Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against it;
although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch the cut)
the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't absorb
water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think a hottub
cover would be waterproof?)

"toller" wrote in message
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My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against
it; although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch the
cut) the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't
absorb water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think a
hottub cover would be waterproof?)


Styrofoam is Dow Chemical's brand name for their blue extruded insulation
board. You may have that or something else often mistakenly called
styrofoam. White expanded polystyrene is often called that by error. Over
time, it can absorb some water. A well fused well made piece is fairly
solid when skinned over, but it is made from a cellular structure in the
material. Once the cell open or the interstices are opened, water can get
in.

Be aware that animals (beavers, muskrats) will chew the "stryofoam" into
little pieces which will than float across your entire lake. A local nature
area used "styrofoam" blocks to make floating sidewalks. They have since
switched to prison labor with tiny aqaurium nets to fish the stuff out of
the virgin wetlands as it does not decompose.

"toller" wrote in message
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My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against
it; although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch the
cut) the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't
absorb water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think a
hottub cover would be waterproof?)

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"toller" wrote in message
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My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against
it; although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch
the cut) the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't
absorb water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think
a hottub cover would be waterproof?)


Styrofoam is Dow Chemical's brand name for their blue extruded insulation
board. You may have that or something else often mistakenly called
styrofoam. White expanded polystyrene is often called that by error.
Over time, it can absorb some water. A well fused well made piece is
fairly solid when skinned over, but it is made from a cellular structure
in the material. Once the cell open or the interstices are opened, water
can get in.
Well, it is white, so I guess it isn't Dow's product; but it is really
smooth, so that means the surface is fused?

toller wrote:

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"toller" wrote in message
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My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against
it; although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch
the cut) the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't
absorb water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think
a hottub cover would be waterproof?)


Styrofoam is Dow Chemical's brand name for their blue extruded insulation
board. You may have that or something else often mistakenly called
styrofoam. White expanded polystyrene is often called that by error.
Over time, it can absorb some water. A well fused well made piece is
fairly solid when skinned over, but it is made from a cellular structure
in the material. Once the cell open or the interstices are opened, water
can get in.
Well, it is white, so I guess it isn't Dow's product; but it is really
smooth, so that means the surface is fused?

Don't think the blue has anything to do w/ it...

Perhaps, but the warning about critters is significant and if submerged
it will saturate eventually. It will be temporary at best.

"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:53:56 GMT, "toller" wrote:

My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against
it;
although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch the
cut)
the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't
absorb
water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think a hottub
cover would be waterproof?)


The foam in hot tub covers absorbs water. When they make a hot tub
cover, they wrap the foam with a sheet of polyethelyne and tape it up
well to seal out moisture. That poly eventually rots and disintegrates
Then the foam absorbs moisture until it become extremely heavy. That's
basically what determines the lifespan of a hot tub cover. Some cover
manufacturers offer an extra cost option of wrapping the foam with TWO
layers of polyethelyne, which substantially increases the lifespan of
the cover. The outer vinyl covering itself is not effective at keeping
out moisture as there are thousands of holes from the stitching. Then
there are the zippers...

Yeh, I see it is wrapped and taped. Oh well; thanks.

"The foam in hot tub covers absorbs water. When they make a hot tub
cover, they wrap the foam with a sheet of polyethelyne and tape it up
well to seal out moisture. That poly eventually rots and disintegrates
Then the foam absorbs moisture until it become extremely heavy. That's
basically what determines the lifespan of a hot tub cover. "

That's basicly it and exactly what happened to my spa cover. If it's
kept indoors, it will last longer. Outside, they last maybe 5 yrs or
so before they get water logged and heavy. Of course they lose the
insulation value at that point too.

Would it make any sense to cutting the polyethylene off, letting it dry out
in the sun for a while and then maybe putting spar varnish on it?

I only need a swim platform about 3 months a year; it has 9 months to dry.

I think you'd be better off building a small deck on top of 4 or more
"floats".
One commonly free item if you can find them is plastic 55gal drums.
They are super rugged, and seemingly aren't UV damaged. I see them
frequently in
floating docks that are quite old and in good condition.
bill

"toller" wrote in message
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Would it make any sense to cutting the polyethylene off, letting it dry
out in the sun for a while and then maybe putting spar varnish on it?

I only need a swim platform about 3 months a year; it has 9 months to dry.

Have you ever reused a Styrofoam coffee cup? I drink a lot of coffee and one
time I only had access to a single Styrofoam coffee cup. I used it all day,
kept refilling it, for about 6-8 cups of coffee over about 7 hours. By last
cup Styrofoam was seeping coffee through. Yuck.

"toller" wrote in message
...
My neighbor threw out a 6' diameter hottub cover, presumably because the
fabric covering had a small cut in it. It is entirely styrofoam.

I was thinking of using it either as a swimplatform at the lake, or as
floatation for a wood swimplatform. The manufacturer recommends against
it; although the covering is nominally waterproof (well, after I patch the
cut) the styrofoam will eventually absorb water and become useless.

Is that true? Styrofoam is used for boyancy in boats and it doesn't
absorb water, but maybe they waterproof it somehow. (wouldn't you think a
hottub cover would be waterproof?)

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

replying to toller, wai wrote:
I guess Styrofoam absorb very little amount of water , Styrofoam boxes we use
for preserve fish in to ice , every time after wash Styrofoam box I left a bit
water because I pour it not entire out of water , month by month pass ,
Styrofoam box was a bit heavier than before , it store moisture in it . sorry
my English not fluent .

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Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

On 3/22/2016 9:44 AM, wai wrote:
replying to toller, wai wrote:
I guess Styrofoam absorb very little amount of water , Styrofoam boxes
we use
for preserve fish in to ice , every time after wash Styrofoam box I left
a bit
water because I pour it not entire out of water , month by month pass ,
Styrofoam box was a bit heavier than before , it store moisture in it .
sorry
my English not fluent .



Is the original poster talking Styrofoam brand blue extruded insulation
or the white foam used in sheets or molded?


Absorption depends on the quality of the manufacture. It is a cellular
material and it can absorb a tiny bit of moisture. When the box is
made, the plastic bead is blown into an aluminum mold and then heated
with steam. That causes the beads to soften and stick together. It is
then cooled and ejected. Some molders don't take the time (think cost)
to get a better box and they are the ones that eventually leak.

EPS sheets used for insulation are cut from a large billet.

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:00:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/22/2016 9:44 AM, wai wrote:
replying to toller, wai wrote:
I guess Styrofoam absorb very little amount of water, Styrofoam boxes
we use for preserve fish in to ice, every time after wash Styrofoam
box I left a bit water because I pour it not entire out of water, month by
month pass, Styrofoam box was a bit heavier than before, it store
moisture in it.
sorry my English not fluent.

Is the original poster talking Styrofoam brand blue extruded insulation
or the white foam used in sheets or molded?

The original poster asked the question back in 2005.

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

On 3/22/2016 11:38 AM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:00:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/22/2016 9:44 AM, wai wrote:
replying to toller, wai wrote:
I guess Styrofoam absorb very little amount of water, Styrofoam boxes
we use for preserve fish in to ice, every time after wash Styrofoam
box I left a bit water because I pour it not entire out of water, month by
month pass, Styrofoam box was a bit heavier than before, it store
moisture in it.
sorry my English not fluent.

Is the original poster talking Styrofoam brand blue extruded insulation
or the white foam used in sheets or molded?

The original poster asked the question back in 2005.


Then he probably has an answer by now from real life experience.

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:03:35 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/22/2016 11:38 AM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:00:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 3/22/2016 9:44 AM, wai wrote:
replying to toller, wai wrote:
I guess Styrofoam absorb very little amount of water, Styrofoam boxes
we use for preserve fish in to ice, every time after wash Styrofoam
box I left a bit water because I pour it not entire out of water, month by
month pass, Styrofoam box was a bit heavier than before, it store
moisture in it.
sorry my English not fluent.

Is the original poster talking Styrofoam brand blue extruded insulation
or the white foam used in sheets or molded?

The original poster asked the question back in 2005.


Then he probably has an answer by now from real life experience.

Or he drowned when his swim platform sunk. Oh, wait, you're right. Drowning
is a real life experience. Brief, but real.

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:03:55 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

sorry my English not fluent.

Is the original poster talking Styrofoam brand blue extruded insulation
or the white foam used in sheets or molded?

The original poster asked the question back in 2005.


Then he probably has an answer by now from real life experience.

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because the OP is long gone!

On a positive note, at least they are ON TOPIC.....

Enjoy it while it's here, this is one of the last newsgroups which still
has activity. But a year from now, it too will be dead and gone!
Quite a few of the usenet servers have shut down recently, even some of
the paid usenet providers have gone under lately. I just read some of
this on the web.

The old internet we learned to love, is dead and gone. All that remains
is one huge commercial, known as the web, and facebook, which provides
the government, advertisers, and crooks, your identity handed to them on
a silver platter! (If you're dumb enough to use it)!

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

Like me, it only absorbs alkyhol.

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

replying to wai, Ross Cumberledge wrote:
English not good but we understand. Thanks wai

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replying to toller, The right one wrote:
Look styrofoam doesnt float I did a project and I left styrofoam in water
for 3 weeks to see if it would sink or float. It sunk and particles came off
of the styrofoam. Any one asking if styrofoam floats well heres your answer
no!👎

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On 12/3/2018 7:44 PM, The right one wrote:
replying to toller, The right oneÂ* wrote:
Look styrofoam doesnt float I did a project and I left styrofoam in water
for 3 weeks to see if it would sink or float. It sunk and particles came
off
of the styrofoam. Any one asking if styrofoam floats well heres your
answer
no!👎

First, what are you talking about. The blue extruded foam panels made
by Dow Chemical and trademarked Styrofoam? Or the while expanded
polystyrene board that people call styrofoam but is not?

Both will float but there will be some water absorption over time. It
also depends on how well it was made and fused to prevent absorption.
Properly made for flotation, EPS board will float for years. Most is
made for insulation so it does not matter.

Does styrofoam absorb water?
 

On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 9:11:04 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/3/2018 7:44 PM, The right one wrote:
replying to toller, The right oneÂ* wrote:
Look styrofoam doesnt float I did a project and I left styrofoam in water
for 3 weeks to see if it would sink or float. It sunk and particles came
off
of the styrofoam. Any one asking if styrofoam floats well heres your
answer
no!👎

First, what are you talking about. The blue extruded foam panels made
by Dow Chemical and trademarked Styrofoam? Or the while expanded
polystyrene board that people call styrofoam but is not?

Both will float but there will be some water absorption over time. It
also depends on how well it was made and fused to prevent absorption.
Properly made for flotation, EPS board will float for years. Most is
made for insulation so it does not matter.


Even if his test is true, whatever styrofoam he had obviously floated for
at least a couple weeks. That doesn't equal "will not float" to me.
Obviously common styrofoam floats, it's very light, less dense than water.
Over time it will absorb water, then it can sink. Just like wood. Would
it be correct to say wood won't float, because eventually it can become
water logged and no longer float?