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[email protected] April 19th 05 06:36 AM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
I laid a sidewalk and a patio in sand using brick pavers. Whenevr it
rains I get little sand spatters on both. I would like to fix this.
Will a sealer help? Will sweeping in a thin layer of sand and morter
help?.

Specs: 4- 6 inches of #57 gravel (3/4 inch) compacted nicely, with
drainpipe embedded, 1 inch of sharp sand for bedding, bricks, layer of
sand on top, compacted again, sharp sand swept in gaps. Surface sand
swept off ( Until it rains).

Keith


[email protected] April 19th 05 07:00 AM

What kind of sand, yellow? That never works, I've tried it, too
coarse. Around here we have something called "road dust" that's a
really fine grey powder, not sure what it is. Probably from processing
quarry stone or trap rock into different sizes. A friend recommended
it because supposedly it actually stays in the grooves once it gets in
between the bricks.


Joseph Meehan April 19th 05 01:21 PM

wrote:
I laid a sidewalk and a patio in sand using brick pavers. Whenevr it
rains I get little sand spatters on both. I would like to fix this.
Will a sealer help? Will sweeping in a thin layer of sand and morter
help?.

Specs: 4- 6 inches of #57 gravel (3/4 inch) compacted nicely, with
drainpipe embedded, 1 inch of sharp sand for bedding, bricks, layer
of sand on top, compacted again, sharp sand swept in gaps. Surface
sand swept off ( Until it rains).

Keith


Likely you need a little finer sand. That said, I think any sand will
do that in the beginning. Just keep adding a little and sweeping it in.
Each time you will need less and eventually it will be down to once every
few years.

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Philip Lewis April 19th 05 05:01 PM

"Joseph Meehan" writes:
Likely you need a little finer sand. That said, I think any sand will
do that in the beginning. Just keep adding a little and sweeping it in.
Each time you will need less and eventually it will be down to once every
few years.

One trick i've heard of (but not used) is to sweep a little portland
cement into the cracks. Essentially you are making a really weak
concrete. Should be soft enough to scrape out with a stick, but
strong enough to not be washed away.

I imagine it might reduce the drainage properties of the surface.. and
it may have other consequences. Any masons out there know the ins and
outs of this method?

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World Traveler April 19th 05 05:44 PM

A friend swept mortar into the cracks of his paving block driveway -- which
he had constructed himself, but very professionally. It looked beautiful,
and we're getting ready to test that concept on an enclosed patio to see if
it will also help keep down any weeds that might try to grow in the
cracks. -- Regards
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"Joseph Meehan" writes:
Likely you need a little finer sand. That said, I think any sand will
do that in the beginning. Just keep adding a little and sweeping it in.
Each time you will need less and eventually it will be down to once every
few years.

One trick i've heard of (but not used) is to sweep a little portland
cement into the cracks. Essentially you are making a really weak
concrete. Should be soft enough to scrape out with a stick, but
strong enough to not be washed away.

I imagine it might reduce the drainage properties of the surface.. and
it may have other consequences. Any masons out there know the ins and
outs of this method?

--
be safe.
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Joseph Meehan April 19th 05 05:56 PM

Philip Lewis wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" writes:
Likely you need a little finer sand. That said, I think any sand
will do that in the beginning. Just keep adding a little and
sweeping it in. Each time you will need less and eventually it will
be down to once every few years.

One trick i've heard of (but not used) is to sweep a little portland
cement into the cracks. Essentially you are making a really weak
concrete. Should be soft enough to scrape out with a stick, but
strong enough to not be washed away.

I imagine it might reduce the drainage properties of the surface.. and
it may have other consequences. Any masons out there know the ins and
outs of this method?


I have also heard that, but I have not tried it. I would tend to think
that it would work if the mix was not too strong and allowed for movement,
which is the beauty of sand. As it freezes and thaws or moves in other ways
the sand adjust. If repairs are needed a brick or as many as needed can be
removed and reset.

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Goedjn April 19th 05 06:19 PM



I have also heard that, but I have not tried it. I would tend to think
that it would work if the mix was not too strong and allowed for movement,
which is the beauty of sand. As it freezes and thaws or moves in other ways
the sand adjust. If repairs are needed a brick or as many as needed can be
removed and reset.


I think that you should take out the bricks, and pour an 8" thick
monolithic slab with rebar and fiberglass, and stamp and die the top
to LOOK like brick.



[email protected] May 10th 05 01:36 AM

I had the same problem
I've Use Polymetric Sand it will get hard and no longer will be
removed when if rain
http://www.techniseal.com/products.p...=1&langue_Id=1

Remove the sand you have, replace with the polymetric sand like the
one from Techni-Seal, put in the crack 1/2 fill then spay water on in
let it dry for 4 hour then put another
this is specialy for Paver

hope it help



Boots May 12th 05 02:42 AM

where do you get it?
wrote in message
...
I had the same problem
I've Use Polymetric Sand it will get hard and no longer will
be
removed when if rain
http://www.techniseal.com/products.p...=1&langue_Id=1

Remove the sand you have, replace with the polymetric sand
like the
one from Techni-Seal, put in the crack 1/2 fill then spay
water on in
let it dry for 4 hour then put another
this is specialy for Paver

hope it help




Robin Wenz September 20th 17 03:14 PM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
replying to Joseph Meehan, Robin Wenz wrote:
I have the same issue. I've swept about six times to no avail


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Robin Wenz September 20th 17 03:14 PM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
replying to World Traveler, Robin Wenz wrote:
Sprinkle Aldis brand salt on areas that you don't want any growth.


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Bobby[_5_] September 20th 17 03:44 PM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
replying to Robin Wenz, Bobby wrote:
What makes their brand so special? Other brands don't work even though they
are the exact same chemical?

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[email protected] September 20th 17 04:20 PM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
polymeric sand.

Mona May 8th 19 04:44 AM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
replying to Goedjn, Mona wrote:
I think I agree. I have a paver sidewalk and stairs. It has sunk, shifted, and
the sand washes out every year. I have to level up the steps every year. This
year I used polymeric sand and. It washed out faster than the river sand
Ive used in the past. Im very discouraged.

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Theresa Mae May 8th 19 11:26 AM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how tofix?
 
On 5/7/19 10:44 PM, Mona wrote:
replying to Goedjn, Mona wrote:
I think I agree. I have a paver sidewalk and stairs. It has sunk, shifted, and
the sand washes out every year. I have to level up the steps every year.Â* This
year I used polymeric sand and. It washed out faster than the river sand
Ive used in the past. Im very discouraged.


So your roof drains onto your sidewalk and stairs?

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trader_4 May 8th 19 03:28 PM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 5:26:48 AM UTC-4, Theresa Mae wrote:
On 5/7/19 10:44 PM, Mona wrote:
replying to Goedjn, Mona wrote:
I think I agree. I have a paver sidewalk and stairs. It has sunk, shifted, and
the sand washes out every year. I have to level up the steps every year..Â* This
year I used polymeric sand and. It washed out faster than the river sand
Ive used in the past. Im very discouraged.


So your roof drains onto your sidewalk and stairs?

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That would be where I'd start, with why so much water is flowing over it.
I don't have experience using them, but I see them used widely, including
at the beginning of driveways, for the first ten feet or so, and with
an asphalt driveway sloping down to it, there must be lots of water
flowing over that. I don't see them having issues, so if done right,
it must be pretty tolerant to water flowing over it. I guess if it's
water from a roof striking it or gushing from a downspout, that could
make it much worse. Also, the fact that it has sunk and shifted would
indicate it's not on a proper base. I'd think once they start to shift
it's going to open up the joints, which would make it easy for the sand
to wash out and maybe that's a big factor in the problem too.


TimR[_2_] May 8th 19 03:52 PM

The sand between my brick pavers washes out during rain, how to fix?
 
On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 9:28:23 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 5:26:48 AM UTC-4, Theresa Mae wrote:
On 5/7/19 10:44 PM, Mona wrote:
replying to Goedjn, Mona wrote:
I think I agree. I have a paver sidewalk and stairs. It has sunk, shifted, and
the sand washes out every year. I have to level up the steps every year.Â* This
year I used polymeric sand and. It washed out faster than the river sand
Ive used in the past. Im very discouraged.


So your roof drains onto your sidewalk and stairs?

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That would be where I'd start, with why so much water is flowing over it.


Exactly. Rain hitting it won't normally wash sand out, but sheet flow across it will.


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