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Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F wrote:

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You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.* But in most places, solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time, but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.* Ever heard
of an ISA?


No!


Might be a British acronym.* It's a long term savings account.


Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??

--
Daniel

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60 wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer. But in most places, solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time, but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even. Ever heard
of an ISA?

No!


Might be a British acronym. It's a long term savings account.


Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??


No idea, I don't have one. You put money in and don't touch it for 5 years and earn a higher interest rate.
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On 11/6/19 9:54 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.* But in most places, solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple
of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time, but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.* Ever heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym.* It's a long term savings account.


Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??


No idea, I don't have one.* You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.


Compounding interest is key.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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deficient, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered:

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??


Nope, senile Australian asshole! It's a TROLL and nothing else! Get that
into your senile head finally!
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Compounding interest is key.


The burning interest is under how many nyms are you still going to feed that
******, you brain damaged senile Ozzietard? BG


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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:14:33 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 11/6/19 9:54 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer. But in most places, solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple
of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time, but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even. Ever heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym. It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??


No idea, I don't have one. You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.


Compounding interest is key.


Not what I meant, the % is much higher in the accounts where the bank knows you can't withdraw it for 5 or 10 years.
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On 11/6/19 10:49 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:14:33 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 11/6/19 9:54 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.* But in most places,
solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple
of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight
levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time,
but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.* Ever
heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym.* It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??

No idea, I don't have one.* You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.


Compounding interest is key.


Not what I meant, the % is much higher in the accounts where the bank
knows you can't withdraw it for 5 or 10 years.


That is known in these parts as a *term deposit*. It is not usually as
long as 5 to 10 years, typically 1 year. Have some currently at 8 months
for the best interest rate. If we roll the money, principal + interest,
into another term, that is compounding. Can be done automatically I
suspect but we prefer to vet the interest rate each year.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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That is known in these parts as


Nope, troll-feeding Australian asshole, that is known in these parts as
TROLLING and TROLL-FEEDING! Get that into your troll-feeding senile head!
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On 6/11/19 8:49 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:14:33 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 11/6/19 9:54 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.* But in most places, solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple
of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time, but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.* Ever heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym.* It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??

No idea, I don't have one.* You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.


Compounding interest is key.


Not what I meant, the % is much higher in the accounts where the bank knows you can't withdraw it for 5 or 10 years.



US bank accounts are a lousy place to invest because they are paying less than the inflation rate.

And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free IRA, you'll pay income tax on your losses.

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:01:00 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 11/6/19 10:49 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:14:33 +0100, Xeno wrote:

On 11/6/19 9:54 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer. But in most places,
solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple
of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight
levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time,
but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even. Ever
heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym. It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??

No idea, I don't have one. You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.

Compounding interest is key.


Not what I meant, the % is much higher in the accounts where the bank
knows you can't withdraw it for 5 or 10 years.


That is known in these parts as a *term deposit*. It is not usually as
long as 5 to 10 years, typically 1 year. Have some currently at 8 months
for the best interest rate. If we roll the money, principal + interest,
into another term, that is compounding. Can be done automatically I
suspect but we prefer to vet the interest rate each year.


AFAIK most here are 5, 10, 15 years. Well those are the ones my friends use. Maybe there are shorter ones. I wouldn't have thought the bank would care for anything as short as 1 year, they want to know they can keep your money for a long time.


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