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Scott August 20th 05 04:27 AM

Wobbly ceiling fan
 
I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to
balance the thing -- it's better than it was, in that it no longer terrifies
me to run it on high speed, but it's still not right (22g of weight on a
single blade tip seems excessive). The wobble makes a noise somewhere in
the mounting hardware, which is not so good with a bedroom ceiling fan.
SWMBO does not approve.

So, any opinions on pulling the fan down and taking it to the workbench to
maybe get it balanced better? I know the runout is pretty far from OK, and
that's hard to fix right while it's still dangling from the ceiling. It
also seems that static balancing might be a lot easier with the fan
temporarily mounted to a vertical surface.

Thanks,
-Scott

Anthony Berlin August 20th 05 05:52 AM


Static balance? A friggin' ceiling fan....dude go to Lowes and buy a new
fan....Christ!



"Scott" wrote in message
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I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to
balance the thing -- it's better than it was, in that it no longer

terrifies
me to run it on high speed, but it's still not right (22g of weight on a
single blade tip seems excessive). The wobble makes a noise somewhere in
the mounting hardware, which is not so good with a bedroom ceiling fan.
SWMBO does not approve.

So, any opinions on pulling the fan down and taking it to the workbench to
maybe get it balanced better? I know the runout is pretty far from OK,

and
that's hard to fix right while it's still dangling from the ceiling. It
also seems that static balancing might be a lot easier with the fan
temporarily mounted to a vertical surface.

Thanks,
-Scott




Eric August 20th 05 09:11 AM

Scott wrote:

I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to
balance the thing -- it's better than it was, in that it no longer
terrifies me to run it on high speed, but it's still not right (22g of
weight on a
single blade tip seems excessive). The wobble makes a noise somewhere in
the mounting hardware, which is not so good with a bedroom ceiling fan.
SWMBO does not approve.

So, any opinions on pulling the fan down and taking it to the workbench to
maybe get it balanced better? I know the runout is pretty far from OK,
and
that's hard to fix right while it's still dangling from the ceiling. It
also seems that static balancing might be a lot easier with the fan
temporarily mounted to a vertical surface.

Thanks,
-Scott


Take it back.
Eric


Roy Starrin August 20th 05 03:07 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:27:32 GMT, (Scott) wrote:

I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to
balance the thing The wobble makes a noise somewhere in
the mounting hardware, which is not so good with a bedroom ceiling fan.

Couple of questions to help sort this out:
For You: Is the fan housing loose on the mounting/box to which it
is attached, i.e. can you wobble the whole unit back and forth?
Maybe you need to "heavy up" the mounting system above the
ceiling?!?!?
For those rendering advice: Can balancing the blades correct the
above problem?


Scott August 20th 05 06:50 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:07:00 GMT, Roy Starrin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:27:32 GMT, (Scott) wrote:

I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to
balance the thing The wobble makes a noise somewhere in
the mounting hardware, which is not so good with a bedroom ceiling fan.

Couple of questions to help sort this out:
For You: Is the fan housing loose on the mounting/box to which it
is attached, i.e. can you wobble the whole unit back and forth?
Maybe you need to "heavy up" the mounting system above the
ceiling?!?!?


Everything that's supposed to be tight is tight, and the ceiling box is the
right kind for a fan. There's just enough play inherent in the pipe mount
that things will still move around. It's no different than other pipe
mounted fans I've seen.

-Scott

Scott August 20th 05 06:50 PM

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:52:24 -0500, "Anthony Berlin"
wrote:

Static balance? A friggin' ceiling fan....dude go to Lowes and buy a new
fan....Christ!


IME, ceiling fans from Lowe's don't come perfectly balanced and wobble-free
out of the box. If yours have, you've been very fortunate.

-Scott

Scott August 20th 05 06:50 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 01:11:53 -0700, Eric wrote:

Scott wrote:
I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to


Take it back.


Pretty extreme, don't you think? Sure, I paid $130,000 for the fan, and for
that kind of money I'd have expected a better piece of equipment. OTOH, the
attached house and plot of land are pretty nice. :)

-Scott

Frank Boettcher August 20th 05 07:58 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:50:36 GMT, (Scott) wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:52:24 -0500, "Anthony Berlin"
wrote:

Static balance? A friggin' ceiling fan....dude go to Lowes and buy a new
fan....Christ!


IME, ceiling fans from Lowe's don't come perfectly balanced and wobble-free
out of the box. If yours have, you've been very fortunate.

In the last three years I've put up 5 Hunters to replace other brands
that wobbled, buzzed, clanked, etc. I have five unused balance kits.
nuff said.

Frank


Anthony Berlin August 20th 05 10:13 PM

I would guess, conservatively that I have installed at least 20-24 ceiling
fans in the past year or two. I have never, not even one time had to balance
the blades. Now, if you are having difficulties translating that into, " I
have a bad fan maybe I should return it", then you spend the next month of
your pathetic life "static balancing" the one you have and then come back
and tell everyone how you were able to invest 4 weeks of your time, ( which
is obviously of no value to even yourself, if you're ****ing with this long
enough to bother to post on line), so you could balance a ****ing $300.
ceiling fan. Wonder what your wifes doing while you're playing with your
fan? Hmmmmmmmmmm.........




"Scott" wrote in message
news:430768e3.139221324@localhost...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:52:24 -0500, "Anthony Berlin"
wrote:

Static balance? A friggin' ceiling fan....dude go to Lowes and buy a new
fan....Christ!


IME, ceiling fans from Lowe's don't come perfectly balanced and

wobble-free
out of the box. If yours have, you've been very fortunate.

-Scott




George E. Cawthon August 20th 05 10:51 PM

Scott wrote:
I have a ceiling fan with a serious wobble. I've done my level best to
balance the thing -- it's better than it was, in that it no longer terrifies
me to run it on high speed, but it's still not right (22g of weight on a
single blade tip seems excessive). The wobble makes a noise somewhere in
the mounting hardware, which is not so good with a bedroom ceiling fan.
SWMBO does not approve.

So, any opinions on pulling the fan down and taking it to the workbench to
maybe get it balanced better? I know the runout is pretty far from OK, and
that's hard to fix right while it's still dangling from the ceiling. It
also seems that static balancing might be a lot easier with the fan
temporarily mounted to a vertical surface.

Thanks,
-Scott



Why take it down. You start with a blade any
blade and clamp the weight to that blade at the
hub. Then you slowly move it outward. Look for
any wobble and listen for any noise. If it is
the wrong blade you will quickly notice it as you
move the weight out, so move to the opposite
blade. Maybe you will have to go to one of the
other blades. When you get it the best you can,
move to an adjacent blade with another weight. if
that doesn't work then move to the the other
"adjacent" blade.

It sounds like you have the main out of balance
figured out, but weights are need on two adjacent
blades. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes,
depending on how fast it spins up. Use anything
that will clip on the blade, clothes pin, small
spring clamp, even a smal c clamp, or just use
tape with coins. For a permanent fix, put an
appropriate screw into the blade(s.

OTOH, if you have lots of runout then you have
poor bearings so fix those first.

Scott August 21st 05 09:08 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:51:53 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote:

OTOH, if you have lots of runout then you have
poor bearings so fix those first.


The bearings are OK, it's the blade brackets. Runout may not be the right
term. The blade tips don't ride in quite the same plane, and I believe one
blade is pitched a little differently than the rest. I'm now thinking that
balance weights can't compensate for that. A new set of brackets might
help. Might not.

Anyway, I thought it was worth a try, as it's a nicer fan than what I can
afford to replace it with.

-Scott

Scott August 21st 05 09:08 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:13:13 -0500, "Anthony Berlin"
wrote:

I would guess, conservatively that I have installed at least 20-24 ceiling
fans in the past year or two. I have never, not even one time had to balance
the blades. Now, if you are having difficulties translating that into, " I
have a bad fan maybe I should return it", then you spend the next month of
your pathetic life "static balancing" the one you have and then come back


It's this kind of professional advice that I love this newsgroup for.

I didn't buy or install the fan, it came with the house. Did you not read
the article where I mentioned this? No, of course you didn't.

All of the fans I've bought and installed have needed a little balancing.
None have been as difficult as this one. Maybe I just have a lower
tolerance for shoddy workmanship than you do.

-Scott


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