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Roddy Meatstick.............. December 31st 06 04:01 AM

Vacuum
 
The vacuum cleaner motor makes just as much noise without the fan
attached to the shaft. It's the cheap motor that makes all the noise. If
they put a geared up induction motor in there it would be a lot quieter.
Why don't they do that?

PeterD December 31st 06 05:24 PM

Vacuum
 
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:01:11 GMT, "Roddy Meatstick.............."
wrote:

The vacuum cleaner motor makes just as much noise without the fan
attached to the shaft. It's the cheap motor that makes all the noise. If
they put a geared up induction motor in there it would be a lot quieter.
Why don't they do that?


Cost, reliability, efficiency? That small vacuum motor is quite
efficient, a compariable induction motor of the same power would be
much larger, then the added cost of a high speed gear box (and its
size)...

Roddy Meatstick.............. December 31st 06 07:06 PM

Vacuum
 
PeterD wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:01:11 GMT, "Roddy Meatstick.............."
wrote:

The vacuum cleaner motor makes just as much noise without the fan
attached to the shaft. It's the cheap motor that makes all the noise. If
they put a geared up induction motor in there it would be a lot quieter.
Why don't they do that?


Cost, reliability, efficiency? That small vacuum motor is quite
efficient, a compariable induction motor of the same power would be
much larger, then the added cost of a high speed gear box (and its
size)...


Some would pay the added cost for quietness. But I guess if you have
central vac with the motor in the basement or outside you get the quiet.
Portable quiet would be nice too.

Jack December 31st 06 08:06 PM

Vacuum
 
It's the weight advantage of using the universal motor.
An induction motor of the same power would weigh 3 times as much plus the
weight of the gearbox.
No one would buy a vacuum that weighed that much.
In central vacuum systems where no one has to carry the motor they do use
induction motors.

"Roddy Meatstick.............." wrote in message
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The vacuum cleaner motor makes just as much noise without the fan
attached to the shaft. It's the cheap motor that makes all the noise. If
they put a geared up induction motor in there it would be a lot quieter.
Why don't they do that?




jasen December 31st 06 10:38 PM

Vacuum
 
On 2006-12-31, Roddy Meatstick.............. wrote:
The vacuum cleaner motor makes just as much noise without the fan
attached to the shaft. It's the cheap motor that makes all the noise. If
they put a geared up induction motor in there it would be a lot quieter.
Why don't they do that?


a vaccum cleaner is supposed to be a portable device.
It'd take 2 guys to carry a 1.2KW induction motor upstairs.

It's much more convenient to install ducted vacuum.

Bye.
Jasen

PeterD January 1st 07 12:53 AM

Vacuum
 
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:06:29 GMT, "Roddy Meatstick.............."
wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 04:01:11 GMT, "Roddy Meatstick.............."
wrote:

The vacuum cleaner motor makes just as much noise without the fan
attached to the shaft. It's the cheap motor that makes all the noise. If
they put a geared up induction motor in there it would be a lot quieter.
Why don't they do that?


Cost, reliability, efficiency? That small vacuum motor is quite
efficient, a compariable induction motor of the same power would be
much larger, then the added cost of a high speed gear box (and its
size)...


Some would pay the added cost for quietness. But I guess if you have
central vac with the motor in the basement or outside you get the quiet.
Portable quiet would be nice too.


I recall once being in a store while they were vacuuming the floors.
The machine they had was very quiet (almost silent, really). Down
side? It was HUGE, the size of a 55 gallon drum, with a motor assembly
that was quite large too. Not terribly portable, no way it would go up
or down stairs without two people to move it. But it was quiet. I
later checked how much it would have cost--and it was rather expensive
too, about three times what a good non-commercial vacuum cleaner would
cost.


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