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[email protected] July 26th 05 12:30 PM

Electrician Tools Extending Work Box?
 
Greetings,

Here's a real newbie question and I'm afraid it comes from my ignorance
of not knowing anything about tools.

I purchased a home were they've installed chair rail (Wains Coating) in
the kitchen prior to us moving in. They left the electrical outlets,
loose as we need to paint, etc....

OK, no problem.. I go to screw them in and I realize that they be right
up against the wood and a little checking and I realize the electrical
work boxes need to be extended. No problem, I buy a box extender and I
realize they've not cut the chair rail enough for these to fit in...

So... I need to cut a bigger hole in this wood.

Which tool? Someone suggested a small circular saw and since I have
zero tools suggested I buy a cordless combo kit from Sears (Craftsman).

OK... I look at the tool kit and see a Reciprocating saw!?
Would that not be a better choice to use?
Or am I going about this all wrong?

Any suggestion a newbie website of where to use which tools for what?

Thanks much...

Regards,

Paul


Rick July 26th 05 12:44 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Greetings,

Here's a real newbie question and I'm afraid it comes from my

ignorance
of not knowing anything about tools.

I purchased a home were they've installed chair rail (Wains Coating)

in
the kitchen prior to us moving in. They left the electrical outlets,
loose as we need to paint, etc....

OK, no problem.. I go to screw them in and I realize that they be

right
up against the wood and a little checking and I realize the

electrical
work boxes need to be extended. No problem, I buy a box extender

and I
realize they've not cut the chair rail enough for these to fit in...

So... I need to cut a bigger hole in this wood.

Which tool? Someone suggested a small circular saw and since I have
zero tools suggested I buy a cordless combo kit from Sears

(Craftsman).

OK... I look at the tool kit and see a Reciprocating saw!?
Would that not be a better choice to use?
Or am I going about this all wrong?

Any suggestion a newbie website of where to use which tools for

what?

Thanks much...

Regards,

Paul



Chair rail and wainscoting are completely different things. If you're
talking about a sort of panel that goes from the floor and up about 3
feet, that's wainscoting

A Rotozip will make quick work of enlarging the holes. Or, if the box
is just recessed slightly, buy a few packs of frogs and then you don't
need to cut anything



Jules77 July 26th 05 01:18 PM

Thanks.. Rick.. its wainscoting, its goes up from the floor.
The Rotozip looks cool... not sure which "config" is a best buy.. but
I'll be sure to add it to my list.


"Packs of frogs" ? Is that a joke that I just don't get?


wkearney99 July 26th 05 01:49 PM

Any suggestion a newbie website of where to use which tools for what?

Rotozip with a guide bit. Just be careful with how the bit moves. A bit
with the guide tip will help prevent it from skipping around but you do want
to be careful with it. A reciprocating or jig saw could be used but the
speed of them might well end up destroying the wiring if it gets out of
control. A hand saw would probably be safer. A circular saw would be a BAD
IDEA.

Start with a hand saw, the sort made for cutting out drywall holes. Cheap
and easy to control. Just be sure as you're digging into it that you don't
gouge in "too far" and possibly catch on Romex inside the wall. Otherwise
the rotozip w/guide bit is probably the best bet.


Rick July 26th 05 02:09 PM


"Jules77" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks.. Rick.. its wainscoting, its goes up from the floor.
The Rotozip looks cool... not sure which "config" is a best buy..

but
I'll be sure to add it to my list.


"Packs of frogs" ? Is that a joke that I just don't get?



Frogs is the brand name (can't recall which company right now) of
stackable little spacers made for that purpose...




Edwin Pawlowski July 26th 05 02:26 PM


wrote in message
So... I need to cut a bigger hole in this wood.

Which tool? Someone suggested a small circular saw


NO! That is the wrong tool for sure.

and since I have
zero tools suggested I buy a cordless combo kit from Sears (Craftsman).

OK... I look at the tool kit and see a Reciprocating saw!?
Would that not be a better choice to use?


Better choice, but not the best tool.

Three options. Small hand saw like a keyhole saw, a Rotozip with a cutting
bit, or a jig saw.

If you decide to go with a Rotozip, practice on a scrap first as you can
easily get carried away and do damage. Jigsaw is easier to control and will
be a more useful tool to own in the long run.



No July 26th 05 04:18 PM

I would be very afraid of using a recip saw for such fine work. My Milwalkee
sawzall reciprocating saw is capable of cutting the wall in half without
missing a beat! I have never mastered the rotozip, I have a Delta version.
Maybe the bit selection is key. I would just use a small keyhole saw or
possible a jigsaw and then extend the boxes.
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
news:vSqFe.9728$ab2.4706@trndny07...

wrote in message
So... I need to cut a bigger hole in this wood.

Which tool? Someone suggested a small circular saw


NO! That is the wrong tool for sure.

and since I have
zero tools suggested I buy a cordless combo kit from Sears (Craftsman).

OK... I look at the tool kit and see a Reciprocating saw!?
Would that not be a better choice to use?


Better choice, but not the best tool.

Three options. Small hand saw like a keyhole saw, a Rotozip with a
cutting bit, or a jig saw.

If you decide to go with a Rotozip, practice on a scrap first as you can
easily get carried away and do damage. Jigsaw is easier to control and
will be a more useful tool to own in the long run.





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