This is Turtle.

I just got a carpenter to finish a bay window area and there is about area of
about 4 sheet of sheet rock to paint and it has been finished and floated and
new sheet rock.

1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and everything will
be off white?

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like Benny Moore
type paint but what brand is the one to use?

Thank You in advance !

TURTLE

"TURTLE" wrote in message
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This is Turtle.

I just got a carpenter to finish a bay window area and there is about area
of about 4 sheet of sheet rock to paint and it has been finished and
floated and new sheet rock.

1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and
everything will be off white?

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like Benny
Moore type paint but what brand is the one to use?

Thank You in advance !

TURTLE

I like Ben Moore also. Just a coat of latex primer and one or two of the
finished color and you are all set. IMO, any of the better brands will do a
good job. I've tried some cheaper ones and did not like the results. B.
Moore, Pittsburgh, Sherwin Williams, the better Sears grades have all worked
well for me.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

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"TURTLE" wrote in message
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This is Turtle.

I just got a carpenter to finish a bay window area and there is about area of
about 4 sheet of sheet rock to paint and it has been finished and floated and
new sheet rock.

1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and everything
will be off white?

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like Benny Moore
type paint but what brand is the one to use?

Thank You in advance !

TURTLE

I like Ben Moore also. Just a coat of latex primer and one or two of the
finished color and you are all set. IMO, any of the better brands will do a
good job. I've tried some cheaper ones and did not like the results. B.
Moore, Pittsburgh, Sherwin Williams, the better Sears grades have all worked
well for me.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

This is turtle.

Is the Latex Primer a good word to ask for what I want ?

Sorry I know nothing about painting sheet rock.

TURTLE

"TURTLE" wrote in message
This is turtle.

Is the Latex Primer a good word to ask for what I want ?

Sorry I know nothing about painting sheet rock.

TURTLE

Yes, every paint store has it. There are other primers for special uses
over stains, but with new work you don't need any of that.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"TURTLE" wrote in message
This is turtle.

Is the Latex Primer a good word to ask for what I want ?

Sorry I know nothing about painting sheet rock.

TURTLE

Yes, every paint store has it. There are other primers for special uses over
stains, but with new work you don't need any of that.

This is Turtle.

Thank you there.

TURTLE

TURTLE wrote:
I just got a carpenter to finish a bay window area and there is about
area of
about 4 sheet of sheet rock to paint and it has been finished and
floated and
new sheet rock.

1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and
everything will
be off white?

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like
Benny Moore
type paint but what brand is the one to use?

This from the Benjamin Moore site on priming: http://tinyurl.com/3spf8

Two coats of finish paint will be the minimum. Much more durable and
will even out the wall surface better so you won't see the joint
compound (banding).

Consumer Reports had very good things to say about California Paints.
Very good performance and price: http://www.californiapaints.com/

In paint, the expensive stuff is the pigment. This is also what gives
the paint body and coverage (as in covering another color paint so you
don't see it). More pigment, higher price, better paint. The material
cost is the least of it in painting. Don't cheap out on the paint.

R

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:35:46 -0500, "TURTLE"
wrote:


This is Turtle.

I just got a carpenter to finish a bay window area and there is about area of
about 4 sheet of sheet rock to paint and it has been finished and floated and
new sheet rock.

1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and everything will
be off white?

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like Benny Moore
type paint but what brand is the one to use?

Thank You in advance !

TURTLE



They sell a primer for everything. Outside I use them, on an interior
wall, I just paint it. I personally like Lucite brand paint. I think
any name brand paint should work fine indoors. Just avoid the cheap
no-name generic stuff, or you might end of doing 3 or 4 coats, and
that stuff drips all over the place . On new sheet rock, I'd give 2
coats of quality paint.

The idea is that new plaster soaks up paint like a sponge. So, give it
some cheap latex rather than spend big bucks for some top shelf paint.
"Primer" is just that, cheap latex. It's not special.

After the primer, use good paint. I've had good results with Benjamin
Moore although it is expensive. Sherwinn-Williams was very good years
ago but we were not pleased with it when we used it about 10 years ago.
Behr from Home Depot seems to do just fine. [Maybe there is only 2 or 3
paint factories in the world and all paint comes from one of them
regardless of the label!]

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:01:05 -0500, wrote:
They sell a primer for everything. Outside I use them, on an interior
wall, I just paint it. I personally like Lucite brand paint. I think
any name brand paint should work fine indoors. Just avoid the cheap
no-name generic stuff, or you might end of doing 3 or 4 coats, and
that stuff drips all over the place.

And that includes some "name brands", like Ralph Lauren's paints.
They made the only red I liked but it took *7* coats to get it
uniform, not including the primer (which I should have tinted... I
usually do). It was the thinnest latex I've ever used.

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Steve Manes
Brooklyn, NY
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"Steve Manes" wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:01:05 -0500, wrote:
They sell a primer for everything. Outside I use them, on an interior
wall, I just paint it. I personally like Lucite brand paint. I think
any name brand paint should work fine indoors. Just avoid the cheap
no-name generic stuff, or you might end of doing 3 or 4 coats, and
that stuff drips all over the place.

And that includes some "name brands", like Ralph Lauren's paints.
They made the only red I liked but it took *7* coats to get it
uniform, not including the primer (which I should have tinted... I
usually do). It was the thinnest latex I've ever used.

http://www.magpie.com/house/photos/diningroom/jan10.jpg


Steve Manes
Brooklyn, NY
http://www.magpie.com/house/bbs

This is Turtle.

Thanks for the Help on the Painting of Sheet Rock. The Thoughts on the brands
and websites was very helpful.

TURTLE

They made the only red I liked but it took *7* coats to get it
uniform....

Steve, was that red paint in an ultra deep base?

I've done a lot of colors in ultra deep bases -- they all cover well,
in 3 coats max. But the reds in ultra deep are murder.

A specific primer for bare wallboard works, but typically I use some of
the finish coat for priming.

"TURTLE" wrote in message
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1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and
everything will be off white?

Just use the paint you're going to use, and give it 2 coats.

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like Benny
Moore type paint but what brand is the one to use?

If you just shop by brand you'll never get it right. You shop by paint
type, not brand, Benjamin Moore sells high quality paint and they sell
cheap paint. Same for Sherwin Williams, and all the big companies.

"RicodJour" wrote in message
oups.com...

In paint, the expensive stuff is the pigment. This is also what gives
the paint body and coverage (as in covering another color paint so you
don't see it).

Nonsense. All pigment is added to the base can, regardless of color or
amount of pigment added, for free. The expensive part is the acrylic, and
100% acrylic paint will always be more expensive. If you buy the base white
or add a bunch of pigment to it, it's the same cost.

"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
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The idea is that new plaster soaks up paint like a sponge.

It soaks up cheap paint like a sponge. And we're not talking about plaster,
we're talking about drywall.

So, give it some cheap latex rather than spend big bucks for some top
shelf paint. "Primer" is just that, cheap latex. It's not special.

Cheap primer is cheap. And there's usually not much sense in using it.
Good paint has high solids, which is what you want in a drywall primer
anyway. Just put on a couple coats of good paint and forget the primer.

I've had good results with Benjamin Moore although it is expensive.

No it's not. Only expensive BM is expensive. Cheap BM is cheap.

Sherwinn-Williams was very good years ago but we were not pleased with it
when we used it about 10 years ago.

There is no such thing as Sherwin Williams paint. That is a brand. You
don't paint with a brand, you paint with a specific product. You probably
don't have any idea what Sherwin Williams paint you even used.

"Steve Manes" wrote in message
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And that includes some "name brands", like Ralph Lauren's paints.
They made the only red I liked but it took *7* coats to get it
uniform, not including the primer (which I should have tinted... I
usually do). It was the thinnest latex I've ever used.

Some reds will take 4-5 coats no matter what paint you use. Some reds are
almost clear, that's just the way it is.

TURTLE writes:

sheet rock

You must mean gypsum board. "Sheet Rock" is a brand name for a portland
cement board product that hasn't been made for a long time.

Primer Kilz Or Zinsser water base For on areas that do not like
water zinsser bin shallac. Top coat any major brand that will match
color of existing paint. Primers can also be tinted.
S


On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:35:46 -0500, "TURTLE"
wrote:

This is Turtle.

I just got a carpenter to finish a bay window area and there is about area of
about 4 sheet of sheet rock to paint and it has been finished and floated and
new sheet rock.

1] What kind of paint to start with to prime the sheet rock and everything will
be off white?

2] The carpenter recommended condora something paint but I like Benny Moore
type paint but what brand is the one to use?

Thank You in advance !

TURTLE

sheet rock

You must mean gypsum board. "Sheet Rock" is a brand name for a portland
cement board product that hasn't been made for a long time.

Most of us here know what he's talking about.
Saturday must be "nitpicking day" in your neck of the woods.

Rudy

Richard J Kinch wrote:
TURTLE writes:

sheet rock

You must mean gypsum board. "Sheet Rock" is a brand name for a
portland
cement board product that hasn't been made for a long time.

It's still made, it's not made from portland cement but primarily
gypsum, and it's called Sheetrock. Nobody was confused by the
terrapin's term.

http://tinyurl.com/3tsv4

When someone cuts their finger and starts yelling for a Bandaid, do you
say, "Well that's a brand name and we don't have any of those. Would
you like an adhesive bandage instead?" Or do you just go and get the
damn bandaid?

R

RicodJour writes:

It's still made, it's not made from portland cement but primarily
gypsum, and it's called Sheetrock.

The registered trademark goes back to 1917 for cementitious plaster board.
But you're right, USG uses it now for gypsum board. So more of a Kleenex
vs tissue issue.