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krem December 3rd 03 05:14 AM

relay rating question
 
I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A. Will i
still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?



John Popelish December 3rd 03 06:04 AM

relay rating question
 
krem wrote:

I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A. Will i
still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?


Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on whether the current rating is
based on the continuous rating of the contacts (current) or on the
ability of the contacts to handle the flash when the current is
interrupted. I have seen both cases.

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John Popelish

Jerry G. December 3rd 03 05:28 PM

relay rating question
 
The ratings of the contacts can be fairly complex, and involve a number of
factors. Basically the contacts should be able to support 1 Amp of
continuous current, not including any peaks upon closure (latching) of the
contacts.

I would normally rate the relay contacts to at least double or more of the
amount of current I want it to handle. This way, a high reliability factor
will be introduced.

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"krem" wrote in message
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I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A. Will i
still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?




[email protected] December 7th 03 06:06 PM

relay rating question
 


krem wrote:

I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A. Will i
still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?


A couple of points:
1) If your relay is really rated to *SWITCH* 1A at 120 vac,
then it can handle more at 30 vac, all other conditions being
equal.
2) A rating to switch 1A *should* limit your design to
switching less than that. It is not a good practice to
run components at their rated maximum.

Essentially, if a hobbyist has a question about a relay's
ability to handle the current in the circuit, he should use
a bigger (higher rated) relay - one *well* in excess of the
maximum expected current.
decision,

krem December 7th 03 07:15 PM

relay rating question
 

wrote in message
...


krem wrote:

I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A. Will i
still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?


A couple of points:
1) If your relay is really rated to *SWITCH* 1A at 120 vac,
then it can handle more at 30 vac, all other conditions being
equal.
2) A rating to switch 1A *should* limit your design to
switching less than that. It is not a good practice to
run components at their rated maximum.

Essentially, if a hobbyist has a question about a relay's
ability to handle the current in the circuit, he should use
a bigger (higher rated) relay - one *well* in excess of the
maximum expected current.
decision,




Thanks, the only reason i'm not just going out an buying the higer rated
relays is that i already have 100 of the 1A 120vac around the house and need
to use about 28 for the project i'm working on so its an expensive
proposition. Unless some one knows of a cheep source



John Popelish December 7th 03 08:08 PM

relay rating question
 
krem wrote:

Thanks, the only reason i'm not just going out an buying the higer rated
relays is that i already have 100 of the 1A 120vac around the house and need
to use about 28 for the project i'm working on so its an expensive
proposition. Unless some one knows of a cheep source


You might improve the contact life of the ones you have with well
designed contact snubbers, but that might cost a significant fraction
of what better relays cost.

Do all the contacts need to carry more than 1 amp, or just a few of
them?
How much current must the contacts carry (worst case) and what sort of
load is being driven?

--
John Popelish

Michael December 8th 03 01:48 AM

relay rating question
 
"krem" wrote in message ws.com...
wrote in message
...


krem wrote:

I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A. Will i
still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?


A couple of points:
1) If your relay is really rated to *SWITCH* 1A at 120 vac,
then it can handle more at 30 vac, all other conditions being
equal.
2) A rating to switch 1A *should* limit your design to
switching less than that. It is not a good practice to
run components at their rated maximum.

Essentially, if a hobbyist has a question about a relay's
ability to handle the current in the circuit, he should use
a bigger (higher rated) relay - one *well* in excess of the
maximum expected current.
decision,



Thanks, the only reason i'm not just going out an buying the higer rated
relays is that i already have 100 of the 1A 120vac around the house and need
to use about 28 for the project i'm working on so its an expensive
proposition. Unless some one knows of a cheep source


Simple, Try one, see how hot it gets.
Relays can dissappate heat through the pins, so if you are making
your own pcb for them , try to have a lot of copper around the contact
pins.

Rich Grise December 9th 03 05:11 AM

relay rating question
 
How much current are you trying to switch? If you have
100, and only need 38, put two in parallel for each
circuit; that'll give you 2A.

But frankly, I wouldn't depend on it being good for
much more than the rating. I've seen relays where
the contacts were rated for one current at 240VAC,
and _less_ current at 28VDC, but that's one of the
differences between switching AC and DC.

Good Luck!
Rich

Michael wrote:
...
Thanks, the only reason i'm not just going out an buying the higer rated
relays is that i already have 100 of the 1A 120vac around the house and need
to use about 28 for the project i'm working on so its an expensive
proposition. Unless some one knows of a cheep source


Simple, Try one, see how hot it gets.
Relays can dissappate heat through the pins, so if you are making
your own pcb for them , try to have a lot of copper around the contact
pins.


Spudley December 11th 03 06:27 AM

relay rating question
 
If your relay has multiple contacts then I would advise running them
in parallel to double their contact rating.
Else get relays with higher contact current rating.
Perhaps you could divide the loads across multiple relays to reduce
the current imposed on each relay.

krem wrote:
I have a relay which is labed to be able to switch 120vac @ 1A.

Will
i still be limited to 1 amp if i'm only switching 30vac?





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