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Boothbay July 19th 05 11:55 PM

cementing a 3 x 3 feet opening
 
A few years ago I had my front yard covered with cement. I had them
leave me a 3 x 3 foot opening for a future shrub. Since then,
everything I tried to plant in that opening..died on me. It faces
south. Now, i want to complete that yard by covering it. I bought
quikcrete or quikcement bag. I hesitate in doing for the reasons that
follow: It may not match the rest of the cemented yard and most of all,
I do not how to get it started. I seem to recall when it was done, the
men laid metal bars. Would I have to do the same for such a size? Thanks


[email protected] July 20th 05 12:26 AM

Greetings,

Mix up a batch according to the instructions on the bag and see what
colour it turns out AFTER IT IS DRY. If it is close use it. If it is
far off you might need to switch brands, add pigment, or mix your own
using sand of a similar colour to that used originally. You shouldn't
need "metal bars" for a 3x3' opening but I am sure someone here will
argue with me. If it makes you feel better purchase some "rebar" from
a home supply store and put it into the middle of your slab.

Hope this helps,
William


Travis Jordan July 20th 05 12:30 AM

Boothbay wrote:
A few years ago I had my front yard covered with cement. I had them


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Doug Boulter July 20th 05 09:44 AM

"Boothbay" wrote on 19 Jul 2005:

Since then,
everything I tried to plant in that opening..died on me. It faces
south.


South isn't the problem. The ground under the existing concrete is
dry as a bone, and any water you gave to the plant quickly wicked
into the dry ground. Or alternatively, a lot of rain water ran off
the concrete into the hole and you drowned the plants.

Guess you don't want a lecture about why paving over a lawn is
terrible for the environment, huh?

I do disagree with the poster who said not to worry about the
rebar, although you could use alternatives to rebar. The problem I
see is if the soil at the hole isn't sufficiently compacted. Your
patch could drop. Or maybe not. But I don't see any result that,
at best, won't look like a 3x3 patch.

--
Doug Boulter

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EXT July 20th 05 04:42 PM

Use the old architectural or design method: "If you cannot make it match,
make it a contrast so it looks like you intended it to be that way". Set a
few paving bricks in the opening, stand a fountain or statue on the space,
build up the sides to make a raised garden and plant a few flowers in it.
There are many ways to feature it instead of hiding it.


"Boothbay" wrote in message
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A few years ago I had my front yard covered with cement. I had them
leave me a 3 x 3 foot opening for a future shrub. Since then,
everything I tried to plant in that opening..died on me. It faces
south. Now, i want to complete that yard by covering it. I bought
quikcrete or quikcement bag. I hesitate in doing for the reasons that
follow: It may not match the rest of the cemented yard and most of all,
I do not how to get it started. I seem to recall when it was done, the
men laid metal bars. Would I have to do the same for such a size? Thanks




Tim Fischer July 20th 05 07:42 PM

Wow, a paved yard. And one without a single bush... I think I'm going to
be ill...

-Tim



nospambob July 21st 05 04:05 PM

The b*tch accross the street took an attractive house and converted it
to a BLOB! Many owners prior to her had the brick posts aside the
driveway with light fixtures on top lit every night, 20+ years since
we've been here. After closure they were lit ONE evening until she
saw them. NO plantings against the house and wont be until the cement
is removed. Parking strip had weeds and straggly bottle brush tree
but no longer, now cement. People used to stop in the fall and ask
what the tree was in the front yard, liquid amber it WAS until she
tore it out. Shutters near windows used to look good, gone. Pebbles
cover what WAS a planter next to the driveway.

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:42:47 -0500, "Tim Fischer"
wrote:

Wow, a paved yard. And one without a single bush... I think I'm going to
be ill...

-Tim




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