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CWLee August 7th 05 06:14 PM

Two Termite Types?
 

Doing my homework on getting rid of my
termites, I learn there are two types of concern
here in the Southern California area: drywall
termites, which live in the house and eat the wood, and
subterranean termites, which live in the soil adjacent to
the house and visit the house daily for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner.

I know I have the drywall type, based on their droppings
on the second floor of the house and in the attic crawl
space. I plan to have the house tented to get rid of
them. I wonder about subterranean termites.

Fumigation is supposed to kill all the drywall termites, and
practically none of the subterranean ones. How does one
determine if any subterranean ones are present? If they are
present, how does one get rid of them?
--
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CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not preferences.


CWLee August 7th 05 06:22 PM


In case it makes a difference, my home is on a slab.

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"CWLee" wrote in message
...

Doing my homework on getting rid of my
termites, I learn there are two types of concern
here in the Southern California area: drywall
termites, which live in the house and eat the wood, and
subterranean termites, which live in the soil adjacent to
the house and visit the house daily for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner.

I know I have the drywall type, based on their droppings
on the second floor of the house and in the attic crawl
space. I plan to have the house tented to get rid of
them. I wonder about subterranean termites.

Fumigation is supposed to kill all the drywall termites,

and
practically none of the subterranean ones. How does one
determine if any subterranean ones are present? If they

are
present, how does one get rid of them?
--
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas,

and
promote for performance, not preferences.



Sacramento Dave August 7th 05 06:39 PM

look around the outside of the house for termite tubes. they look a dirt
trail about the diameter of a pencil going from the ground to under the
siding or stucco. If you have an older home they might of stuccoed all the
way down to the ground if so you would want to get the stucco cut above the
ground. I believe if you have termite tubes there Subterranean. I been told
the can also get threw crakes in the slab. The bad part to all this is you
can't come close to determining the damage until you start tearing into
things.




"CWLee" wrote in message
...

Doing my homework on getting rid of my
termites, I learn there are two types of concern
here in the Southern California area: drywall
termites, which live in the house and eat the wood, and
subterranean termites, which live in the soil adjacent to
the house and visit the house daily for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner.

I know I have the drywall type, based on their droppings
on the second floor of the house and in the attic crawl
space. I plan to have the house tented to get rid of
them. I wonder about subterranean termites.

Fumigation is supposed to kill all the drywall termites, and
practically none of the subterranean ones. How does one
determine if any subterranean ones are present? If they are
present, how does one get rid of them?
--
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not preferences.




Bud August 7th 05 08:55 PM

Find the website for the Extension Office in your state. Not all
states have been invaded by all types of termites...yet! The site
should also tell you the best way to get rid of them & prevention.


Abe August 7th 05 09:33 PM

I believe if you have termite tubes there Subterranean. I been told
the can also get threw crakes in the slab. The bad part to all this is you
can't come close to determining the damage until you start tearing into
things.

What's a crake in the slab?

Sacramento Dave August 7th 05 10:26 PM


"Abe" wrote in message
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What's a crake in the slab?


Short version French for LayCrack, Mex. For Ellcracko, German Mhinecrack,
Japanese oycrack, Russian Dacrack and news group's Crake. See it's right
their, I guess some people don't speak News's Group.



Lar August 7th 05 11:23 PM

In article ,
says...

:) I know I have the drywall type, based on their droppings
:) on the second floor of the house and in the attic crawl
:) space. I plan to have the house tented to get rid of
:) them. I wonder about subterranean termites.
:)
:) Fumigation is supposed to kill all the drywall termites, and
:) practically none of the subterranean ones. How does one
:) determine if any subterranean ones are present? If they are
:) present, how does one get rid of them?
:)

The company you hire for the dry wood termite fumigation will do a
thorough inspection and should be able to locate any sub's also. As
mentioned the obvious signs will be mud tubes along the foundation..
http://arrow-pestcontrol.com/termite.htm some of the subtle signs will
be pin holes in the walls capped with mud...blistering of the painted
surfaces..mud where two pieces of wood may meet. Their treatment is
either treating the soil with a liquid or using baiting systems. My
suggestion for the best sub termite protection would be, if needed, to
have the home treated with a liquid called Termidor.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

James \Cubby\ Culbertson August 8th 05 12:42 AM

They're "Dry Wood" termites. Not "Dry Wall" termites. Fortunately, we
only have the subterranean and even then, they're a major concern.
Good luck to you on this!
Cheers,
cc

"CWLee" wrote in message
...

Doing my homework on getting rid of my
termites, I learn there are two types of concern
here in the Southern California area: drywall
termites, which live in the house and eat the wood, and
subterranean termites, which live in the soil adjacent to
the house and visit the house daily for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner.

I know I have the drywall type, based on their droppings
on the second floor of the house and in the attic crawl
space. I plan to have the house tented to get rid of
them. I wonder about subterranean termites.

Fumigation is supposed to kill all the drywall termites, and
practically none of the subterranean ones. How does one
determine if any subterranean ones are present? If they are
present, how does one get rid of them?
--
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not preferences.




Norminn August 8th 05 12:47 AM



CWLee wrote:
Doing my homework on getting rid of my
termites, I learn there are two types of concern
here in the Southern California area: drywall
termites, which live in the house and eat the wood, and
subterranean termites, which live in the soil adjacent to
the house and visit the house daily for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner.

I know I have the drywall type, based on their droppings
on the second floor of the house and in the attic crawl
space. I plan to have the house tented to get rid of
them. I wonder about subterranean termites.

Fumigation is supposed to kill all the drywall termites, and
practically none of the subterranean ones. How does one
determine if any subterranean ones are present? If they are
present, how does one get rid of them?


You mean drywood? There are also damp wood termites here in FL, and
lots of varieties in each species. Subterranean termites can go far
into wood structure, so second story doesn't mean they are one kind or
another.

If you tap around near where you found the droppings, you likely will be
able to detect hollow sounding wood. If you poke into that, you likely
will find their tunnels. They can eat out most of a segment of wood,
but leave the surface intact and paper thin. In our condo, there is a
wood partition that was infested at one time. A foot-long section of
1x12 was eaten away entirely but for it's intact coat of paint.

The droppings you found could be something entirely different, so a
reputable, licensed pest control contractor should be your first call.
Contact a couple of them, and be aware that some larger ones subcontract
their chem applications. As a fallback, try to take specimens to your
county extension service; they often have entymologists? who can ID the
bug for you. Drywood and subt require very different controls, and
doing a google search will probably get you info for your area. Also
want to look into detection and prevention; not rocket science.

Subt., in a slab house, will build mud tubes (looks like a fat, dried
out earthworm) from ground to wood. They avoid light, thus always
within wood, not to outside of it. Piles of shed wings around openings,
blistery appearance to woodwork or surface of drywall. They eat any
form of cellulose. This is not a DIY task. Subt. often come in around
plumbing entries, cracks in slabs, beneath stucco or siding, from trees
and shrubbery in contact with wood. The do not go through paint, so
keeping things ship shape and sealed up helps.



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