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Jeff Taylor December 3rd 06 03:41 AM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 
I have a two year old Sears Craftsman (Murray) snow blower with a 7.5 HP
Briggs and Stratton OHV engine. The instructions tell you how to remove
the "snow hood," which is fairly obvious, and what the spark gap should
be. However it doesn't give any hints for actually getting at the spark
plug.

The spark plug is at an angle underneath the snow hood, behind the
carburetor. The rubber wire boot has a rubber extension to pull off.
I've pulled it as hard as a I dare (it stretches as you pull), but I
can't get it off. Unfortunately you just can't get your hands in there
because the spark plug isn't directly under the snow hood access and the
carburetor is in the way.

Does anyone have any advice for removing the rubber boot on these
engines?

Another question, the engine seems to run better with one click of
choke. The unit has had so little use (it's only used for at most 45
minutes for a snow storm, and we only have had so many of those) that
I'm surprised by that, usually needing choke is caused by junk build-up
in the carb. Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


[email protected] December 3rd 06 03:13 PM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 

Jeff Taylor wrote:
I have a two year old Sears Craftsman (Murray) snow blower with a 7.5 HP
Briggs and Stratton OHV engine. The instructions tell you how to remove
the "snow hood," which is fairly obvious, and what the spark gap should
be. However it doesn't give any hints for actually getting at the spark
plug.

The spark plug is at an angle underneath the snow hood, behind the
carburetor. The rubber wire boot has a rubber extension to pull off.
I've pulled it as hard as a I dare (it stretches as you pull), but I
can't get it off. Unfortunately you just can't get your hands in there
because the spark plug isn't directly under the snow hood access and the
carburetor is in the way.

Does anyone have any advice for removing the rubber boot on these
engines?


I think you just need to dare more, ie pull harder, while rotating it
slightly, if possible. It's normal for these to sometimes stretch,
but every one I've seen eventually pops off. If you have to, you can
use pliers, but grab it as high up as possible, as you risk cracking
the insulator. But, worse case, you're gonna put a new plug in
anyhow.




Another question, the engine seems to run better with one click of
choke. The unit has had so little use (it's only used for at most 45
minutes for a snow storm, and we only have had so many of those) that
I'm surprised by that, usually needing choke is caused by junk build-up
in the carb. Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Not sure exactly what "seems to run better" means. If I had a choice
between it running a little rough with the choke off, I'd take that
over leaving the choke partly closed, which is likely going to lead to
fouling. If it runs worse than a little rough, then something is
wrong, and if some gumout doesn't solve it, then I'd take it in for
service.

I have a 10 year old Craftsman 5HP and haven't done anything to it
other than change the oil. I run mine dry at the end of each season,
which I think is preferable for a snowblower, which has a very long sit
and wait period.


[email protected] December 6th 06 02:16 AM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 

Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )

I can't recall ANY engine without an air filter.


[email protected] December 6th 06 03:27 AM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 
My snowblower with tecumseh has no filter

wrote:
Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )

I can't recall ANY engine without an air filter.



z December 6th 06 06:07 PM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 

wrote:
My snowblower with tecumseh has no filter


Me too, ancient Snow Hound, ca. 1968 or such. I posted on alt.home
repair about it a few months back and got a couple of answers if
anybody cares enough to search. General feeling was that there wouldn't
be a problem for snowblowers. Choke hardware hanging over the carb
inlet leaves no way to attach an air filter if I wanted to, so it's not
like it got lost over the years.


wrote:
Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )

I can't recall ANY engine without an air filter.



Rick December 6th 06 06:48 PM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )


But SNOW dust isn't..an exposed small filter would probably pack solid and freeze in no
time...



I can't recall ANY engine without an air filter.




[email protected] December 7th 06 02:02 PM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 

Rick wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )


But SNOW dust isn't..an exposed small filter would probably pack solid and freeze in no
time...



Good point. My Craftsman doesn't have one either. I just thought it
was because they figured that when snow is around, there isn't likely
to be dust in the air, so one isn't needed. But now I think your idea
may be the real reason.


[email protected] December 7th 06 06:55 PM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 
Snow (water) gets sucked into the filter and clogs it.
Very few have filters on them because of that reason.
The ones that do run by the exhaust manifold to get some
heat from the exhaust.

Tom



wrote:
Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I
always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )

I can't recall ANY engine without an air filter.



Husky December 10th 06 06:44 PM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Strattonengine
 
wrote:
Snow (water) gets sucked into the filter and clogs it.
Very few have filters on them because of that reason.
The ones that do run by the exhaust manifold to get some
heat from the exhaust.

Tom



wrote:

Jeff Taylor wrote:
Since it is a snow blower, there is no air filter and I

always use STA-BIL in my gasoline. I'm not looking forward to getting
at the carburetor.

Thanks!


Why is there no air filter? What does blowing snow have to do with
that?
The filters catch dust and crud in the air, and that can happen in
winter as well as other times of the year (though dirt dust would be
pretty well subdued, I would imagine ;) )

I can't recall ANY engine without an air filter.



Actually, no snow thrower has an air filter, and all snow throwers have
"heaters". The box around the carburetor is there to trap heat from the
exhaust (muffler surface) and pre-heat the air entering the carburetor.
Winter air IS cleaner, and the filter would plug with snow. So no filter
is needed. And, quite frankly, the Tecumseh engines on most snow
throwers last a hell of a lot longer than Tecumseh lawn mower and
tractor engines. First, they run in cleaner environments, no less dirt
abrasion. Second, they run much cooler, so even when people don't run
them full speed to get full cooling, the colder environment keeps them
running cool enough. I see many many many thirty and even forty year old
Tecumseh snow king engines every year. But I haven't seen even a
twenty-five year old Tecumseh mower engine recently. Of course, the last
few years we have hardly even used the snow throwers, have we...?

I'm even considering getting an old Ariens with a Tecumseh H45B running,
just to see if it would win the Tecumseh Oldest Snow Thrower contest. It
is in relatively good shape, but hasn't been run in a few years. The old
updraft Zenith carburetor is probably gummed badly, and there haven't
been any parts available for those in years. I found it in the back of a
buddy's storage garage.

KLS December 11th 06 12:01 AM

Sears/Murray snowblower - Accessing spark plug on Briggs&Stratton engine
 
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:44:22 GMT, Husky
wrote:
I'm even considering getting an old Ariens with a Tecumseh H45B running,
just to see if it would win the Tecumseh Oldest Snow Thrower contest. It
is in relatively good shape, but hasn't been run in a few years. The old
updraft Zenith carburetor is probably gummed badly, and there haven't
been any parts available for those in years. I found it in the back of a
buddy's storage garage.


Do it! Sounds like fun. I'm hoping to run my Honda HS520 quite a bit
this year as it worked only twice last winter. It has to earn its
keep!


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