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![]() wrote in message ... A member of my family is having a new home built. The basement has been poured (it has poured walls) and they are waiting for the walls to fully "set." Well, yesterday it rained, and what we observed was that the entire basement floor appeared to be covered with a significant amount of water (a piece of electric wire laying on the floor was completely submerged), EXCEPT for the corner where the sump hole is. I then recalled that the side of the basement where the sump is was the part that the concrete finisher did last (it is the side by the egress window) and therefore, if there was a small bit of extra concrete, that was likely where it wound up. In any case, it appears we have a situation where as much as an inch of water at the far end (give or take a little) would have to run UPHILL to reach the sump. Now I should also mention that this basement is built on pure sand (literally - there is a sand mine just a mile or so down the road) and drainage is very good, so I don't really expect that there would be too many situations where the basement might flood - but on the other hand, if the unforeseen ever did happen, it would be much easier to deal with the problem if the water naturally ran toward the sump. I should probably also mention that this basement was constructed with extra headroom, so pouring more concrete over the existing floor would be doable (in terms of not losing space). And, the general contractor seems like an honest person, but I'm not sure that he's aware of this problem yet. So I have three questions: 1) Realistically, is this anything to worry about? You have three questions right here, nobody. This one does not warrant "worry." Concern and attention, yes. Or am I concerned over nothing? See above and below. Should I keep my nose out of this? That's up to you. Are you your brother's keeper? If it is your concern, nose on in. If it is not your concern, you can share what advice you choose with your family member. 2) Would this violate any codes or building standards (in other words, is this something a local government building inspector would take an interest in if they knew of the problem? This is in Michigan, if that makes any difference). Perhaps codes, certainly building standards . . . especially the one known as "commonly prevailing in the market." 3) If there is a problem here, what would be the best approach to take with the contractor? Now with four questions! I wish I could pay my bills with your math. First, bring it to the builder's or general contractor's attention in an informative, not accusitorial, way. Should my family member insist that a new layer of concrete be poured that slopes toward the sump, or would that create other problems? You slipped another question in here. No and yes, respecitvely. Would the excellent drainage of the soil indicate just leaving well enough alone? No. If you are a contractor, would you categorize this sort of defect as "serious" or "minor"? I would categorize it is a defect without adding an inflamatory adjective. (A pretty routine defect, sorry to say, and very likely created just as you surmised, as all the grading indicators would have been removed or obliterated by the time the finisher reached that corner.) As a defect, I would correct it to reasonable industry standards. 4) If additional concrete should be poured, is that something that the homeowner would have to bear the expense of, or would that be considered a serious enough flaw that the concrete subcontractor should be required to fix it on his nickel? No and yes, respectively. Neither I nor the family member in question have ever done anything like this before, so I guess what I'm wanting to know is whether this is a significant problem, It is not a problem . . . only a defect and a minor challenge. or something fairly normal? I wouldn't say normal, but I wouldn't say abnormal, either. You know what they say "happens." Well, it does, and you have to wipe. I have a feeling the contractor is not going to think it's anything to be concerned about, and if that is the case, is it worth making a fuss over? No. I have a feeling, also, the contractor is not going to think it is anything to be concerned about, as he knows he will take care of and correct the defect without your concern. Time is of the essence here - You could have left this out. Time is always of the essence. if the situation is going to be rectified, it will be much harder to do so after another week or so. You say so. Why? The quicker the better, I'd say as a general rule, but you say much harder. Let the contractor set his schedule. He has far more scheduling considerations than does a new home buyer (who has plenty without worry over a detail). My advice in one word (your math): Don't sweat it. Be thankful if that is the only "defect" you'll discover or, at least, the worst. (But, somehow, I expect we will hear from you again.) Have your relative speak to the builder or contractor. That is your relative's responsibility (first) on any question or concern. I have one more word for your relative: Relax. Enjoy the building of your new home. It is interesting. Be a partner with the contractor. He is not your enemy. He is, right now, more proud of what he is doing than you are. He wants you to be more proud than he once you have taken posession. I have seen many, many new homeowners worry themselves sick before moving in . . . and for a year thereafter, looking for anything than they might have missed or could go wrong. They have missed, forever, one of the great experiences of life. Count the blessings. They are many in a new home. Defects, like life, are sure to be there. A house, a home, like a life ain't perfect but it is a joy . . . if enjoyed. Jim |
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![]() I have one more word for your relative: Relax. Enjoy the building of your new home. It is interesting. Be a partner with the contractor. He is not your enemy. He is, right now, more proud of what he is doing than you are. He wants you to be more proud than he once you have taken posession. I have seen many, many new homeowners worry themselves sick before moving in . . . and for a year thereafter, looking for anything than they might have missed or could go wrong. They have missed, forever, one of the great experiences of life. Count the blessings. They are many in a new home. Defects, like life, are sure to be there. A house, a home, like a life ain't perfect but it is a joy . . . if enjoyed. Jim That is on the verge of being true poetry. I've never heard it said better. |
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