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tedcat99 April 7th 05 12:23 AM

Painting over Gloss paint with Emulsion
 
Hi Everyone, I have a ceiling in my house which is painted with Gloss
paint and I would like to overpaint it with Silk or Matt emulsion
paint. Is there any way of preparing the surface other than rubbing
it down with sandpaper as I am getting too old for that sort of
exercise!!! Ted


RicodJour April 7th 05 12:58 AM

tedcat99 wrote:
Hi Everyone, I have a ceiling in my house which is painted with Gloss
paint and I would like to overpaint it with Silk or Matt emulsion
paint. Is there any way of preparing the surface other than rubbing
it down with sandpaper as I am getting too old for that sort of
exercise!!! Ted


Hey, Ted. I'm not sure of the available products in your neck of the
woods, but here in the ex-colonies there are a couple of ways to go
about it. One is to use a special primer specifically made to cover
glossy paint and plastic laminates. Fresh Start by Benjamin Moore is
one product. Then just paint with your regular ceiling paint

Another option is to use a liquid deglosser. This can be rubbed on the
existing ceiling paint with a cloth - it cuts into the gloss allowing
the new paint to bite. It's nasty stuff and not much less work than
sanding. You can also use the liquid deglosser as an additive to your
regular ceiling paint. It's not quite as effective, but since a
ceiling receives little in the way or wear (unless you're quite the
bedroom athlete!) it should be fine. Do _not_ let the ceiling paint
splatter in your eyes if you use that stuff!

Or another option just occurred to me. For the cost of airfare and a
couple or three weeks in a nice hotel, use of your car, and beer money
would be nice, too, I might consider popping over to do it for you!

Option three is probably your best bet. ;)

R


tedcat99 April 8th 05 01:11 AM

Thank you Ricodjour for your reply, I wish I could afford option three
but alas no luck. I have trawled the net and found a few references
for Liquid deglosser but no outlets to purchase it. I will call a few
of the more specialised DIY or Hardware outlets in Liverpool GB and
ask if they stock it or know where I can obtain it.
Once again thank you for your reply. Ted.


RicodJour April 8th 05 01:29 AM


tedcat99 wrote:
Thank you Ricodjour for your reply, I wish I could afford option

three
but alas no luck. I have trawled the net and found a few references
for Liquid deglosser but no outlets to purchase it. I will call a few
of the more specialised DIY or Hardware outlets in Liverpool GB and
ask if they stock it or know where I can obtain it.
Once again thank you for your reply. Ted.


Oh, sure! Try and save that buck....errr...pound! Euro? Whatever.
;)

It should be a fairly common item. I don't have a can handy, or I'd
look at the ingredients for you. It's basically a nasty solvent that
eats into the paint and gives it some tooth for the new paint to bite
into. Not sure where this oral fixation came from when we're talking
about paint, but, there you are.

good luck in your hunt

R


RicodJour April 8th 05 02:42 AM

tedcat99 wrote:
Thank you Ricodjour for your reply, I wish I could afford option

three
but alas no luck. I have trawled the net and found a few references
for Liquid deglosser but no outlets to purchase it. I will call a few
of the more specialised DIY or Hardware outlets in Liverpool GB and
ask if they stock it or know where I can obtain it.
Once again thank you for your reply. Ted.


Hey Ted. Try searching for "liquid sandpaper" - that's the name you
wacky UKers call it.

R


m Ransley April 8th 05 02:44 AM

Deglosser is a nasty mix of chemicals , if it is latex paint light
sanding and proper primer for gloss is all that is needed, If oil paint
sand well and prime in oil. Deglosser is as bad as breathing laquer
thinner from the can, I believe Zylene and Toluene-Tylol are main
components. I won`t use it., definatly on the not to be exposed to list.


tedcat99 April 21st 05 03:00 AM

Thank you ricodjour and m ransley for your help. I have at last found
the product called Easy Sand made by International Paints. It is
available in B&Q stores in GB. I have'nt used it yet but it
should do the job.
Once again thanks fot your help. Ted



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