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New house wiring
We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in
(either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. What books are available that you have used and can recommend to me so that I may become more educated in current technology and what;s coming up. Anyone who has either done this at home construction or as an add-on after construction ? What was your ideas on this ? |
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"Jungle Jim" wrote in message 3... We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), With wireless getting better all the time, cat 5 networking may not be all that important. and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. What books are available that you have used and can recommend to me so that I may become more educated in current technology and what;s coming up. Anyone who has either done this at home construction or as an add-on after construction ? What was your ideas on this ? |
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Jungle Jim wrote: We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. I was in a situation where I had to have everything done and closed up in order to close on the house, but I didn't have time to pull the wire, terminate it, and punch it down. What I came up with was putting standard outlet boxes in whereever I thought I would want a drop, with at least one per room. I then had the electrician drop conduit from the box down into the basement. That allowed me to be fully finished for closing, and allowed me to easily pull the cable later on. I later found a 3rd benefit in that I changed cable from cat 3 to cat 5, and having the conduit made it easy to refish. Had the cable been stapled down near the box, I would have been screwed. Finally, you will want as big of conduit as you can. 1/2 is too small. 3/4 is tight for a good coax and 2 cat 5. Another finally, have the installer minimize the number of bends in the conduit, and make sure the bends are gradual. You don't want any challenging fishes if you can avoid it. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message ... In article , Jungle Jim wrote: We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. I was in a situation where I had to have everything done and closed up in order to close on the house, but I didn't have time to pull the wire, terminate it, and punch it down. What I came up with was putting standard outlet boxes in whereever I thought I would want a drop, with at least one per room. I then had the electrician drop conduit from the box down into the basement. That allowed me to be fully finished for closing, and allowed me to easily pull the cable later on. I later found a 3rd benefit in that I changed cable from cat 3 to cat 5, and having the conduit made it easy to refish. Had the cable been stapled down near the box, I would have been screwed. Finally, you will want as big of conduit as you can. 1/2 is too small. 3/4 is tight for a good coax and 2 cat 5. Another finally, have the installer minimize the number of bends in the conduit, and make sure the bends are gradual. You don't want any challenging fishes if you can avoid it. Did you put a pull string in them during construction or just use fish tape later? -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:34:53 -0500, someone wrote:
.... What I came up with was putting standard outlet boxes in whereever I thought I would want a drop, with at least one per room. I then had the electrician drop conduit from the box down into the basement. I have always thought that sounded like the way to go, but you are the first person I heard from who actually did it. Yeah if one really wanted to be belt and suspenders prepared, have pull string put in too, but that shouldn't be critical, check the price. Reply to NG only - this e.mail address goes to a kill file. |
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In article ,
"FDR" wrote: I then had the electrician drop conduit from the box down into the basement. That allowed me to be fully finished for closing, and allowed me to easily pull the cable later on. I later found a 3rd benefit in that I changed cable from cat 3 to cat 5, and having the conduit made it easy to refish. Had the cable been stapled down near the box, I would have been screwed. Finally, you will want as big of conduit as you can. 1/2 is too small. 3/4 is tight for a good coax and 2 cat 5. Another finally, have the installer minimize the number of bends in the conduit, and make sure the bends are gradual. You don't want any challenging fishes if you can avoid it. Did you put a pull string in them during construction or just use fish tape later? Neither. Most of the drops were straight down from the main level to the basement, so the conduit was maybe two to three feet long. Even the few drops from the 2nd level to the basement were easy to fish...just tie the wires together and push them into the conduit. If you get a drop with corners, you might have to use a fish line. A chunk of coax or 12 gauge electrical wire works great as a fish. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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I would strongly conside TWO coax to each possible TV location. Some
Satalite / LNBF / 2 tuner combinations may require it. "Jungle Jim" wrote in message 3... We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. What books are available that you have used and can recommend to me so that I may become more educated in current technology and what;s coming up. Anyone who has either done this at home construction or as an add-on after construction ? What was your ideas on this ? |
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Jungle Jim wrote:
We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. What books are available that you have used and can recommend to me so that I may become more educated in current technology and what;s coming up. Anyone who has either done this at home construction or as an add-on after construction ? What was your ideas on this ? Sounds good. 2x cat5 per room should be sufficient. Security camers are also using IP addresses and network connections these days, so perhaps put a few drops in the attic for good camera locations. Plus electrical. run the cable, but you dont have to wire every room right away, long as the wire is there your good for when you need it. And if you can avoid wireless your better off. Use it only on the laptop. No need to run so many extra radio waves through ourselves than necessary. And wire will always be faster than wireless. -- Respectfully, CL Gilbert |
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"CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert" wrote in message ... Jungle Jim wrote: We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. What books are available that you have used and can recommend to me so that I may become more educated in current technology and what;s coming up. Anyone who has either done this at home construction or as an add-on after construction ? What was your ideas on this ? Sounds good. 2x cat5 per room should be sufficient. Security camers are also using IP addresses and network connections these days, so perhaps put a few drops in the attic for good camera locations. Plus electrical. They sell inexpensive adapters to connect the output of video cameras and connect them to cat5 cable. I don't know if it'c cost effective but it's probably easier to run than coax. run the cable, but you dont have to wire every room right away, long as the wire is there your good for when you need it. And if you can avoid wireless your better off. Use it only on the laptop. No need to run so many extra radio waves through ourselves than necessary. And wire will always be faster than wireless. -- Respectfully, CL Gilbert |
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"CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert" wrote in
: Jungle Jim wrote: We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. What books are available that you have used and can recommend to me so that I may become more educated in current technology and what;s coming up. Anyone who has either done this at home construction or as an add-on after construction ? What was your ideas on this ? Sounds good. 2x cat5 per room should be sufficient. Security camers are also using IP addresses and network connections these days, so perhaps put a few drops in the attic for good camera locations. Plus electrical. run the cable, but you dont have to wire every room right away, long as the wire is there your good for when you need it. And if you can avoid wireless your better off. Use it only on the laptop. No need to run so many extra radio waves through ourselves than necessary. And wire will always be faster than wireless. if you've got the walls open, nothing beats conduit. right now it looks like everything can be done on cat5/6, but what happens when you need cat8a, or fiber, or whatever. an empty conduit, or any conduit, with a pull string is infinitely preferable to trying to restring something else after the walls are closed up. |
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Jungle Jim wrote:
We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. if you find a nice enough electrician, you can pay him, and still do the job too so you can learn and get special things done you want. -- Respectfully, CL Gilbert |
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tim wrote in
89.191: "CL (dnoyeB) Gilbert" wrote in : Jungle Jim wrote: We are buikding a new home - ranch w/basement, and I am interested in (either tasking the electrician or doing it myself) taking this opportunity to wire the house for network drops, audio, etc. I will want a closet with a patch panel for maximum flexibility and home runs from each room in the house. I do know that I will want 2 cat-5 cables for each room (network and phone), and RG-6 coax for tv cable. There are other hings I will want to do at a later time, but for now I don't want to vet in too deeply into other things such as security cameras, etc. if you've got the walls open, nothing beats conduit. right now it looks like everything can be done on cat5/6, but what happens when you need cat8a, or fiber, or whatever. an empty conduit, or any conduit, with a pull string is infinitely preferable to trying to restring something else after the walls are closed up. one more point. while you have the walls open don't stop at only one drop per room. drops on opposite side of the bedrooms, living rooms, etc. give a lot more flexibility in arranging the room than having to run 20ft of cable around the baseboard because the drop isn't close to where the furniture needs it to be. as far as books go, just wander around the benden wire website and the blackbox website. one would be surprised at what can be learned that way. |
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