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[email protected] August 9th 05 03:09 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
Hi - i have a problem with my double hung windows. When ever i "unlock"
the window, the top window slides down automatically. Ideally i guess
one pulls down on the top window for it to slide down. But this one
just comes sliding down automatically as soon as i unlock it.

Could you please tell me what is causing this to happen. I also like to
fix things myself - is this something i can do by myself or do i need
to call window-repair for it?

Thanks for any advise...


Edwin Pawlowski August 9th 05 03:33 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi - i have a problem with my double hung windows. When ever i "unlock"
the window, the top window slides down automatically. Ideally i guess
one pulls down on the top window for it to slide down. But this one
just comes sliding down automatically as soon as i unlock it.

Could you please tell me what is causing this to happen. I also like to
fix things myself - is this something i can do by myself or do i need
to call window-repair for it?

Thanks for any advise...



Counterbalance is not working. Could be weights and pulleys, could be the
spring things on the sides. Determine what type you have first, then either
repair the cords or replace the parts. Could be some newer version too, but
you didn't give much to go on.



[email protected] August 10th 05 12:38 AM

Thanks. It's a double-hung window - installed 5 years ago. I cannot
seem to find the maker - but it looks like the anderson double-hung 200
series. I do not see any "pulley/weight" system. The top window falls
on its own as soon as it is unlocked - it is supposed to slide down
only upon pulling it down. I do not actually see any mechanical system
after it slides down (or after pulling down on the top window). Not
sure how much more details to provide...


Dan Espen August 10th 05 04:13 AM

writes:

Thanks. It's a double-hung window - installed 5 years ago. I cannot
seem to find the maker - but it looks like the anderson double-hung 200
series. I do not see any "pulley/weight" system. The top window falls
on its own as soon as it is unlocked - it is supposed to slide down
only upon pulling it down. I do not actually see any mechanical system
after it slides down (or after pulling down on the top window). Not
sure how much more details to provide...


There seems to be a recall on the latch for that series:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml01/01231.html

William Brown August 10th 05 03:39 PM

I have some Andersen double hungs and they are controlled by a very thin
sash cord, hard to see even if you know it is there. On mine, there is
a double channel guiding the window, and the cord is well hidden in the
channel closest to the outside; it gets there through a break in the
upper frame, that almost looks like they just cut the frame a little too
big for the channel divider. If the cord was broken, I think it would
retract and you would not see anything. Do you have another window
without the problem? If so, look at it and see if there is a sash cord.

wrote:
Thanks. It's a double-hung window - installed 5 years ago. I cannot
seem to find the maker - but it looks like the anderson double-hung 200
series. I do not see any "pulley/weight" system. The top window falls
on its own as soon as it is unlocked - it is supposed to slide down
only upon pulling it down. I do not actually see any mechanical system
after it slides down (or after pulling down on the top window). Not
sure how much more details to provide...


Dan Espen August 10th 05 04:12 PM

William Brown writes:

wrote:
Thanks. It's a double-hung window - installed 5 years ago. I cannot
seem to find the maker - but it looks like the anderson double-hung 200
series. I do not see any "pulley/weight" system. The top window falls
on its own as soon as it is unlocked - it is supposed to slide down
only upon pulling it down. I do not actually see any mechanical system
after it slides down (or after pulling down on the top window). Not
sure how much more details to provide...


I have some Andersen double hungs and they are controlled by a very
thin sash cord, hard to see even if you know it is there. On mine,
there is a double channel guiding the window, and the cord is well
hidden in the channel closest to the outside; it gets there through a
break in the upper frame, that almost looks like they just cut the
frame a little too big for the channel divider. If the cord was
broken, I think it would retract and you would not see anything. Do
you have another window without the problem? If so, look at it and
see if there is a sash cord.


The 200 is a "tilt out for cleaning" window.
You are not going to find a cord.

calhoun August 10th 05 08:06 PM


"Dan Espen" wrote in message
...
William Brown writes:

wrote:
Thanks. It's a double-hung window - installed 5 years ago. I cannot
seem to find the maker - but it looks like the anderson double-hung 200
series. I do not see any "pulley/weight" system. The top window falls
on its own as soon as it is unlocked - it is supposed to slide down
only upon pulling it down. I do not actually see any mechanical system
after it slides down (or after pulling down on the top window). Not
sure how much more details to provide...


I have some Andersen double hungs and they are controlled by a very
thin sash cord, hard to see even if you know it is there. On mine,
there is a double channel guiding the window, and the cord is well
hidden in the channel closest to the outside; it gets there through a
break in the upper frame, that almost looks like they just cut the
frame a little too big for the channel divider. If the cord was
broken, I think it would retract and you would not see anything. Do
you have another window without the problem? If so, look at it and
see if there is a sash cord.


The 200 is a "tilt out for cleaning" window.
You are not going to find a cord.


Learn something new everyday. I thought the 400 was the tilt and the 200 the
narrowline???



Dan Espen August 11th 05 01:06 AM

"calhoun" writes:

"Dan Espen" wrote in message
...
William Brown writes:

wrote:
Thanks. It's a double-hung window - installed 5 years ago. I cannot
seem to find the maker - but it looks like the anderson double-hung 200
series. I do not see any "pulley/weight" system. The top window falls
on its own as soon as it is unlocked - it is supposed to slide down
only upon pulling it down. I do not actually see any mechanical system
after it slides down (or after pulling down on the top window). Not
sure how much more details to provide...


I have some Andersen double hungs and they are controlled by a very
thin sash cord, hard to see even if you know it is there. On mine,
there is a double channel guiding the window, and the cord is well
hidden in the channel closest to the outside; it gets there through a
break in the upper frame, that almost looks like they just cut the
frame a little too big for the channel divider. If the cord was
broken, I think it would retract and you would not see anything. Do
you have another window without the problem? If so, look at it and
see if there is a sash cord.


The 200 is a "tilt out for cleaning" window.
You are not going to find a cord.


Learn something new everyday. I thought the 400 was the tilt and the 200 the
narrowline???


Here is another link to the notice of problems with the series 200:

http://www.andersenwindows.com/corpo...asp?p=40000000

They call the window:

Andersen® 200 Series Tilt-Wash Double-Hung Window

There are even pictures. No cord.

Mike May 28th 21 02:31 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and the top window falls down open also.

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Rod Speed May 28th 21 02:47 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.


You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.

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https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




[email protected] May 28th 21 02:58 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
On Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.


You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.

You are stupid enough to feed the trolls, li'l Rodie.

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https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm



Rod Speed May 28th 21 03:56 AM

Top window falls automatically
 


wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.


You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.


reams of your stupid troll**** flushed where it belongs


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Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.


You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.


But YOU are senile enough to comment on every single such post anyway! What
a sad old man you are!

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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micky May 28th 21 11:14 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.


You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.


I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair. It's web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for years
and is about that topic. It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier. What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not. Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related. It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers. A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line. Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago, and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

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For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Larry[_44_] May 28th 21 12:02 PM

Top window falls automatically
 
On 5/28/21 6:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.


You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.


I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair. It's web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for years
and is about that topic. It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier. What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not. Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related. It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers. A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line. Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago, and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

--
For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Usenet invented alt.home.repair.
Homo-owners-chub figured out a way to resurrect old moldy posts, shove advertising up your ass and skim some dollars for themselves along the way.

Ed Pawlowski[_3_] May 28th 21 03:17 PM

Top window falls automatically
 
On 5/28/2021 7:02 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/28/21 6:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window
and
the top window falls down open also.

You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.


I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair.Â*Â* It's web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for years
and is about that topic.Â*Â* It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier.Â* What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not.Â*Â* Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related.Â* It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers.Â* A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line.Â*Â* Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago, and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

--
For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Usenet invented alt.home.repair.
Homo-owners-chub figured out a way to resurrect old moldy posts, shove
advertising up your ass and skim some dollars for themselves along the way.


Capitalism at work. Few people have ever heard of usenet and most ISPs
don't carry it. Everyone knows of the WWW.

micky May 28th 21 07:57 PM

Top window falls automatically
 
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 10:17:02 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/28/2021 7:02 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/28/21 6:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window
and
the top window falls down open also.

You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.

I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair.** It's web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for years
and is about that topic.** It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier.* What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not.** Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related.* It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers.* A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line.** Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago, and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

--
For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Usenet invented alt.home.repair.
Homo-owners-chub figured out a way to resurrect old moldy posts, shove
advertising up your ass and skim some dollars for themselves along the way.


Capitalism at work. Few people have ever heard of usenet and most ISPs
don't carry it. Everyone knows of the WWW.


Absolutely. I much prefer Usenet but they homeowners is doing nothing
wrong.

I pefer newsgroups to mailing list and webforums too. Much better
format, much more text with no white space. I think I came up with 15
advantages it has. It's disappointing that it's fading away.


Bob F May 28th 21 09:38 PM

Top window falls automatically
 
On 5/28/2021 11:57 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 10:17:02 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/28/2021 7:02 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/28/21 6:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window
and
the top window falls down open also.

You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.

I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair.Â*Â* It's web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for years
and is about that topic.Â*Â* It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier.Â* What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not.Â*Â* Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related.Â* It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers.Â* A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line.Â*Â* Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago, and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

--
For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Usenet invented alt.home.repair.
Homo-owners-chub figured out a way to resurrect old moldy posts, shove
advertising up your ass and skim some dollars for themselves along the way.


Capitalism at work. Few people have ever heard of usenet and most ISPs
don't carry it. Everyone knows of the WWW.


Absolutely. I much prefer Usenet but they homeowners is doing nothing
wrong.


Except, always failing to include enough content so readers can know
what the hell they are talking about without have to go to the stupid
data stealing site.


I pefer newsgroups to mailing list and webforums too. Much better
format, much more text with no white space. I think I came up with 15
advantages it has. It's disappointing that it's fading away.



[email protected] May 29th 21 05:29 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
On Fri, 28 May 2021 12:56:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window and
the top window falls down open also.

You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.


reams of your stupid troll**** flushed where it belongs


Such an original thought, li'l Rodie. You've never said that before!
The *FACT* is that you're stupid enough to feed trolls. Idiot.

[email protected] May 29th 21 05:31 AM

Top window falls automatically
 
On Fri, 28 May 2021 13:38:00 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/28/2021 11:57 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 10:17:02 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/28/2021 7:02 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/28/21 6:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom window
and
the top window falls down open also.

You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.

I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair.** It's web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for years
and is about that topic.** It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier.* What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not.** Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related.* It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers.* A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line.** Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago, and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

--
For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Usenet invented alt.home.repair.
Homo-owners-chub figured out a way to resurrect old moldy posts, shove
advertising up your ass and skim some dollars for themselves along the way.

Capitalism at work. Few people have ever heard of usenet and most ISPs
don't carry it. Everyone knows of the WWW.


Absolutely. I much prefer Usenet but they homeowners is doing nothing
wrong.


Except, always failing to include enough content so readers can know
what the hell they are talking about without have to go to the stupid
data stealing site.


Except, it's a troll. It's always the same poster and noone from
hommoaners ever replies.

Rod Speed May 29th 21 07:12 AM

Top window falls automatically
 


wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 May 2021 13:38:00 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 5/28/2021 11:57 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 10:17:02 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 5/28/2021 7:02 AM, Larry wrote:
On 5/28/21 6:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 28 May 2021 11:47:38 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Mike wrote

I have the same irritating problem with mine. Open the bottom
window
and
the top window falls down open also.

You're a bit late after 15 years, Rumplestiltskin.

I see this complaint a lot but I think it's misplaced.

I think homemoaners works differently from home.repair. It's
web-based
and emphasizes searching on a topic to find posts on similar topics.
Then people ask their own questions in a thread that can run for
years
and is about that topic. It doesn't matter that the previous poster
was 15 years earlier. What matters to the current poster is whether
someone will answer him or not. Homemoaners is happy to have people
answer in a thread that has been running for decades because at least
sometimes, the answers are related. It doers't matter if the poster
from years ago solved his problem or not.

Home.repair posts are seen mostly by current readers. A post doesn't
get connected to one from years ago unless the poster or reader on
his
own computer has posts going back years and the chosen subject line
is
exactly the same as an earlier subject line. Then the new post and
answer to it get sorted together along with the one from years ago,
and
it's very likely the person with lots of very old posts on his own
computer will never see the new post or answers to it, because they
will
sort so high in the list.

IOW homemoaners and home.repair work very differently.

--
For full context, visit
https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...lly-20592-.htm




Usenet invented alt.home.repair.
Homo-owners-chub figured out a way to resurrect old moldy posts, shove
advertising up your ass and skim some dollars for themselves along the
way.

Capitalism at work. Few people have ever heard of usenet and most ISPs
don't carry it. Everyone knows of the WWW.

Absolutely. I much prefer Usenet but they homeowners is doing nothing
wrong.


Except, always failing to include enough content so readers can know
what the hell they are talking about without have to go to the stupid
data stealing site.


Except, it's a troll. It's always the same poster


Bull****. That site is the one that puts the post on usenet, stupid.

and noone from hommoaners ever replies.


That's a pig ignorant lie too.


Peeler[_4_] May 29th 21 09:05 AM

More Heavy Trolling by the Nym-Shifting Senile Australian Pest!
 
On Sat, 29 May 2021 14:32:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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On Sat, 29 May 2021 16:12:17 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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