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Eric and Megan Swope May 8th 05 04:10 PM

removing keyless chuck
 
Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my 19.2 volt
craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the directions in the manual,
which said to insert a 5/16 inch or larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap
sharply in a counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that it
should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes, it still
won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck and spindle meet, no
luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't used yet to try and get the chuck
off? Thanks.
Eric



Greg O May 8th 05 04:16 PM


"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:PZpfe.2134$14.990@trndny03...
Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my 19.2 volt
craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the directions in the manual,
which said to insert a 5/16 inch or larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap
sharply in a counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that
it should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes, it still
won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck and spindle meet,
no luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't used yet to try and get the
chuck off? Thanks.
Eric


Open the chuck all the way and look inside, there should be a screw at the
bottom that you need to remove first. CAUTION!! this screw is left hand
thread, turn CLOCKWISE to loosen. Then go back to the allen wrench and
hammer routine!
Greg



DanG May 8th 05 04:21 PM

Double check your directions. I think they may have said to first
open the chuck as large as possible and use a torx/Phillips/Allen
of such-and- such size to remove the left hand threaded screw
holding the chuck to the spindle. Use a flashlight or somesuch to
look in the hole. Once that screw is removed (you need to turn it
clockwise), the rest of the directions should work just fine.
Make sure you extend the long arm of the largest Allen wrench you
own. It will take a VERY substantial, quick blow to release the
threads. It may well take several VERY SHARP blows to get it to
spin off. As you look at the drill bit end of the chuck, make
sure you are hitting it in the counterclockwise direction.


(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:PZpfe.2134$14.990@trndny03...
Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my
19.2 volt craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the
directions in the manual, which said to insert a 5/16 inch or
larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap sharply in a
counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that it
should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes,
it still won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck
and spindle meet, no luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't
used yet to try and get the chuck off? Thanks.
Eric




Eric and Megan Swope May 8th 05 04:50 PM

Thanks guys. I got the screw out, that was the "easy" part. I inserted the
hex key, like the directions said and hit is sharply in a counterclockwise
direction. This is where I am not quite sure what they mean. They said use
a mallet. The only mallet I have is a rubber mallet? Is this the same
thing, or do they mean something different? Could I use a regular hammer to
strike the hex key? Thanks again.


"DanG" wrote in message
news:R6qfe.20953$yV4.5295@okepread03...
Double check your directions. I think they may have said to first open
the chuck as large as possible and use a torx/Phillips/Allen of such-and-
such size to remove the left hand threaded screw holding the chuck to the
spindle. Use a flashlight or somesuch to look in the hole. Once that
screw is removed (you need to turn it clockwise), the rest of the
directions should work just fine. Make sure you extend the long arm of the
largest Allen wrench you own. It will take a VERY substantial, quick blow
to release the threads. It may well take several VERY SHARP blows to get
it to spin off. As you look at the drill bit end of the chuck, make sure
you are hitting it in the counterclockwise direction.


(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:PZpfe.2134$14.990@trndny03...
Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my 19.2 volt
craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the directions in the manual,
which said to insert a 5/16 inch or larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap
sharply in a counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that
it should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes, it
still won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck and spindle
meet, no luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't used yet to try and
get the chuck off? Thanks.
Eric






Eric and Megan Swope May 8th 05 04:58 PM

To elaborate further, my rubber mallet is only 8 oz. Do I need a heavier
one? How long should I pound on it before I just take it to Sears repair?

"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:azqfe.2136$14.1798@trndny03...
Thanks guys. I got the screw out, that was the "easy" part. I inserted
the hex key, like the directions said and hit is sharply in a
counterclockwise direction. This is where I am not quite sure what they
mean. They said use a mallet. The only mallet I have is a rubber mallet?
Is this the same thing, or do they mean something different? Could I use
a regular hammer to strike the hex key? Thanks again.


"DanG" wrote in message
news:R6qfe.20953$yV4.5295@okepread03...
Double check your directions. I think they may have said to first open
the chuck as large as possible and use a torx/Phillips/Allen of such-and-
such size to remove the left hand threaded screw holding the chuck to the
spindle. Use a flashlight or somesuch to look in the hole. Once that
screw is removed (you need to turn it clockwise), the rest of the
directions should work just fine. Make sure you extend the long arm of
the largest Allen wrench you own. It will take a VERY substantial, quick
blow to release the threads. It may well take several VERY SHARP blows
to get it to spin off. As you look at the drill bit end of the chuck,
make sure you are hitting it in the counterclockwise direction.


(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:PZpfe.2134$14.990@trndny03...
Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my 19.2 volt
craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the directions in the manual,
which said to insert a 5/16 inch or larger hex key (I used 3/8") and
tap sharply in a counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said
that it should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes,
it still won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck and
spindle meet, no luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't used yet to
try and get the chuck off? Thanks.
Eric








Ralph Mowery May 8th 05 04:58 PM


"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:azqfe.2136$14.1798@trndny03...
Thanks guys. I got the screw out, that was the "easy" part. I inserted

the
hex key, like the directions said and hit is sharply in a counterclockwise
direction. This is where I am not quite sure what they mean. They said

use
a mallet. The only mallet I have is a rubber mallet? Is this the same
thing, or do they mean something different? Could I use a regular hammer

to
strike the hex key? Thanks again.


Make sure you turn the chuck in the opposit direction of a normal drill.
YOu can use the hammer. The rubber mallet will soften the blow too much.
You want to make a very sharp hit on the hex key. Make sure you insert the
short end of the key in the chuck as you want to hit the long end near the
end to get the most enegery transferred to the chuck.




Eric and Megan Swope May 8th 05 05:04 PM


Thank you too Ralph. So if I am looking at the chuck, as it's facing me, I
want to turn it counterclockwise correct?

What is the best way to get a good, solid strike? Lay the drill on its
side, with the hex key and chuch hanging off the edge of my workbench, or
some other way? Thanks.

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
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"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:azqfe.2136$14.1798@trndny03...
Thanks guys. I got the screw out, that was the "easy" part. I inserted

the
hex key, like the directions said and hit is sharply in a
counterclockwise
direction. This is where I am not quite sure what they mean. They said

use
a mallet. The only mallet I have is a rubber mallet? Is this the same
thing, or do they mean something different? Could I use a regular hammer

to
strike the hex key? Thanks again.


Make sure you turn the chuck in the opposit direction of a normal drill.
YOu can use the hammer. The rubber mallet will soften the blow too much.
You want to make a very sharp hit on the hex key. Make sure you insert
the
short end of the key in the chuck as you want to hit the long end near the
end to get the most enegery transferred to the chuck.






DanG May 8th 05 05:13 PM



Forget the rubber mallet. Use a regular hammer. It needs to be a
SUBSTANTIAL, QUICK blow - fast and sharp.
Remember the drill and chuck free turn, all that you have holding
the threads one direction is the friction of the motor which ain't
much. You need a quick, fast blow to go quicker than the motor
can turn.

(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:fGqfe.3886$f57.1848@trndny04...
To elaborate further, my rubber mallet is only 8 oz. Do I need
a heavier one? How long should I pound on it before I just take
it to Sears repair?

"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in message
news:azqfe.2136$14.1798@trndny03...
Thanks guys. I got the screw out, that was the "easy" part. I
inserted the hex key, like the directions said and hit is
sharply in a counterclockwise direction. This is where I am
not quite sure what they mean. They said use a mallet. The
only mallet I have is a rubber mallet? Is this the same thing,
or do they mean something different? Could I use a regular
hammer to strike the hex key? Thanks again.


"DanG" wrote in message
news:R6qfe.20953$yV4.5295@okepread03...
Double check your directions. I think they may have said to
first open the chuck as large as possible and use a
torx/Phillips/Allen of such-and- such size to remove the left
hand threaded screw holding the chuck to the spindle. Use a
flashlight or somesuch to look in the hole. Once that screw
is removed (you need to turn it clockwise), the rest of the
directions should work just fine. Make sure you extend the
long arm of the largest Allen wrench you own. It will take a
VERY substantial, quick blow to release the threads. It may
well take several VERY SHARP blows to get it to spin off. As
you look at the drill bit end of the chuck, make sure you are
hitting it in the counterclockwise direction.


(top posted for your convenience)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Eric and Megan Swope" wrote in
message news:PZpfe.2134$14.990@trndny03...
Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my
19.2 volt craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the
directions in the manual, which said to insert a 5/16 inch or
larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap sharply in a
counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that
it should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45
minutes, it still won't come off. I even used some Kroil
where the chuck and spindle meet, no luck. Are there any
tricks that I haven't used yet to try and get the chuck off?
Thanks.
Eric










MUADIB® May 8th 05 06:36 PM

On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:10:39 GMT, "Eric and Megan Swope"
wrote:

Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my 19.2 volt
craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the directions in the manual,
which said to insert a 5/16 inch or larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap
sharply in a counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that it
should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes, it still
won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck and spindle meet, no
luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't used yet to try and get the chuck
off? Thanks.
Eric


This drill should have enough torque to remove the chuck by using the
drill..................in reverse. Generally I have taken a piece of
steel 3/8" stock and tightened it down in my vise. Then hand tightened
the chuck to the stationary piece ( as though I were chucking up a
drill bit) and then truned the drill on full throttle in reverse.( if
it slips, spend a few minutes and file some sides on the round stock
and maybe use some pliers to tighten the chuck a bit tighter)

Provided you are not lifted off the ground and thrown into the wall,
and the bench vise doesn't break free from the bench, this should be
plenty to get the chuck loose. I have never been thrown by a drill,
but have seen people get "moved" a bit by not being prepared.

Would this by chance be a torque limiting type drill with the click
torque settings???? or maybe a hammer drill? The extra impact provided
by such mechanisms will help in some cases to free the chuck. Set to
highest torque setting short of locked direct drive, the mechanism
will provide mild impact. Since you have such a huge drill it should
be some pretty meaty impact.

Direction may be changed back and forth a bit too. Sometimes
tightening just a smidgen will also help to loosen a grip.

Good luck.




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Eric and Megan Swope May 8th 05 08:05 PM

Yeah, it has adjustable torque settings, 1-22 (then the locked setting).
Could I do what you describe, about tightening down in a bench vice, but use
the 3/8 hex key in place of the steel stock? I don't have any of that
laying around. Will I be able to tell distinctly if he chuck becomes
loosened?
Thanks again to everyone for your help.
Eric



"MUADIB®" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:10:39 GMT, "Eric and Megan Swope"
wrote:

Hi everyone. I am trying to remove the keyless chuck from my 19.2 volt
craftsman cordless drill. I have followed the directions in the manual,
which said to insert a 5/16 inch or larger hex key (I used 3/8") and tap
sharply in a counterclockwise direction with a mallet. It then said that
it
should be removable by hand. After doing this for 45 minutes, it still
won't come off. I even used some Kroil where the chuck and spindle meet,
no
luck. Are there any tricks that I haven't used yet to try and get the
chuck
off? Thanks.
Eric


This drill should have enough torque to remove the chuck by using the
drill..................in reverse. Generally I have taken a piece of
steel 3/8" stock and tightened it down in my vise. Then hand tightened
the chuck to the stationary piece ( as though I were chucking up a
drill bit) and then truned the drill on full throttle in reverse.( if
it slips, spend a few minutes and file some sides on the round stock
and maybe use some pliers to tighten the chuck a bit tighter)

Provided you are not lifted off the ground and thrown into the wall,
and the bench vise doesn't break free from the bench, this should be
plenty to get the chuck loose. I have never been thrown by a drill,
but have seen people get "moved" a bit by not being prepared.

Would this by chance be a torque limiting type drill with the click
torque settings???? or maybe a hammer drill? The extra impact provided
by such mechanisms will help in some cases to free the chuck. Set to
highest torque setting short of locked direct drive, the mechanism
will provide mild impact. Since you have such a huge drill it should
be some pretty meaty impact.

Direction may be changed back and forth a bit too. Sometimes
tightening just a smidgen will also help to loosen a grip.

Good luck.




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MUADIB®

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/sster...IN%20PAGE.html

one small step for man,.....
One giant leap for attorneys.




MUADIB® May 9th 05 12:37 AM


Yeah, it has adjustable torque settings, 1-22 (then the locked setting).
Could I do what you describe, about tightening down in a bench vice, but use
the 3/8 hex key in place of the steel stock? I don't have any of that
laying around. Will I be able to tell distinctly if he chuck becomes
loosened?


Yes, to both Questions. Whatever you have that can be used to Simulate
a drill bit, that can be clamped in the vise will be sufficient, and
yes, it will be very distinct when the chuck turns loose, as the drill
will speed up to normal after it comes undone. If you have the screw
that holds the chuck removed , you can install the screw till it's
almost in and apply heat to it using a pencil type soldering iron,
then remove the screw ( avoiding being burned by the hot screw) and
then do the Vise thing. Sometimes I have found some Heat realease type
of Loc-Tite on the threads after removing a stubborn chuck. this will
loosen any if it exists.

Once again, Good luck.




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