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Low sudsing detergent
We have just purchased a new front loading washer, and would like to
ask those of you who own front loaders what brand and type (powder or liquid) of detergent do you use ? FYI it is an LG WM2077CW 3.7 cuft 7 cycle without sanitary cycle. We also use a water softener due to our water quality. Thank you for any and a;; replies. |
Low sudsing detergent
Jungle Jim writes:
We have just purchased a new front loading washer, and would like to ask those of you who own front loaders what brand and type (powder or liquid) of detergent do you use ? FYI it is an LG WM2077CW 3.7 cuft 7 cycle without sanitary cycle. We also use a water softener due to our water quality. Thank you for any and a;; replies. Liquid Tide HE here. Works groovy. -- -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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Low sudsing detergent
We have a Kenmore front-loader (made by Frigidaire). We keep a lookout
for Sears to have a sale on laundry detergents and have bought large buckets of the store-brand HE powder (sometimes several at a time) when it's been 50% off. I've seen the HE detergents (Tide, IIRC) at Costco too, but we've never tried any. It's important to use the HE stuff. The regular detergents foam/suds excessively and can get into the bearings, resulting in an expensive repair. I don't see that simply using a small quantity of regular detergent will work (despite what another contributor to this thread says): it's likely to have insufficient cleaning power to do the job. Perce On 04/02/06 10:07 pm Jungle Jim wrote: We have just purchased a new front loading washer, and would like to ask those of you who own front loaders what brand and type (powder or liquid) of detergent do you use ? FYI it is an LG WM2077CW 3.7 cuft 7 cycle without sanitary cycle. We also use a water softener due to our water quality. |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:57:56 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote: It's important to use the HE stuff. The regular detergents foam/suds excessively and can get into the bearings, resulting in an expensive repair. I don't see that simply using a small quantity of regular detergent will work (despite what another contributor to this thread says): it's likely to have insufficient cleaning power to do the job. Regarding "insufficient cleaning power to do the job," I have not noticed same in my experience (assuming I'm the other contributor you mention), and I *CAN* say that most, if not all, soap manufacturers want you to use as much soap as they can con you into using. Think about shampoo! Lather, rinse, repeat! Same concept, and in all honesty, the instructions probably call for double the soap actually needed. My strategy so far hasn't had any deleterious effects over the 3 years we've had our Frigidaire Gallery front loader. But if BJ's ever shows an HE detergent marked way down, I'll buy that. Why not? |
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On 04/03/06 08:27 pm KLS wrote:
It's important to use the HE stuff. The regular detergents foam/suds excessively and can get into the bearings, resulting in an expensive repair. I don't see that simply using a small quantity of regular detergent will work (despite what another contributor to this thread says): it's likely to have insufficient cleaning power to do the job. Regarding "insufficient cleaning power to do the job," I have not noticed same in my experience (assuming I'm the other contributor you mention), and I *CAN* say that most, if not all, soap manufacturers want you to use as much soap as they can con you into using. Think about shampoo! Lather, rinse, repeat! Same concept, and in all honesty, the instructions probably call for double the soap actually needed. My strategy so far hasn't had any deleterious effects over the 3 years we've had our Frigidaire Gallery front loader. But if BJ's ever shows an HE detergent marked way down, I'll buy that. Why not? No doubt the amount of detergent, shampoo (mostly a fancier, skin-friendlier detergent), etc., depends on how dirty or greasy the fabric, surface or hair is that you're trying to clean. It also depends on how hard your water is. If you use as little regular detergent as you say, you probably aren't generating enough suds to get into the bearings. And if it gets your clothes as clean as you want, then I guess that's OK for you. But to take your example of shampoo, I know that all the first spoonful of shampoo does for me is generate a stream of dirty water; it takes the second spoonful (after rinsing) to produce a lather. Perce |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:22:53 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote: If you use as little regular detergent as you say, you probably aren't generating enough suds to get into the bearings. And if it gets your clothes as clean as you want, then I guess that's OK for you. Indeed. But to take your example of shampoo, I know that all the first spoonful of shampoo does for me is generate a stream of dirty water; it takes the second spoonful (after rinsing) to produce a lather. Have you considered that perhaps the lather is just a marketing gimmick, again to get you to use and therefore buy more shampoo? Or of course you could just be a lot dirtier or greasier than I am, but in all honesty, the point is to get clean, I thought. I'm happy with my squeaky clean hair and skin after my single spoonful of shampoo (which lathers up fine) and don't feel the need to redo the process and waste shampoo. |
Low sudsing detergent
Percival P. Cassidy wrote: It's important to use the HE stuff. The regular detergents foam/suds excessively and can get into the bearings, resulting in an expensive repair. I don't see that simply using a small quantity of regular detergent will work (despite what another contributor to this thread says): it's likely to have insufficient cleaning power to do the job. I've had a front-loader for 8 years now and using only a couple of tablespoons of detergent, regular or HE, works just fine for almost all loads. Probably you could do many loads with no soap at all which is how those "magic ball" scam things "worked". I am sure that for most people 90% of what they wash really isn't very dirty. Where HE really is important is in doing loads on very hot water. Normal detergent, even a tiny amount, will completely fill the washer with suds when I wash whites at 205 degrees and doesn't rinse out very well. I believe the last time I bought HE (at Sam's Club) the price was the same as for normal so there's no reason to not get the HE any more. |
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"WDS" wrote:
Probably you could do many loads with no soap at all which is how those "magic ball" scam things "worked". That was from the detergent left in the clothes from previous washings... |
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"Jungle Jim" wrote in message 7... We have just purchased a new front loading washer, and would like to ask those of you who own front loaders what brand and type (powder or liquid) of detergent do you use ? Aldi's regular Tandil powder, at a little less than the usage level as for top loaders, works great. My Whirlpool's manual ominously warns that "regular detergent will lead to unsatisfactory performance over time" (some payola between the mfr and the high priced HE soap companies?) but I have not noticed any ill effects on either clothing or machine in two years. Oh, and a cup or two of household ammonia in prewash or wash greatly helps to get out gnarly grease stains with any kind of detergent. |
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"KLS" wrote in message ... On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:57:56 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote: It's important to use the HE stuff. The regular detergents foam/suds excessively and can get into the bearings, resulting in an expensive repair. I don't see that simply using a small quantity of regular detergent will work (despite what another contributor to this thread says): it's likely to have insufficient cleaning power to do the job. Regarding "insufficient cleaning power to do the job," I have not noticed same in my experience (assuming I'm the other contributor you mention), and I *CAN* say that most, if not all, soap manufacturers want you to use as much soap as they can con you into using. Think about shampoo! Lather, rinse, repeat! Same concept, and in all honesty, the instructions probably call for double the soap actually needed. My strategy so far hasn't had any deleterious effects over the 3 years we've had our Frigidaire Gallery front loader. But if BJ's ever shows an HE detergent marked way down, I'll buy that. Why not? Frigidaire Gallery's are sensitive to bearing trouble, as I hear from one repair guy. There is a seal which is supposed to keep the wash water out of the bearing, but it sometimes doesn't hold up very well. |
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On 04/10/06 08:36 pm HiTech RedNeck wrote:
It's important to use the HE stuff. The regular detergents foam/suds excessively and can get into the bearings, resulting in an expensive repair. I don't see that simply using a small quantity of regular detergent will work (despite what another contributor to this thread says): it's likely to have insufficient cleaning power to do the job. Frigidaire Gallery's are sensitive to bearing trouble, as I hear from one repair guy. There is a seal which is supposed to keep the wash water out of the bearing, but it sometimes doesn't hold up very well. So maybe it's primarily a Frigidaire problem. Our Kenmore is made by Frigidaire, and my information about regular detergent causing bearing failure came from the guy who came to replace our controller unit (free under service contract; $200+ plus labor otherwise). He said that the bearing is not available separately, so a repair involves replacement of the whole drum/bearing assembly, which is a two-person job taking at least a couple of hours. I.e., it costs more to repair than to buy a new one. Perce |
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