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Santa November 2nd 04 03:08 AM

Is it worth to buy old home and dismantle it and construct a new home?
 
We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.

D. Gerasimatos November 2nd 04 06:23 AM

In article ,
Santa wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.



You really think you can have a house built for $100K?! Send your builder
my way!


Dimitri


Alan Sung November 2nd 04 11:49 AM

"Santa" wrote in message
om...
We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home.


The city or town would be helpful and whether or not there are some specific
attributes of the lot you want, i.e. waterfront, view, privacy, etc.

I think your cost figures are way off. Don't forget to add the cost of
demolition and rubbish removal.

-al sung
Rapid Realm Technology, Inc.
Hopkinton, MA



FC November 2nd 04 02:43 PM

Santa wrote:
We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.


Cheaper compare to what? If everything else being equal, assuming build
a new house cost you $X then build a new house over an existing one will
cost you $X + $Y. For $Y being the price for the existing house minus
the cost for the land plus demolition of existing house associated cost.

Replacing an existing house only make sense when the location of the new
house is of top priority and you are willing to pay the additional $Y to
get it.

FC

John A. Weeks III November 2nd 04 03:30 PM

In article , Santa
wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.


You need to do the math. In this option, you are spending about
$530,000 for a 4 bedroom house. How much will this house sell for
when it is done? If that number is less than $530K, then it
doesn't make sense. What is the cost of building this 4 bedroom
house somewhere else? What is the cost of buying an existing
4 bedroom house that meets your needs? It is hard to answer
your question without these basic facts. Please go do some
research and post back again.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708
Newave Communications
http://www.johnweeks.com
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Doug Miller November 2nd 04 04:44 PM

In article , "John A. Weeks III" wrote:
In article , Santa
wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.


You're asking if it makes sense to pay $530K for a $100K house.

You tell me. Does it?

You need to do the math. In this option, you are spending about
$530,000 for a 4 bedroom house. How much will this house sell for
when it is done? If that number is less than $530K, then it
doesn't make sense.


*Obviously* that number will be *much* less than $530K -- if the home that the
builder would build is worth more than that, the builder surely isn't going to
charge only $100K for it.

What is the cost of building this 4 bedroom
house somewhere else? What is the cost of buying an existing
4 bedroom house that meets your needs? It is hard to answer
your question without these basic facts. Please go do some
research and post back again.


Don't be silly. All the facts needed are right there.

veteran November 2nd 04 04:59 PM

In article ,
(Santa) wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.


what the smart people do. Is buy a house that maybe needs repair, cheap.
and replace all but one quarter of it . maybe slowly.
this avoids a new bldg permit and any challenges to the present laws.
Zoning, setbacks & requirements the gummint might cook up.
but, carpenters hate to work on old construction. Hidden nails can
wreck tools. Better for do it yourselfers.
DIY is a great way to save $$$.
good luck,
oh yes, think micro-climate when decideing on a site. Solar is
some-thing difficult to "add" later.
Patriotism is supporting your country all
the time and the government when it deserves it.
-Mark Twain

Charles Spitzer November 2nd 04 05:23 PM


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
m...
In article , "John A. Weeks III"
wrote:
In article , Santa
wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.


You're asking if it makes sense to pay $530K for a $100K house.

You tell me. Does it?

You need to do the math. In this option, you are spending about
$530,000 for a 4 bedroom house. How much will this house sell for
when it is done? If that number is less than $530K, then it
doesn't make sense.


yes, if the property is worth, or will be worth in a short while, a million

*Obviously* that number will be *much* less than $530K -- if the home that
the
builder would build is worth more than that, the builder surely isn't
going to
charge only $100K for it.

What is the cost of building this 4 bedroom
house somewhere else? What is the cost of buying an existing
4 bedroom house that meets your needs? It is hard to answer
your question without these basic facts. Please go do some
research and post back again.


Don't be silly. All the facts needed are right there.




v November 2nd 04 06:58 PM

On 1 Nov 2004 19:08:32 -0800, someone wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K,


Only if empty lots cost more than $400k in that area.

Is American English not your primary language? Because I'm afraid
something is not being communicated right here.

-v.

v November 2nd 04 07:00 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:49:15 GMT, someone wrote:


The city or town would be helpful and whether or not there are some specific
attributes of the lot you want, i.e. waterfront, view, privacy, etc.

Huh???? How/why would the city or town pick a lot for him and decide
if the lot had sufficient waterfront, view, privacy, etc.??? Why
should he call upon the government for this, its his own decision.

-v.

v November 2nd 04 07:06 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 16:44:33 GMT, someone wrote:


Don't be silly. All the facts needed are right there.


Technically, no they are not. The price of a lot in that neighborhood
isn't posted. If a lot costs much more than $400k than he is ahead.

Now maybe there are no empty lots, so the only way to get that
location is to buy existing & demolish. And as OP states he wants a
"custom" home, strictly speaking the price of existing homes isn't
determinative as he doesn't want one of them. However, I too am
awfully skeptical as to why one would pay $400k plus the price of
demolition, to get a site for only a $100k house.

Buy & demol does exist - but usually to acquire sites for much higher
priced replacement homes. This thing about what the Realtor
supposedly said, doesn't make too much sense to me - cheaper than
WHAT??? Maybe OP made a mistake somewhere, either in what he posted,
or what he understood he was being told.

-v.

v November 2nd 04 07:08 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:59:42 -0800, someone wrote:

what the smart people do. Is buy a house that maybe needs repair, cheap.
and replace all but one quarter of it . maybe slowly.
this avoids a new bldg permit


BULL****.

You aint as smart as you think you are.

(Old, Depression era saying: "If you're so smart, why aint you rich?")

v November 2nd 04 07:11 PM

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:59:42 -0800, someone wrote:


this avoids a new bldg permit


Maybe it avoids a permit for a new building, but it won't avoid a new
permit for renovation work.

Common Q on disclosure forms: "Has any work been done on the property
for which a permit was not obtained?". Great answer: "Yeah, we
replaced 75% of the house".

v November 2nd 04 07:12 PM

On 1 Nov 2004 19:08:32 -0800, someone wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor,


Is this the same "santa" that has been milling around here for a long
long time, all talk and hasn't bought a house yet????

Bill November 2nd 04 07:23 PM

I've seen this done where there may be *one* old falling to pieces home in
a nice area and you are basically paying the price for the lot. (Makes
financial sense.)

Or where two or three homes are demolished for an apartment complex or
higher density housing. (Makes financial sense.)

Then there is the "I want that location, but I don't want that house and I
have plenty of money to spend" decision. I have seen this done in upscale
areas. They will come in and demolish a perfectly good condition home with
nice landscaping, then tear out all the landscaping. Then build a custom
home and bring in new already grown landscaping. Were talking 75 ft. high
trees brought in on a semi. After they are done, it looks like the home has
been there for 30 years!

Before doing this, be sure to check out the local zoning, set-backs, etc.
You may not be able to build a new home as close to the property line or
whatever. Things may have changed from when the home was first built. Also
check with utilities to be sure you will be able to get what you will need.
Water, electricity, phone (can you get DSL?), natural gas, cable TV, etc.
In some situations it might be a problem getting a 200 amp electric service
or perhaps enough water pressure to water a big lawn. Best to check out
everything before buying. Is the old house on septic? Will you need to
connect to city sewer? Does a sewer run in the street or will you need an
easement? Will you have to pay $40,000 for the city to run a sewer to the
front of your home, etc.



Karl Kingston November 2nd 04 08:28 PM

In article ,
v wrote:
On 1 Nov 2004 19:08:32 -0800, someone wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor,


Is this the same "santa" that has been milling around here for a long
long time, all talk and hasn't bought a house yet????


Looks like it, v. Dig up some of his old posts if you can and you'll find
the questions he's asked seem to be similar.


John A. Weeks III November 2nd 04 08:59 PM

In article , D. Gerasimatos
wrote:

In article ,
Santa wrote:

We wanted to build custom home, I approached a realtor, she says, buy
a old home and dismantle it and construct a new home. This way I can
get it cheaper. The old home costs around $400K, plus the builder cost
for constructing a 4-bed room is around $100K, plus around $30K for
town planning. Does it makes sense?. Thanks in advance.



You really think you can have a house built for $100K?! Send your builder
my way!


If you are thinking of just the house, no land, no utilities, etc,
$100K can build you a small mansion. I see factory-built ranch
homes available at dealers in this area for $39,000, and they meet
the stage 2 energy code here in Minnesota. If you want a stick-built
home package with land, utilities, driveway, etc all ready to move
in, you can find those in the midwest for $100K to $150K, the lower
price for a 2-bedroom 900 sq foot house, and the upper side for a
4 bedroom, 2200 sq foot, with deck and fireplace.

-john-

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================================================== ==================
John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708
Newave Communications
http://www.johnweeks.com
================================================== ==================

Alan Sung November 3rd 04 04:40 PM

"v" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:49:15 GMT, someone wrote:


The city or town would be helpful and whether or not there are some

specific
attributes of the lot you want, i.e. waterfront, view, privacy, etc.

Huh???? How/why would the city or town pick a lot for him and decide
if the lot had sufficient waterfront, view, privacy, etc.??? Why
should he call upon the government for this, its his own decision.

-v.


In order for people to answer his question, it would be useful to know where
this property is and if the property he is looking for has any unique
attributes. This has nothing to do with any government.

-al sung



Santa November 4th 04 01:26 PM

Well, the new home costs around $700K to $850K in the area where I saw
home, that is why my realtor suggested to but old home around $400K
and dismantle it and rebuid the new one. The builder fee is around
$100K and town planning charges around $30K. I don't know what else
could cost.

Alan Sung November 4th 04 03:45 PM

"Santa" wrote in message
om...
Well, the new home costs around $700K to $850K in the area where I saw
home, that is why my realtor suggested to but old home around $400K
and dismantle it and rebuid the new one. The builder fee is around
$100K and town planning charges around $30K. I don't know what else
could cost.


Give us some more details. Where is this located? What kind of house do you
intend to build? How big a house? Does it have access to public sewer or is
it a private septic? Public water or private well? Would you be using the
existing foundation?

Additional costs:
- demolition and debris removal
- potential upgrade to utilities to come up to code
- re-landscaping the yard after construction
- all the costs associated with buying a brand new house:
lighting fixtures, flooring, towel racks, toilet paper holders,
appliances, plumbing fixtures, window shades/treatments, etc.

-al sung
Rapid Realm Technology, Inc.
Hopkinton, MA




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