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Lee June 22nd 05 03:28 AM

Insulation for 4" exhaust fan duct - available?
 
I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?

New & Improved - N/F John June 22nd 05 04:19 AM

You can find fiberglass pipe wrap at the big boxes or probably a True Value
or Sentry. My concern was the effectiveness of the flaps.

"Lee" wrote in message
...
I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?




HeatMan June 22nd 05 12:36 PM


"Lee" wrote in message
...
I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?.


Not to be a smart alec, but why do you want to insulate it?



Bill Waller June 22nd 05 01:09 PM

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:28:17 -0700, Lee wrote:

I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?


I worked for a manufacturers rep many years ago. One of the lines we carried
was pipe insulation in sizes from 1/2" to 12" with various types of insulating
material and several different sheaths.

If you contact
Accessible Products Co.
2122 W 5th Place
Tempe, AZ 85281
Phone: (480) 967-8888
Toll Free: (800) 922-5252
Fax: (480) 894-6255

they may be able to give you the name of their representative/distributor in
your area.

No, I have nothing to do with Accessible Products anymore.



____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA



Art Todesco June 22nd 05 02:03 PM

In areas where it is very cold and the
pipe passes through an unheated
attic, condensation (or ice) can form on
the inside of the pipe. This happens
because the flap at the fan doesn't
usually close 100% and allows some
inside air to pass even when the fan is
off. If ice forms, it will eventually
melt and might probably drip from the
fan. I've had it happen.

HeatMan wrote:
"Lee" wrote in message
...

I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?.



Not to be a smart alec, but why do you want to insulate it?



HerHusband June 22nd 05 07:13 PM

I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?


I don't know the specifics of your installation, but if at all possible,
try to slope the majority of the line towards the outside vent. That allows
any condensation that builds up to drain off outside the building and not
back into your fan.

As for the insulation, I just put an extra layer of fiberglass batts over
my vent lines in the attic space (ours vent out the gable end walls).
They're probably better insulated than the rest of our house. :)

You could also wrap the pipe with fiberglass batts and use string, duct
tape, plastic zip ties, or something similar to hold it all in place.

Alternatively, use long strips of insulation, and start wrapping at one
end, overlapping the previous wrap by a 1/2 width or so with each turn.
This would give you about twice the insulating value and no gaps in the
insulation.

Anthony

HeatMan June 22nd 05 11:48 PM

Okay, that makes sense. Around here, it doesn't get THAT cold....

"Art Todesco" wrote in message
...
In areas where it is very cold and the
pipe passes through an unheated
attic, condensation (or ice) can form on
the inside of the pipe. This happens
because the flap at the fan doesn't
usually close 100% and allows some
inside air to pass even when the fan is
off. If ice forms, it will eventually
melt and might probably drip from the
fan. I've had it happen.

HeatMan wrote:
"Lee" wrote in message
...

I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the

exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?.



Not to be a smart alec, but why do you want to insulate it?





Paul Franklin June 23rd 05 02:03 AM



"Lee" wrote in message
.. .
I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?.



Why not use the pre-insulated flexible duct? The big box stores around
here all carry it. Unless your run is really long, the extra losses
won't be an issue on the push side of the fan, and it will be quieter.

HTH,

Paul


Lee June 23rd 05 02:43 AM

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:03:21 -0400, Paul Franklin wrote:


"Lee" wrote in message
. ..
I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?.



Why not use the pre-insulated flexible duct? The big box stores around
here all carry it. Unless your run is really long, the extra losses
won't be an issue on the push side of the fan, and it will be quieter.

HTH,

Paul


I might end up using flexible duct, as the run is short. I didn't find it
at the local Lowe's store however. Will check Home Depot.

Lee June 23rd 05 02:44 AM

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:09:52 -0400, Bill Waller wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:28:17 -0700, Lee wrote:

I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?


I worked for a manufacturers rep many years ago. One of the lines we carried
was pipe insulation in sizes from 1/2" to 12" with various types of insulating
material and several different sheaths.

If you contact
Accessible Products Co.
2122 W 5th Place
Tempe, AZ 85281
Phone: (480) 967-8888
Toll Free: (800) 922-5252
Fax: (480) 894-6255

they may be able to give you the name of their representative/distributor in
your area.

No, I have nothing to do with Accessible Products anymore.



____________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA



Thank you Bill. I'll give them a call.

Lee June 23rd 05 02:47 AM

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:13:55 -0500, HerHusband wrote:

I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?


I don't know the specifics of your installation, but if at all possible,
try to slope the majority of the line towards the outside vent. That allows
any condensation that builds up to drain off outside the building and not
back into your fan.

As for the insulation, I just put an extra layer of fiberglass batts over
my vent lines in the attic space (ours vent out the gable end walls).
They're probably better insulated than the rest of our house. :)

You could also wrap the pipe with fiberglass batts and use string, duct
tape, plastic zip ties, or something similar to hold it all in place.

Alternatively, use long strips of insulation, and start wrapping at one
end, overlapping the previous wrap by a 1/2 width or so with each turn.
This would give you about twice the insulating value and no gaps in the
insulation.

Anthony


I wish I could slope the duct down, but I have to route the duct about 2
feet over and 4 feet up to vent through an outside wall.

Thanks for the idea of using the fiberglass bats, that sounds like it would
work quite well. Not too hard on this short run either. I might do that if
I can't find 4" pipe insulation locally. So far I found only 6".

K Ruck June 26th 05 05:53 PM

I just bought a box of insulated 4" flexible duct at Menards (in Michigan) I
think it was 25' for about $10. compared to my original plan of using solid
duct, I'm _much_ happier, because I found out I had to take it up into the
attic, then back out a eave (down-facing vent) which would have been a
nightmare to make and insulate in tight quarters. It left me enough to do
my other bathroom's vent when I get to it, and I'll probably have leftover
to boot.


"Lee" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 21:03:21 -0400, Paul Franklin wrote:


"Lee" wrote in message
. ..
I'm installing a bathroom exhaust fan, and I want to insulate the

exhaust
duct. I'm planning to use 4" solid exhaust duct. Where can I find
insulation for this 4" round duct?.


Why not use the pre-insulated flexible duct? The big box stores around
here all carry it. Unless your run is really long, the extra losses
won't be an issue on the push side of the fan, and it will be quieter.

HTH,

Paul


I might end up using flexible duct, as the run is short. I didn't find it
at the local Lowe's store however. Will check Home Depot.





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