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Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 01:04 AM


"Matt" wrote in message
ups.com...
Maybe if HVAC was a place to help people learn, I would do just that.

http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm

I've a feeling it's now headed in that direction.

You could help, or you can hurl insults.

Me, Im done with the insults. Took a long time, but I've released the
hate.



Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 01:05 AM


"Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...
cool, thanks man.

ALl I wnated to do was sell a thermostat, and the paulie club jumped
me.


http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm

NO ADVERTISING ALLOWED


If nothing else, I took away PJs power to erase the truth.

He can spread his hate and insults if he feels like it, but he can no
longer delete the thoughts of others.

Major loss in power for him, IMO.


Not even close...


Now its up to all the people to change the group... not just one or 2.


Wont happen.


I ask you for your hepl, and I apologize for the past insults I've
hurled at you.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:15 AM

Must suck for you that you lost your day job over your Usenet
abuse there, Matty.

Are you enjoying your little conversation with yourself over
here ?

Moron plumber.


On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:00:56 GMT, "Matt Morgan"
wrote:



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:20 AM

On 1 Apr 2005 13:35:29 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Good..I am not here


Not as much as roadrunner loved the 500 complaints about PJM's illegal
cancel bot that got him banned.


Banned from what, you little troll ? In your dreams,
maybe ...

But to answer your question - yes, my
ISP called and said they thanked me for spreading the info needed to
clean up internet trash.


Yeh, uh huh. Right.


Wait..its Friday..they wont get the mails till Monday...


What'd you do, uuse snail mail, moron


Yeah, I forgot the internet shuts down on Sat/Sun.


No, that's your brain, asshole. Just like the rest of the
week.



Lots of time to get you to continue going postal, and then, it will be


silent...no more you.


Yes, as you will be banned, just like PJM is.


Yeh, just like me, that's why this post isn't really here,
I've been 'banned'.



Lots of time to get you to continue going postal, and then, it will be
silent...no more you.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:24 AM

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:10:54 GMT, "Gideon" wrote:

Matt,

I'll attempt to help - especially if you promise to keep your posts
a bit smaller here and if you'll admit that some of us homeowners
know the difference between our butts and a hole in the ground.
Not all "amateurs" are hacks. :)

It is very sad that alt.hvac has become such a cesspool. I hope
you can be instrumental in cleaning it up.


He's an out of work plumber, moron. and the only way he
cleans cesspools is to suck them out with his mouth. Then he reposts
it here. You'll see, give him time. You wanna see 'cesspool' ?
Matt's gonna show you a whole new meaning to it.

I have lurked there for
ages and I have posted a few comments there, but I avoid it a lot
lately because it has become one of the most immature newsgroup
on the net recently. It is the absolute worst possible advertisement
for the HVAC industry.


It's not an advertisement for anything. Not supposed to be.

Is it possible for you to post a brief summary of what is going on
with that newsgroup?


Matt go firde from his day job, then he got bitch-slapped a
bunch more times, and now he's out of work and drunk.

Next question.

I am very computer literate, but I don't
understand how anybody except a newsgroup moderate can cancel
messages.


Then you're not 'literate' at all, in fact, you're a ****ing
clueless luser.

I also don't know if there are 100 buttheads out there
or just a few posting under various usernames. A brief history of
that newsgroup and how it has degraded would be extremely
helpful.

I feel that this is a legitimate discussion on alt.home.repair because
many of us get AC/heating advice on both newsgroups - posting and
lurking here plus cautiously lurking over on alt.hvac.

Thanks for your efforts to preserve a potentially useful newsgroup,
Gideon


Get real.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:27 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 14:13:55 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Sure man.

First, re your first para: so admtted, and a sincere fapology or my
past behavior/comments.


Until the next time you get drunk and go on a spew tantrum.

For a while I wanted to be in the PJM club, and I have no idea why.

As far as the cancelling:

Like anything else on the net, everything is run under a protocol.
Usenet is very siimilar to email, and thus can be hacked.


You don't have clue # 1 how either protocol works. You don't
even know their correct names.

Usenet was also built with the ability to cancl posts; so that you
could "take something back".

What hte person was doing was forging the header to make it look like
he posted it, and then sent the cancel sequence.

Fortunately, htere is a way to stop this, simply by posting in:
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet

Literally, I posted there and within minutes, a gentleman named Howard
Knight was on the case and solved the problem quickly.

The abuser (Paul Milligan) was quickly dressed down, as well.


yeh, right.


See, the thread titled " Cancel " REPOST: PJM", for details,
pay partuiculr attention to the posts from Howard.

Also, if you get some time, read :
http://www.killfile.org/faqs/c*ancel.html, or google "cancelbot".

Thank you for your thank you.

I think I've done a pretty good job of breaking up the hate group, and
others who really want to contribute are beginning to step forward.


You've done a good job of making an asshole out of your self,
moron. That's ALL you've done.


Finally, cancelbot users (other than using them for spam, and few
other valid reasons) are looked upon in asimilar fashion as child
molesters are in prison, by the usenet admins. If someone cancels your
posts - there are people who will help.


Oh, I tremble ....



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:27 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 14:16:50 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Yep.

I strongly feel we can clean it up though.


You couldn't clean your own butthole.


One idea I had was that when a user posts a question there and gets
abused, then a few thousand posters from here jump in over there to
help out.


Asshole.


Could turn out to be a useless flamewar, or could teach the scummy ones
over there that their behavior is no longer tolerated.

In essence, alt.hvac could be made an extension of this group.


Probably not likely, but hey, I can dream, can't I?


You can get back on your meds is what you can do, moron.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:28 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 14:29:08 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Maybe if HVAC was a place to help people learn, I would do just that.

I've a feeling it's now headed in that direction.


I hvae a feeling you're headed to a visit to the loony ward.


You could help, or you can hurl insults.

Me, Im done with the insults. Took a long time, but I've released the
hate.


Yeh, sure you have. Asshole.

'Took a long time', you little putz ? It was just this week I
got your ass fired.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:29 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 14:57:05 -0800, "Mark" wrote:


I have a suggestion.

I too tried to get a question answered at alt.hvac and was dressed down
for not being a "pro".

OK fine.

If the "pros" want a place to hang out, fine....why not get another
groupd started called alt.hvac.pros.only.no.homeowners.allowed or
something like that and the "pros" can sit there and do whatever they
want to do.


Wy not start one called 'alt.matt's.a.****ing.moron ? Then
you and all your alter-egos can talk to each other.




While the rest of the world can use alt.hvac as it should be used to
help each other.

Mark



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:30 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 15:19:45 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Agree.

Problem is PJ thinks he owns it. Even though he refuses to make a
charter or even a FAQ. Truth is he is so full of hatehe LOVES a place
where he can hurl his supposed insults, rather than help anyone in
need.

He wont leave, neither will his minions.


My minions are fully paid up until the end of the year.


Also, there are people there who want to help - but whenever they try,
one of PJ's rat pack slams em..... however... as I said... I think the
bozo (pjm) behind the curtain has been exposed now, and the good people
are standing up.

I suggest if we work together..... we can change that group to
something valuable.

But only if we do it together will it work.


Only if you find something really really tall and jump off it.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:31 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 15:23:43 -0800, "Mark" wrote:

so let him keep that one and we start another one.,...

alt.hvac.homeowners

the net is plenty big for everyone...

Mark


Fine. Cool. Don't you just wish you knew how to do that ???

But you don't. I could do it right now, but I won't. Because
your'e a moron.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:32 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 15:25:48 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Works for me man.
How to start?

I have NO IDEA how to set up a usenet group.


You have no idea how to wipe your own ass after you take a
****, how in the world would you know how to start a newsgroup ?

Here's a hint for you - morons like you don't do it.

Either one.



Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 01:32 AM


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:10:54 GMT, "Gideon" wrote:

Matt,

I'll attempt to help - especially if you promise to keep your posts
a bit smaller here and if you'll admit that some of us homeowners
know the difference between our butts and a hole in the ground.
Not all "amateurs" are hacks. :)


Depends on the situation, in some states like mine, they are felons.
Its a felony for a non-licenced person to install a unit here...altho plenty
do....and plenty go to jail too.
Each month, the licence agency lists who they have charged.



It is very sad that alt.hvac has become such a cesspool. I hope
you can be instrumental in cleaning it up.


He's an out of work plumber, moron. and the only way he
cleans cesspools is to suck them out with his mouth. Then he reposts
it here. You'll see, give him time. You wanna see 'cesspool' ?
Matt's gonna show you a whole new meaning to it.



What WAS the number for the place he worked?
LOL



I have lurked there for
ages and I have posted a few comments there, but I avoid it a lot
lately because it has become one of the most immature newsgroup
on the net recently. It is the absolute worst possible advertisement
for the HVAC industry.


It's not an advertisement for anything. Not supposed to be.


Sigh....READ THE FAQ
http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm


Is it possible for you to post a brief summary of what is going on
with that newsgroup?


Matt go firde from his day job, then he got bitch-slapped a
bunch more times, and now he's out of work and drunk.


Matt broke the FAQ, and we responded in kind
he cried about it and went postal...


Next question.

I am very computer literate, but I don't
understand how anybody except a newsgroup moderate can cancel
messages.


Then you're not 'literate' at all, in fact, you're a ****ing
clueless luser.

I also don't know if there are 100 buttheads out there
or just a few posting under various usernames. A brief history of
that newsgroup and how it has degraded would be extremely
helpful.

I feel that this is a legitimate discussion on alt.home.repair because
many of us get AC/heating advice on both newsgroups - posting and
lurking here plus cautiously lurking over on alt.hvac.


There is a reason that some of those of us that are in alt.hvac post here..
READ THE FAQ
http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm
Thanks for your efforts to preserve a potentially useful newsgroup,
Gideon


Get real.


No kiddin...how many times has this been tried over the years since you
started the group Paul?




pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:33 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 15:38:56 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

PS

Im happpy to figure it out, if anyone wnats me to.

But Ill need some help.


You'll need your meds increased.



Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 01:40 AM


wrote in message
...
On 2 Apr 2005 14:57:05 -0800, "Mark" wrote:


I have a suggestion.

I too tried to get a question answered at alt.hvac and was dressed down
for not being a "pro".

OK fine.

If the "pros" want a place to hang out, fine....why not get another
groupd started called alt.hvac.pros.only.no.homeowners.allowed or
something like that and the "pros" can sit there and do whatever they
want to do.


Wy not start one called 'alt.matt's.a.****ing.moron ? Then
you and all your alter-egos can talk to each other.


What kills me, is Matt has no idea about Usenet, who started Alt.hvac (that
would include Paul here) and why it was started..
Hes cryin and aint even read the FAQ yet..

Has Matt even said over here that he got like 5 sock puppets in alt.hvac and
was a full blown troll that tried to be a twinky?
(doubt that he knows what twinky means.....sad)




While the rest of the world can use alt.hvac as it should be used to
help each other.


Read the FAQ and THEN you understand....

Mark




pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:41 AM

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:32:56 -0500, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:10:54 GMT, "Gideon" wrote:

Matt,

I'll attempt to help - especially if you promise to keep your posts
a bit smaller here and if you'll admit that some of us homeowners
know the difference between our butts and a hole in the ground.
Not all "amateurs" are hacks. :)


Depends on the situation, in some states like mine, they are felons.
Its a felony for a non-licenced person to install a unit here...altho plenty
do....and plenty go to jail too.
Each month, the licence agency lists who they have charged.



It is very sad that alt.hvac has become such a cesspool. I hope
you can be instrumental in cleaning it up.


He's an out of work plumber, moron. and the only way he
cleans cesspools is to suck them out with his mouth. Then he reposts
it here. You'll see, give him time. You wanna see 'cesspool' ?
Matt's gonna show you a whole new meaning to it.



What WAS the number for the place he worked?
LOL



I have lurked there for
ages and I have posted a few comments there, but I avoid it a lot
lately because it has become one of the most immature newsgroup
on the net recently. It is the absolute worst possible advertisement
for the HVAC industry.


It's not an advertisement for anything. Not supposed to be.


Sigh....READ THE FAQ
http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm


Is it possible for you to post a brief summary of what is going on
with that newsgroup?


Matt go firde from his day job, then he got bitch-slapped a
bunch more times, and now he's out of work and drunk.


Matt broke the FAQ, and we responded in kind
he cried about it and went postal...


Next question.

I am very computer literate, but I don't
understand how anybody except a newsgroup moderate can cancel
messages.


Then you're not 'literate' at all, in fact, you're a ****ing
clueless luser.

I also don't know if there are 100 buttheads out there
or just a few posting under various usernames. A brief history of
that newsgroup and how it has degraded would be extremely
helpful.

I feel that this is a legitimate discussion on alt.home.repair because
many of us get AC/heating advice on both newsgroups - posting and
lurking here plus cautiously lurking over on alt.hvac.


There is a reason that some of those of us that are in alt.hvac post here..
READ THE FAQ
http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm
Thanks for your efforts to preserve a potentially useful newsgroup,
Gideon


Get real.


No kiddin...how many times has this been tried over the years since you
started the group Paul?



Couldn't even guess. This one sure reminds me of
popsuckerstuck, don't he ? I wonder if they're related.

OH, I just realized - don't read this post, it's not really
here because I've been 'banned' :-)




Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 01:41 AM


wrote in message
...
On 2 Apr 2005 15:23:43 -0800, "Mark" wrote:

so let him keep that one and we start another one.,...

alt.hvac.homeowners

the net is plenty big for everyone...

Mark


Fine. Cool. Don't you just wish you knew how to do that ???

But you don't. I could do it right now, but I won't. Because
your'e a moron.



Actually Paul, alt.homeowners.hvac.moderated isnt a bad idea....
I dare ya....:)


pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:44 AM

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:40:24 -0500, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On 2 Apr 2005 14:57:05 -0800, "Mark" wrote:


I have a suggestion.

I too tried to get a question answered at alt.hvac and was dressed down
for not being a "pro".

OK fine.

If the "pros" want a place to hang out, fine....why not get another
groupd started called alt.hvac.pros.only.no.homeowners.allowed or
something like that and the "pros" can sit there and do whatever they
want to do.


Wy not start one called 'alt.matt's.a.****ing.moron ? Then
you and all your alter-egos can talk to each other.


What kills me, is Matt has no idea about Usenet, who started Alt.hvac (that
would include Paul here) and why it was started..
Hes cryin and aint even read the FAQ yet..


Which, funny enough, I wrote ten years ago ;-)


Has Matt even said over here that he got like 5 sock puppets in alt.hvac and
was a full blown troll that tried to be a twinky?
(doubt that he knows what twinky means.....sad)




While the rest of the world can use alt.hvac as it should be used to
help each other.


Read the FAQ and THEN you understand....

Mark




pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 01:45 AM

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:41:28 -0500, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On 2 Apr 2005 15:23:43 -0800, "Mark" wrote:

so let him keep that one and we start another one.,...

alt.hvac.homeowners

the net is plenty big for everyone...

Mark


Fine. Cool. Don't you just wish you knew how to do that ???

But you don't. I could do it right now, but I won't. Because
your'e a moron.



Actually Paul, alt.homeowners.hvac.moderated isnt a bad idea....
I dare ya....:)


Sorry, I don't do residential work :-)



Matt April 3rd 05 02:47 AM

Funny Paul -

Yestreday I was boring, and not worthy of convo with you.

You claimed to have plonked me.

Now...........


I'm an obsession for you.

Face it Paul

Your game is done.


Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 02:50 AM


"Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...
Funny Paul -

Yestreday I was boring, and not worthy of convo with you.

You claimed to have plonked me.


he did moron, I mailed him, AND posted in the old group about your posting
here..

We are all sitting around having a good time at your expense...

Deal with it, and move on.


Now...........


I'm an obsession for you.


Nah...you dont know enough about usenet to understand what you are to us.


Face it Paul

Your game is done.


LOL..son, if you knew anything about Usenet, you would realize no ones
started to play with you yet.

Tell ya what, you need to get with a few guys that can tell you about some
things and people that sounded just like you....EXACTLY like you as a matter
of fact that are no longer posting anymore..:)





Matt April 3rd 05 02:50 AM

ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................. .........


Matt April 3rd 05 02:51 AM

You just slammed your buddy Steve, Pawlie..... better figure out how to
read usenet posts.


pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 02:55 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 17:47:56 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

Funny Paul -

Yestreday I was boring, and not worthy of convo with you.

You claimed to have plonked me.

Now...........


I'm an obsession for you.

Face it Paul

Your game is done.


yeh, I'm right worried about it. You're so big and bad ......
but I got your sorry ass fired from your day job, and now all you hvae
to to all day is troll. Moron.

BTW - seeing as 'You got Paul banned', how exactly is it that
I can post this, from exactly the same account I've had for years and
years ????

liar. Asshole. Luser. Fool. Drunk.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 02:57 AM

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:50:00 -0500, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:


"Matt" wrote in message
roups.com...
Funny Paul -

Yestreday I was boring, and not worthy of convo with you.

You claimed to have plonked me.


he did moron, I mailed him, AND posted in the old group about your posting
here..

We are all sitting around having a good time at your expense...

Deal with it, and move on.


Now...........


I'm an obsession for you.


Nah...you dont know enough about usenet to understand what you are to us.


He needs to go look up 'entomology ' to really understand it.



Face it Paul

Your game is done.


LOL..son, if you knew anything about Usenet, you would realize no ones
started to play with you yet.

Tell ya what, you need to get with a few guys that can tell you about some
things and people that sounded just like you....EXACTLY like you as a matter
of fact that are no longer posting anymore..:)





Matt April 3rd 05 03:00 AM

The way you follow me around is amusing, Paul.

I thought I was boring?

WHat, the fact that theusenet admins halted your illegal, abusive
habits bother you?

I can't help you there.... but I do forgive you for all the damage you
have caused.

I hope you can come to grips with yourself, and find some meaining in
life.

Your friend -

Matt


Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 03:05 AM


"Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...
The way you follow me around is amusing, Paul.

I thought I was boring?

WHat, the fact that theusenet admins halted your illegal, abusive
habits bother you?


Illegal....LOL...
Illegal was the comment you made, but thats ok...I forgive ya.


I can't help you there.... but I do forgive you for all the damage you
have caused.


its ok...you brought it on yourself..
READ THE FAQ
http://home.att.net/~alt.hvac/default.htm



I hope you can come to grips with yourself, and find some meaining in
life.

Your friend -

Matt



Matt April 3rd 05 03:07 AM

I forgive you as well, Steve.

Your friend,
Matt


pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 03:07 AM

On 2 Apr 2005 18:00:15 -0800, "Matt" wrote:

The way you follow me around is amusing, Paul.

I thought I was boring?

WHat, the fact that theusenet admins halted your illegal, abusive
habits bother you?

I can't help you there.... but I do forgive you for all the damage you
have caused.


Like you losing your job ? Oh, dear, that must sting .....


I hope you can come to grips with yourself, and find some meaining in
life.

Your friend -

Matt


You can be 'my friend' right after you **** off and die,
asshole. Not until then.

Tell me one thing - seeing as "...you got me banned" - how is
it that I can post here from the same account as always and tell you
what an asshole you are ????

You're right about one thing, though - you're boring.

Now that this forum understands fully what a liar you are, and
what a complete moron, my work here is done :-)



Matt April 3rd 05 03:09 AM

Then why keep posting?

Do you have something to prove? Your words have already clarified your
personality, thoughts, and goals.

I still forgive you, Paul.

Your friend,

Matt


the Truth Squad April 3rd 05 03:49 AM

Apparently Matt hasn't met Dave the HVAC hack.....otherwise known as
the child molesting pervo...Quit ya bitchin uinless you like sheep too,
they maybe the two of you have something in common after all


Matt April 3rd 05 03:54 AM

Thank you. We will keep that in mind.

Your comments are most appreciated, and we would look forward to more
of your unique viewpoint(s).


Your friend,

Matt


m Ransley April 3rd 05 12:56 PM

Hey PJM and Matt this is not alt hvac where 50 imature depressing
childish bulk post make you respected or get your point across clearer
or your individual playground .

Say your insults in ONE post.

Both of you are trashing this group, take it any where but here. Pjm
you made and kept the standard at alt hvac keep it there.


the Truth Squad April 3rd 05 04:41 PM

Hey Man.

Dave's not here


GFRfan April 3rd 05 08:14 PM

Matt wrote:
Sure man.

First, re your first para: so admtted, and a sincere fapology or my
past behavior/comments.
For a while I wanted to be in the PJM club, and I have no idea why.

Look. I agree that it is a cesspool over there and I have no inclination
to even go there. I guess I just don't have the time.
But what you are saying is that you would be doing the same as PJM if
they would have just accepted you and not nailed you?

Matt April 3rd 05 08:21 PM

Yep.

I DID THE SAME! For about 2 months, I was a junior member of the PJM
minion club.

I insulted everyone, especially turtle.

I wanted to be a member of the PJM hates everyone club. Don't ask me
why, I don't really know.

I'm trying to change my behavior.

The firststep being getting PJM banned from his ISP, and asking the
net.abuse folks to stop him cancelling others' posts.

Which they did.

My goal there was to at least allow people to post in alt.hvac without
their posts being deleted.

My goal in getting PJMs ISP account cancelled was simply that he
violated usenet policy; which is a violation of roadrunners TOS, and so
- he asked for it.

Basically, IMO - someone needed to stand up to him, and althou hundreds
have tried, I thought I would try as well.


Steve@carolinabreezehvac April 3rd 05 08:31 PM

Ok...gonna be nice....I swear...

"Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yep.

I DID THE SAME! For about 2 months, I was a junior member of the PJM
minion club.

I insulted everyone, especially turtle.


You did. You also broke the known FAQ.


I wanted to be a member of the PJM hates everyone club. Don't ask me
why, I don't really know.


Umm...its not a Paul hates everyone club..its called getting tired of the
same old questions when the correct area to ask is here.
That and trying to get Terry (turtle) to stop being such a backwoods hack.


I'm trying to change my behavior.


You got spanked. You are trying to look like NOT the bad guy.


The firststep being getting PJM banned from his ISP, and asking the
net.abuse folks to stop him cancelling others' posts.


You NEVER got Paul banned.
Please, if you are going to brag, please, at least get your facts clear.
Paul and I have talked at length about you, and at NO TIME was he banned. If
he was, it was for a VERY short period of time, like...30 seconds, because
the entire time you tried to ruin the group he and I were working on
something that wasnt related to you, and at no time did I lose connection to
his server, or his system. his mail worked fine, and he was posting even
though you said he could not..
Just for curiousitys sake, I would love to know why you think he was banned,
and why you continue to say you got him banned, when you didnt.


Which they did.


You called in an old buddy of his...who is nothing more than a free speech
nut...period.
He would allow you to continue your off topic crap if he thought it would
help him....not you.


My goal there was to at least allow people to post in alt.hvac without
their posts being deleted.


Well...hell..all you had to do was ask...thats not going to stop anything..


My goal in getting PJMs ISP account cancelled was simply that he
violated usenet policy; which is a violation of roadrunners TOS, and so
- he asked for it.


Again...it was NEVER canceled.
Post facts, fine, but dont lie to forward your own childish goals...and read
the FAQ and admit you were out of line. Period.


Basically, IMO - someone needed to stand up to him, and althou hundreds
have tried, I thought I would try as well.


And you failed like the 300 before you.

Now be a nice guy, and stop trying to make THIS group the same as you did
over there. Use your ignore feature, use your brain and pass over those that
you know you wont like....but this is NOT the place for this, nor was
alt.hvac. You are the one that made a mistake, and got personal about it.
All anyone is doing now, is letting the facts be heard, since you are not
forthcoming with them, other than a bunch of look at me, look what I want
you to think I did crap.
I wont appologize for anything. You got out of line, you lied, you cried,
and you broke alot of rules and accepted policy. Now, you want to be the
hero, by being the bad guy.

THATS the facts. Now, kindly move on with this, and either add something of
value to either of the groups, or lurk, but you are going to cause more
trouble than you are going to solve.




Matt April 3rd 05 08:36 PM

Thanks Steve.

I'll give it a try.


pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 09:53 PM

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 06:56:28 -0500, (m Ransley)
wrote:

Hey PJM and Matt this is not alt hvac where 50 imature depressing
childish bulk post make you respected or get your point across clearer
or your individual playground .

Say your insults in ONE post.

Both of you are trashing this group, take it any where but here. Pjm
you made and kept the standard at alt hvac keep it there.


GO **** yourself, asshole.



pjm@see_my_sig_for_address.com April 3rd 05 10:01 PM

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:31:14 -0400, "Steve@carolinabreezehvac"
wrote:

Ok...gonna be nice....I swear...

"Matt" wrote in message
roups.com...


The firststep being getting PJM banned from his ISP, and asking the
net.abuse folks to stop him cancelling others' posts.


You NEVER got Paul banned.


HELL NO ! Not in this lifetime ...

Please, if you are going to brag, please, at least get your facts clear.
Paul and I have talked at length about you, and at NO TIME was he banned. If
he was, it was for a VERY short period of time, like...30 seconds,


Not even 30 **Ms**. Never. None. Not at all. Zero. Not
even close. Never happened, period. Matt's lies aside, it never
happened. Not even a hint of it, not even a whisper, except in Matt's
fantasy after I got him fired from his day job as a plumber's helper;.

because
the entire time you tried to ruin the group he and I were working on
something that wasnt related to you, and at no time did I lose connection to
his server, or his system. his mail worked fine, and he was posting even
though you said he could not..


Yep. 100 % of the time, any damned time I felt like it, 365 &
1/4 , /24/7.

Just for curiousitys sake, I would love to know why you think he was banned,
and why you continue to say you got him banned, when you didnt.


And why he thinks he ****ed Britney Spears, too.

Anbd how long did it his mommy to change the sheets.

My goal in getting PJMs ISP account cancelled


Which never happened, you ****ing moronic pussy. Not even so
much as a phone call or an email from them. Deal with it, asshole.
While you look for a job.




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