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Hi,

I have 2 crystals rated at 3.57 MHz (for driving video)

One is 2 pin, and the other is a 4 pin. I have the 4 pin working, but not
the 2 pin -

I am looking for info on how to substitute a 2 pin in place of a 4 pin.

thx,
Farce



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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:20:03 GMT, "Farce Milverk"
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Hi,

I have 2 crystals rated at 3.57 MHz (for driving video)

One is 2 pin, and the other is a 4 pin. I have the 4 pin working, but not
the 2 pin -

I am looking for info on how to substitute a 2 pin in place of a 4 pin.


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For the 2 pin you must build an oscillator.

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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:20:03 GMT, "Farce Milverk"
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Hi,

I have 2 crystals rated at 3.57 MHz (for driving video)

One is 2 pin, and the other is a 4 pin. I have the 4 pin working, but
not
the 2 pin -

I am looking for info on how to substitute a 2 pin in place of a 4 pin.


---
For the 2 pin you must build an oscillator.

--
JF


Hi John,

Can you point me to info on why this is the case?

Thanks!

Farce



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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 02:32:43 GMT, "Farce Milverk"
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"John Fields" wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:20:03 GMT, "Farce Milverk"
wrote:

Hi,

I have 2 crystals rated at 3.57 MHz (for driving video)

One is 2 pin, and the other is a 4 pin. I have the 4 pin working, but
not
the 2 pin -

I am looking for info on how to substitute a 2 pin in place of a 4 pin.


---
For the 2 pin you must build an oscillator.

--
JF


Hi John,

Can you point me to info on why this is the case?

Thanks!

Farce


What John means is that the 4 pin device you have is an active
oscillator while the 2 pin device is simply a crystal which requires
other active components to get it to oscillate. The 4 pin oscillators
are commonly used to produce clock signals for IC devices. 2 of its
pins are simply to provide + and - power for the internal oscillator
which uses a crystal to set the frequency. The 2 pin crystal doesn't
have the oscillator part so you need to provide it.
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What John means is that the 4 pin device you have is an active
oscillator while the 2 pin device is simply a crystal which requires
other active components to get it to oscillate. The 4 pin oscillators
are commonly used to produce clock signals for IC devices. 2 of its
pins are simply to provide + and - power for the internal oscillator
which uses a crystal to set the frequency. The 2 pin crystal doesn't
have the oscillator part so you need to provide it.


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Right.

Thanks!


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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:54:36 GMT, Ross Herbert
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What John means is that the 4 pin device you have is an active
oscillator while the 2 pin device is simply a crystal which requires
other active components to get it to oscillate. The 4 pin oscillators
are commonly used to produce clock signals for IC devices. 2 of its
pins are simply to provide + and - power for the internal oscillator
which uses a crystal to set the frequency. The 2 pin crystal doesn't
have the oscillator part so you need to provide it.


---
Right.

Thanks!


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JF


Great explanation thanks. I have one more question:

Does the 2 pin have a Pin 1 identifier?
Or is this a component that doesn't care?
I see XTAL and EXTAL in the schematic, but don't understand what this means?





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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:28:24 GMT, "Farce Milverk"
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"John Fields" wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:54:36 GMT, Ross Herbert
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What John means is that the 4 pin device you have is an active
oscillator while the 2 pin device is simply a crystal which requires
other active components to get it to oscillate. The 4 pin oscillators
are commonly used to produce clock signals for IC devices. 2 of its
pins are simply to provide + and - power for the internal oscillator
which uses a crystal to set the frequency. The 2 pin crystal doesn't
have the oscillator part so you need to provide it.


---
Right.

Thanks!


--
JF


Great explanation thanks. I have one more question:

Does the 2 pin have a Pin 1 identifier?
Or is this a component that doesn't care?


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It's a don't care.
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I see XTAL and EXTAL in the schematic, but don't understand what this means?


If it's for a 4 pin oscillator, that will be a pin which is used to
Enable or disable the oscillator. It could be that either a low or
a high will enable the oscillator, so you can either try it and find
out or go to the manufacturer's website and get the data sheet for
the oscillator.


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