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method March 23rd 06 01:36 PM

Replacement Automotive relays???
 
Hi

I am currently in the process of relocating a lot of the harness in my car.
I was trying to find alternate relays to use instead of the genuine nissan
ones. Anyone have any idea where I could find these? Most of them have show
1 switch and 1 coil on the top of them. If I can find a replacement type
where I can get rid of the nissan ones all up that would be great. Also I
have searched on google to find someone that sells relay boxes / holders but
had no luck. Any ideas?

The service manual says there are three types: Normal open, normal closed
and mixed type

It also has the types of relays stated as:
1M = 1 Make
2M = 2 Make
1T = 1 Transfer
1M-1B = 1 Make 1 Break

Thanks



default March 23rd 06 03:10 PM

Replacement Automotive relays???
 
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:36:49 GMT, "method"
wrote:

Hi

I am currently in the process of relocating a lot of the harness in my car.
I was trying to find alternate relays to use instead of the genuine nissan
ones. Anyone have any idea where I could find these? Most of them have show
1 switch and 1 coil on the top of them. If I can find a replacement type
where I can get rid of the nissan ones all up that would be great. Also I
have searched on google to find someone that sells relay boxes / holders but
had no luck. Any ideas?

The service manual says there are three types: Normal open, normal closed
and mixed type

It also has the types of relays stated as:
1M = 1 Make
2M = 2 Make
1T = 1 Transfer
1M-1B = 1 Make 1 Break

Thanks


Why not use a "DIN rail" and standard industrial relays? It would
make for a neat installation and the relays come in all
configurations. All your types could be replaced with DPDT relays to
keep it simple - just wire them differently for the functions.

You don't say what current you're interested in switching. 5-10-15
amp contacts are more common in industrial pilot relays. Some
automotive relays go to 30 amps or so. Industrial relays have
contacts rated to switch 120 - 240 AC inductive and resistive loads. I
had a few 10 amp ones replacing 30 amp ones in my Toyota Land Cruiser
- never a bit of problem. Worked that way for 15 years that I know
of. One was rated at five amps and switching the headlights - a 12
amp tungsten load - no problem.

Din rails are for plug-in relays. It makes for a nice sanitary layout
and appearance. The relays do take quite a bit of insertion force so
can tolerate a lot of vibration before they fall out of the sockets -
and plug style relays are common enough in auto use now. Fine for a
car and all but the most die-hard off roader.

The rails bolt to a surface and the relay sockets snap onto the rails.
Wires are served to screw terminals. Since they are designed to mount
in all orientations there are usually spring clips available to hold
the relays in the sockets if that is a concern.
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method March 24th 06 07:35 AM

Replacement Automotive relays???
 
Thanks for your info!

I was just wondering if you use any type of instant message programs where I
could contact you?

Thanks

meth.

default wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:36:49 GMT, "method"
wrote:

Hi

I am currently in the process of relocating a lot of the harness in my
car.
I was trying to find alternate relays to use instead of the genuine nissan
ones. Anyone have any idea where I could find these? Most of them have
show
1 switch and 1 coil on the top of them. If I can find a replacement type
where I can get rid of the nissan ones all up that would be great. Also I
have searched on google to find someone that sells relay boxes / holders
but
had no luck. Any ideas?

The service manual says there are three types: Normal open, normal closed
and mixed type

It also has the types of relays stated as:
1M = 1 Make
2M = 2 Make
1T = 1 Transfer
1M-1B = 1 Make 1 Break

Thanks


Why not use a "DIN rail" and standard industrial relays? It would
make for a neat installation and the relays come in all
configurations. All your types could be replaced with DPDT relays to
keep it simple - just wire them differently for the functions.

You don't say what current you're interested in switching. 5-10-15
amp contacts are more common in industrial pilot relays. Some
automotive relays go to 30 amps or so. Industrial relays have
contacts rated to switch 120 - 240 AC inductive and resistive loads. I
had a few 10 amp ones replacing 30 amp ones in my Toyota Land Cruiser
- never a bit of problem. Worked that way for 15 years that I know
of. One was rated at five amps and switching the headlights - a 12
amp tungsten load - no problem.

Din rails are for plug-in relays. It makes for a nice sanitary layout
and appearance. The relays do take quite a bit of insertion force so
can tolerate a lot of vibration before they fall out of the sockets -
and plug style relays are common enough in auto use now. Fine for a
car and all but the most die-hard off roader.

The rails bolt to a surface and the relay sockets snap onto the rails.
Wires are served to screw terminals. Since they are designed to mount
in all orientations there are usually spring clips available to hold
the relays in the sockets if that is a concern.
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Jasen Betts March 24th 06 08:57 AM

Replacement Automotive relays???
 
On 2006-03-23, method wrote:
Hi



I am currently in the process of relocating a lot of the harness in my car.
I was trying to find alternate relays to use instead of the genuine nissan
ones.


supercheap?
look in for "auto electrics supplies" in the yellow pages.

Anyone have any idea where I could find these? Most of them have show
1 switch and 1 coil on the top of them. If I can find a replacement type
where I can get rid of the nissan ones all up that would be great. Also I
have searched on google to find someone that sells relay boxes / holders but
had no luck. Any ideas?


connectors/holders for individial relays are available you might have
to build the enclosure yourself.

The service manual says there are three types: Normal open, normal closed
and mixed type


It also has the types of relays stated as:
1M = 1 Make
2M = 2 Make
1T = 1 Transfer
1M-1B = 1 Make 1 Break


strange terminology, I'm guessing

1M is SPST (commonly normally open ("NO"))
2M is DPST (commonly normally open ("NO"))
1T is SPDT

and 1M-1B has no generic term but you could use DPDT

normally closed can be got by using a DT type and only using the NC contacts.

Bye.
Jasen

default March 24th 06 01:33 PM

Replacement Automotive relays???
 
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:35:51 GMT, "method"
wrote:


I was just wondering if you use any type of instant message programs where I
could contact you?


ganeth at movemail dot com No spaces, all lower case
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