cleaner with water. A
brush comb is a good idea.

patrick mitchel September 6th 05 05:44 PM


Duane Bozarth wrote in message
...

I've found a couple of the newer citric-based to work quite well, in
fact. Takes a couple of days sitting, but if the brush is a real
quality brush, well worth the time and definitely not the abuse.

Second the citrus solvent. I used the zep citrus degreaser from home depot
and big orange citrus degreaser from smart and final (socal) - they both
work on the housepaint (latex and enamel) when left in overnight or for some
time in sunluight (to get the elevated temps)They also take the print (and
resins)right off circular saw blades. Pat



FACE September 6th 05 06:16 PM

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:09:25 -0400, in alt.home.repair FACE
wrote:

Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?

I hate to say it is my favorite brush and i have allowed house paint to dry
into the deep bristles so it is no longer supple.

I have been painting on the house about an hour a day for the past month. I
have been keeping the brush after use in plastic bags and then closed into
an empty paint can with a few drops of water in the bottom out of the sun
but I have ended up with drying in the deep bristles anyway. I know that
the things are not that expensive but the newer ones do not appear to have
the bristle "bulk" of this one, so saving it actually is my aim here.

I put it through the wash cycle of the washing machine twice yesterday with
detergent but that did not seem to work either.

Thanks

FACE


A big thanks to all that have replied. All sound like good ideas.

The in-the-freezer-overnight will become a new thing of mine. Hopefully the
Miz will accept that along with the caulk and spackling knives in the
drainer. :-) (I am still convinced that the best caulk smoother in a corner
joint is my fingertip.)

The solvents are also attractive. I had considered gasoline overnight but
that may turn the synthetic bristles to goo as someone said. However, white
vinegar sounds pretty benign.

Besides giving me a good laugh, beating the bristles with a hammer and
powdering the dry paint then combing it out also sounds reasonable.

I just bought a new wire brush since one I have had for years I have worn
out in the previous 5 weeks. Combing the body of the bristles sounds good
too, and maybe the fact that I did wear out the other wire brush (the first
seven rows of the sixteen rows of bristles are now gone) on flaking and
otherwise 'bad areas' on the old paint and boards should tell me something
-- like painting a coupla thousand square feet of rough cedar siding just
may be nearing the limit on this brush anyway. I have used it for the porch
and basically touch up jobs for about 5 years but never for this much -- i
am repainting the entire house and have double-coated some areas that are in
intense sun.

Seems I found the right newsgroup to ask this, I am looking at some
"situations" in this endeavor that I have not tackled before and may be back
for advice. G

Question to Pat: Do you use the Big Orange citrus cleaner full strength or
in a dilution? I am also using Zep housewash.


All in all, thanks to all,

FACE

Duane Bozarth September 6th 05 06:50 PM

FACE wrote:
....

A big thanks to all that have replied. All sound like good ideas.


I don't know about beating on it w/ a hammer... :(

The in-the-freezer-overnight will become a new thing of mine. ..


Just clean the damn brush when you've finished using it and get avoid of
the problem...doesn't take 30 minutes and is far better for the
brush. The one thing whoever talked about solvents had correct is that
removing dried paint from a brush is never absolutely complete and the
brush will not be as good as it was, ever. How much you lose depends on
how bad you let it get and how good a brush it was originally.

The solvents are also attractive. I had considered gasoline overnight but
that may turn the synthetic bristles to goo as someone said. However, white
vinegar sounds pretty benign.

Besides giving me a good laugh, beating the bristles with a hammer and
powdering the dry paint then combing it out also sounds reasonable.


Not if you want a decent brush to work with when you're done. You'll
break darn near every bristle and weaken those you don't. You'll be
picking bristles out of the paint continuously.

I just bought a new wire brush ...


A bristle brush is not a common wire brush.
....

Question to Pat: Do you use the Big Orange citrus cleaner full strength or
in a dilution? I am also using Zep housewash.


Not Pat, but you use it according the instructions on the container.
Don't know the particular brand and sometimes the same brands are sold
in both concentrate or ready-to-use containers.

Amun September 6th 05 06:53 PM


"patrick mitchel" wrote in message
...

Duane Bozarth wrote in message
...

I've found a couple of the newer citric-based to work quite well, in
fact. Takes a couple of days sitting, but if the brush is a real
quality brush, well worth the time and definitely not the abuse.

Second the citrus solvent. I used the zep citrus degreaser from home

depot
and big orange citrus degreaser from smart and final (socal) - they both
work on the housepaint (latex and enamel) when left in overnight or for

some
time in sunluight (to get the elevated temps)They also take the print (and
resins)right off circular saw blades. Pat



All well and good ,and some may want to try it.

But the OP did say "synthetic" paint brush.

All of those "citrus" cleaners are still oil based and may be great on a
real bristle brush. (that water based products might damage)
But watch which plastics you try to clean. ;)
Check the label and I'll bet in all the small print it tells you to be
careful with some plastics

You missed the part where I stressed the hammer method was

"last shot, drastic action as there is no other choice, and
nothing to lose."

Perhaps I could have been clearer and said
"after nothing else works, just before you are ready to toss the brush, but
you STILL want to try saving it."


Better ?


AMUN



Duane Bozarth September 6th 05 07:12 PM

Amun wrote:

....
All of those "citrus" cleaners are still oil based and may be great on a
real bristle brush. (that water based products might damage)


Water-based products won't "damage" any brush I've ever seen made for
painting. Some might not flow as well or hold the optimum amount of
paint but that's going overboard w/ caution, imo.

....

You missed the part where I stressed the hammer method was

"last shot, drastic action as there is no other choice, and
nothing to lose."


But time...might as well just pitch it and save the trouble.

Perhaps I could have been clearer and said
"after nothing else works, just before you are ready to toss the brush, but
you STILL want to try saving it."

Better ?


Not really imo.

The brush restorer technique is far preferable both in what it will do
to the brush and the probability of success. Quite far gone brushes can
be pretty frequently brought back to at least usability that way. I'd
think the probability of having something useful for other than a
parts-washing grease brush would be essentially zero after beating on it
w/ a hammer extensively.

G Henslee September 6th 05 07:35 PM

FACE wrote:


However, white
vinegar sounds pretty benign.


You'll be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.

--
WARNING:

Do NOT under any circumstances take advice from an idiot named AMUN.

AMUN is a clueless moron regarding tile, electrical and various other
construction issues. As things go AMUN will (thankfully) dissapear
as his kind usually does when confronted with their bad advice by
those who are knowledgeable in their respective fields.

nospambob September 6th 05 08:02 PM

Prior to dipping a brush into finish precondition it by dipping the
bristles into the proper solvent including the ferrule. Remove excess
solvent and start finishing. Stops finish from drying near the
ferrule making bristles stiff and aids cleaning after brushing.

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:09:25 -0400, FACE
wrote:

Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?


Amun September 6th 05 08:21 PM


"G Henslee" wrote in message
...
FACE wrote:


However, white
vinegar sounds pretty benign.


You'll be pleasantly surprised at the outcome.



Silly git.

The OP wants to clean a BRUSH

Not a "BUSH".

Keep your vinegar & water/feminine hygiene products to yourself.

g

AMUN



Amun September 6th 05 08:51 PM


"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
...
Amun wrote:

...
All of those "citrus" cleaners are still oil based and may be great on

a
real bristle brush. (that water based products might damage)


Water-based products won't "damage" any brush I've ever seen made for
painting. Some might not flow as well or hold the optimum amount of
paint but that's going overboard w/ caution, imo.


Beg to differ and most professional painters and furniture refinishers who
know their stuff will verify this.

Brush websites should have it too.

If you know a real pro who uses paint brushes daily, go ask the loan of a
natural bristle brush to put on that next coat of latex in your livingroom.
And count the number of times they use "naughty words"


No natural bristle brush should be used for any water based finishes, or
even cleaned with water.
Oil based paints stains, urethanes only.

You can, but the bristles will split, fray and go funny.
After a few times in water, you just toss it, because you will never get a
decent finish with it.

Few know this, and most of the jerks at the big box stores won't often know
the reason they sell both types either.

Synthetic bristles are not just more popular just because they are often
cheaper, but as most people use latex/water based paints, they simply work
better.

And there are some synthetic bristles that are also for oil based products,
but these are usually as pricy as the natural ones.

If you just want to slap some paint on, and don't really care, use what you
want, but sometimes there are reasons that some paint brushes cost 49 cents
and some cost $50.00+.



AMUN



Duane Bozarth September 6th 05 09:27 PM

Amun wrote:

"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message
...
Amun wrote:

...
All of those "citrus" cleaners are still oil based and may be great on

a
real bristle brush. (that water based products might damage)


Water-based products won't "damage" any brush I've ever seen made for
painting. Some might not flow as well or hold the optimum amount of
paint but that's going overboard w/ caution, imo.


Beg to differ and most professional painters and furniture refinishers who
know their stuff will verify this.

....

There's a difference (as I noted) between using a brush for what it
isn't designed for and "damaging" the brush simply by getting it wet. I
don't believe there's any indication that simply water on a natural
bristle brush, for example, well actually damage the brush once it's
dried again.

A pamphlet entitled "Care and Feeding" came w/ a brush includes the
following advice--

"A natural bristle brush includes badger, hog (or china) bristle, sable,
squirrel, goat, ox hair and others.

These natural bristle brushes are hand-set and some of the hairs will be
of different lengths. Consequently you may find the brush will shed
some the first few times you will use it.

To minimize this, you should:

1.Wash the brush with a mild dish soap in warm water ..."

FACE September 7th 05 12:08 PM

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:16:23 -0400, in alt.home.repair FACE
wrote:

Seems I found the right newsgroup to ask this, I am looking at some
"situations" in this endeavor that I have not tackled before and may be back
for advice. G

Question to Pat: Do you use the Big Orange citrus cleaner full strength or
in a dilution? I am also using Zep housewash.


All in all, thanks to all,

FACE


After the last two days of cleaning the brush was supple enough to use again
so I did my 100 square feet of housepainting on the second story (split
level, 3 two story sides)from the extension ladder yesterday afternoon.

Sure, 30 years ago i would have done 1000 square feet or so in a day but
this is not 30 years ago. :-)

That I have only been doing an average of 100 square feet a day is the
reason i have not been washing the brush out everyday but looking for ways
to keep it from day to day and washing it maybe once a week...or two.
And that is how I ended up with dried paint in the bristles. I got enough
out in the past two days, including the fingernail bit someone suggested
to go with it yesterday.

The brush, complete with it's 6 oz of paint, overnighted, well wrapped, in
the freezer. I put it in just after I had finished my painting yesterday
afternoon.

Another day, another 100 square feet, maybe 200!, this afternoon. Weather
is beautiful for this I started my other soon-to-be-sold house in late june
and just the front split-level face over there lasted through July. All but
the face of that house is well shaded and the rest does not need paint nor
is the new paint on the face, which bakes in the sun daily, obviously
different from the rest.

Same situation over here except since this house has not been fully painted
in 11 years other than area touch-up and front trim and painting the chimney
chase twice and I am doing the whole thing.

FACE



George E. Cawthon September 7th 05 11:34 PM

FACE wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 13:16:23 -0400, in alt.home.repair FACE
wrote:


Seems I found the right newsgroup to ask this, I am looking at some
"situations" in this endeavor that I have not tackled before and may be back
for advice. G

Question to Pat: Do you use the Big Orange citrus cleaner full strength or
in a dilution? I am also using Zep housewash.


All in all, thanks to all,

FACE



After the last two days of cleaning the brush was supple enough to use again
so I did my 100 square feet of housepainting on the second story (split
level, 3 two story sides)from the extension ladder yesterday afternoon.

Sure, 30 years ago i would have done 1000 square feet or so in a day but
this is not 30 years ago. :-)

That I have only been doing an average of 100 square feet a day is the
reason i have not been washing the brush out everyday but looking for ways
to keep it from day to day and washing it maybe once a week...or two.
And that is how I ended up with dried paint in the bristles. I got enough
out in the past two days, including the fingernail bit someone suggested
to go with it yesterday.

The brush, complete with it's 6 oz of paint, overnighted, well wrapped, in
the freezer. I put it in just after I had finished my painting yesterday
afternoon.

Another day, another 100 square feet, maybe 200!, this afternoon. Weather
is beautiful for this I started my other soon-to-be-sold house in late june
and just the front split-level face over there lasted through July. All but
the face of that house is well shaded and the rest does not need paint nor
is the new paint on the face, which bakes in the sun daily, obviously
different from the rest.

Same situation over here except since this house has not been fully painted
in 11 years other than area touch-up and front trim and painting the chimney
chase twice and I am doing the whole thing.

FACE


Whooee, and I though I was slow! 100 sq ft is less
than 13 feet linear on an 8 foot wall. That
shouldn't be an all day job. I can do a side of a
house, about 500 sq ft, in a day so that it takes
me about 4 days. Then another 2 days for trim.
Other friends claim they can paint their house in
2 days, maybe one more for trim. So I though I was
about the slowest painter around.

I think most of your problem is how slow your are
and how long the paint brush is out in the air.
If you are going that slow, you need to be dipping
that brush in water at least every 1/2 hour.
Waste a little paint but you will paint faster and
better.

FACE September 8th 05 03:01 AM

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:34:06 GMT, in alt.home.repair "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

Whooee, and I though I was slow! 100 sq ft is less
than 13 feet linear on an 8 foot wall.



Yep. That's about right. On each patch, i feather it out on the edges and
the next day feather it in so it doesn't look like a start/stop job. :-)

That
shouldn't be an all day job.


Who said I was out there all day? :-) Most days are about 1 hour or a
little less in actually painting that 100 sq feet from an extension ladder.
Some days I get really squirrelly and spend over 2 hours painting! If I am
am doing a lower portion from the ground, i do more square footage and paint
for a longer time, but i feel sure that is about the same with a lot of
people.

I can do a side of a
house, about 500 sq ft, in a day so that it takes
me about 4 days. Then another 2 days for trim.
Other friends claim they can paint their house in
2 days, maybe one more for trim. So I though I was
about the slowest painter around.


I think the last time i had this house professionally painted it took 4 days
-- last day was a partial for the trim. That's when I was paying
over a grand for someone else to do it though. He wore out a $30
horsehair brush on this job.

I think most of your problem is how slow your are
and how long the paint brush is out in the air.
If you are going that slow, you need to be dipping
that brush in water at least every 1/2 hour.
Waste a little paint but you will paint faster and
better.


I sure do feel bad about doing it so slow. ;-) The other side of the coin
is that i am doing it at all. I will keep your suggestion in mind about
dipping the brush.

FACE

George E. Cawthon September 8th 05 04:20 AM

FACE wrote:
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:34:06 GMT, in alt.home.repair "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:


Whooee, and I though I was slow! 100 sq ft is less
than 13 feet linear on an 8 foot wall.




Yep. That's about right. On each patch, i feather it out on the edges and
the next day feather it in so it doesn't look like a start/stop job. :-)


That
shouldn't be an all day job.



Who said I was out there all day? :-) Most days are about 1 hour or a
little less in actually painting that 100 sq feet from an extension ladder.
Some days I get really squirrelly and spend over 2 hours painting! If I am
am doing a lower portion from the ground, i do more square footage and paint
for a longer time, but i feel sure that is about the same with a lot of
people.


I can do a side of a
house, about 500 sq ft, in a day so that it takes
me about 4 days. Then another 2 days for trim.
Other friends claim they can paint their house in
2 days, maybe one more for trim. So I though I was
about the slowest painter around.



I think the last time i had this house professionally painted it took 4 days
-- last day was a partial for the trim. That's when I was paying
over a grand for someone else to do it though. He wore out a $30
horsehair brush on this job.


I think most of your problem is how slow your are
and how long the paint brush is out in the air.
If you are going that slow, you need to be dipping
that brush in water at least every 1/2 hour.
Waste a little paint but you will paint faster and
better.



I sure do feel bad about doing it so slow. ;-) The other side of the coin
is that i am doing it at all. I will keep your suggestion in mind about
dipping the brush.

FACE


Sorry, I might have missed some of the earlier
thread that indicated you were painting only a
short time each day. Personally, I couldn't stand
it painting a little each day forever. I want to
get it done and over with. Now, my doors take
forever since I can only do two or three on one
side each day because of space and other
considerations (like I want a bathroom with a
door). :)

patrick mitchel September 8th 05 06:13 AM

FACE wrote:
Question to Pat: Do you use the Big Orange citrus cleaner full

strength or
in a dilution? I am also using Zep housewash.

I use it full strength for overnight soaking (after turning the brush upside
down and massaging the solvent into the ferrule to deg to the paint that has
gotten that far) then clean with warm water and repaeat till i get the
flexibility that I want. The citrus cleaners are still solvents so you might
want to use a waterproof glove. I didn't and did not suffer any skin
problems. Now, as to my liver - who the heck knows. Pat



FACE September 8th 05 12:01 PM

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 03:20:57 GMT, in alt.home.repair "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

I sure do feel bad about doing it so slow. ;-) The other side of the coin
is that i am doing it at all. I will keep your suggestion in mind about
dipping the brush.

FACE


Sorry, I might have missed some of the earlier
thread that indicated you were painting only a
short time each day. Personally, I couldn't stand
it painting a little each day forever. I want to
get it done and over with. Now, my doors take
forever since I can only do two or three on one
side each day because of space and other
considerations (like I want a bathroom with a
door). :)


No problem, George.

I had not mentioned the why of any of it because i did not think it was
really relevant to getting dried paint out of the brush.

FACE



FACE September 8th 05 12:31 PM

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:13:13 -0700, in alt.home.repair "patrick mitchel"
wrote:

FACE wrote:
Question to Pat: Do you use the Big Orange citrus cleaner full

strength or
in a dilution? I am also using Zep housewash.

I use it full strength for overnight soaking (after turning the brush upside
down and massaging the solvent into the ferrule to deg to the paint that has
gotten that far) then clean with warm water and repaeat till i get the
flexibility that I want. The citrus cleaners are still solvents so you might
want to use a waterproof glove. I didn't and did not suffer any skin
problems. Now, as to my liver - who the heck knows. Pat


Thanks. The Zep was actually the more inexpensive available. The previous
housewash I was using said on the label on some types of surfaces to rinse
immediately to prevent etching and that sent me a big flag that said ACID.
The Zep does not say that on the label and has similar dilution instructions
for various jobs but I called the 800 number to the manufacturer inquiring
as to whether I could mix hypochlorite(clorox) with it and they told me no
that it was acidic. The Zep I have gives a 64:1 dilution for pressure
washing, down to 10:1 for intense cleaning jobs. I will be using it at 28:1
and applying with a scrub brush and letting it dry -- I consider that the
old paint in the sun-baked front has enough oxidation to take into
consideration. The color is Blue Slate but it is a lot lighter than it
originally was.

I will first try the white vinegar treatment and if no joy will go to the
Zep at full strength.

FACE


gsjmia September 8th 05 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FACE
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles of
a synthetic house brush?


The active ingredient in OOPS is Xylene, it cheaper to buy a quart at Home Depot, etc. than OOPS. It will dissolve latex paint and not harm the brush.

FACE September 8th 05 07:58 PM

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:13:53 +0100, in alt.home.repair gsjmia
wrote:


FACE Wrote:
Does anyone know a good way to get dried house paint out of the bristles
of
a synthetic house brush?



The active ingredient in OOPS is Xylene, it cheaper to buy a quart at
Home Depot, etc. than OOPS. It will dissolve latex paint and not harm
the brush.


Thanks. I am not familiar with OOPS. First thing i though of was Goof-off,
but besides being over expensive relative to the brush, i figured it would
melt the bristles. I will look into OOPS.

FACE

Marsha[_4_] March 12th 17 06:44 PM

Getting dried latex paint out of housebrush bristles?
 
replying to George E. Cawthon, Marsha wrote:
I love to paint (not pictures) but have never heard of dipping brush in water
while using. Please advise

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