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Pera Mitic March 11th 05 10:00 AM

SDRAM arrrgh :(
 
I have bought some new type SDRAM (256Mb, 133, NCP) although seller
told me it wouldn't work on pre-2001 motherboards (at that time I
didn't know mobo was made in 2000). so it doesn't work. windows
crashes on boot with blue screen and BIOS doesn't show text (!), only
colored boxes :((((

I was told by salesman it would work at least as 128Mb. Since it
doesn't, does it mean SDRAM is broken? I got some guarantee, and
hopefully they will give me new one but it will be of the same type :(
If that new module works as 128Mb, is it safe to use it? (computer is
online 24/7)

BTW, I have only two slots and here are some details of my system,
just in case it helps you to help me :)

CPU-Z Report
------------------------------------
CPU-Z version 1.26.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name Intel Pentium III EB
Code Name Coppermine
Specification Intel Pentium III EB 666MHz
Family / Model / Stepping 6 8 3
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 2
Package Socket 370 FC-PGA
Core Stepping cB0
Technology 0.18 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 664.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 5.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 132.9 MHz
Bus Speed 132.9 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line
size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L2 Latency 0
L2 Speed 664.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 ECC Check enabled
L2 Data Prefetch Logic no
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer FUJITSU SIEMENS
Motherboard model D1170, S26361-D1170
BIOS vendor FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
BIOS revision 4.06 Rev. 1.10.1170
BIOS release date 10/27/2000
Chipset Intel i810E rev. A3
Southbridge Intel 82801AA (ICH) rev. 2

Memory
DRAM Type SDRAM
DRAM Size 128 MBytes
CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 2 clocks
RAS# Precharge 2 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 5 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 1
Module 0 Hyundai Electronics SDRAM PC100 - 128 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1
(Build 2600)
DirectX version 8.1b

[email protected] March 11th 05 11:47 PM

Sounds like you need low density RAM, PC100 or maybe even PC66. The
PC100 should work, the problem is finding it. They're not making any
more. (at least that I know of)

Got an eBay ID ? You might find some there, but I would suggest
corresponding with the vendor. I would also DL the manual for the mobo
and see what it says about RAM. There may be a jumper or a DIP switch
that'll allow you to use what you have, although as a 128MB stick.
Don't hold your breath though, but I would definitely look into it.

JURB


NSM March 12th 05 01:55 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...
Sounds like you need low density RAM, PC100 or maybe even PC66. The
PC100 should work, the problem is finding it. They're not making any
more. (at least that I know of)

Got an eBay ID ? You might find some there, but I would suggest
corresponding with the vendor. I would also DL the manual for the mobo
and see what it says about RAM. There may be a jumper or a DIP switch
that'll allow you to use what you have, although as a 128MB stick.
Don't hold your breath though, but I would definitely look into it.


And try computer recyclers.

N



JR North March 12th 05 05:15 AM

EBAY is awash in computer stuff. Tons of 3-4 year old technology very
cheap. More memory than you can shake a logic probe at.
JR

wrote:
Sounds like you need low density RAM, PC100 or maybe even PC66. The
PC100 should work, the problem is finding it. They're not making any
more. (at least that I know of)

Got an eBay ID ? You might find some there, but I would suggest
corresponding with the vendor. I would also DL the manual for the mobo
and see what it says about RAM. There may be a jumper or a DIP switch
that'll allow you to use what you have, although as a 128MB stick.
Don't hold your breath though, but I would definitely look into it.

JURB



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Bob Urz March 12th 05 03:44 PM



Pera Mitic wrote:
I have bought some new type SDRAM (256Mb, 133, NCP) although seller
told me it wouldn't work on pre-2001 motherboards (at that time I
didn't know mobo was made in 2000). so it doesn't work. windows
crashes on boot with blue screen and BIOS doesn't show text (!), only
colored boxes :((((

I was told by salesman it would work at least as 128Mb. Since it
doesn't, does it mean SDRAM is broken? I got some guarantee, and
hopefully they will give me new one but it will be of the same type :(
If that new module works as 128Mb, is it safe to use it? (computer is
online 24/7)

BTW, I have only two slots and here are some details of my system,
just in case it helps you to help me :)

CPU-Z Report
------------------------------------
CPU-Z version 1.26.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name Intel Pentium III EB
Code Name Coppermine
Specification Intel Pentium III EB 666MHz
Family / Model / Stepping 6 8 3
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 2
Package Socket 370 FC-PGA
Core Stepping cB0
Technology 0.18 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 664.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 5.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 132.9 MHz
Bus Speed 132.9 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line
size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L2 Latency 0
L2 Speed 664.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 ECC Check enabled
L2 Data Prefetch Logic no
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer FUJITSU SIEMENS
Motherboard model D1170, S26361-D1170
BIOS vendor FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
BIOS revision 4.06 Rev. 1.10.1170
BIOS release date 10/27/2000
Chipset Intel i810E rev. A3
Southbridge Intel 82801AA (ICH) rev. 2

Memory
DRAM Type SDRAM
DRAM Size 128 MBytes
CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 2 clocks
RAS# Precharge 2 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 5 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 1
Module 0 Hyundai Electronics SDRAM PC100 - 128 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1
(Build 2600)
DirectX version 8.1b


From some checking, the intel 810 takes up to PC100 memory.
Here is a link to the PNY page:

http://www.pny.com/configurator/

If you cannot find your MB number, do a search on a Intel 810E.

Notice the note on the home page about PC133memory being no longer
backward compatible with PC100. SO i would say you need true PC100
memory. Maybe some further checking on single or double sided chips
would be in order to. Some poking around the Intel site on the 810
chipset specs might give you some more ideas.

Also, i would strongly advice upgrading your Windows XP to SP2 and all
the latest updates.

Bob

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Salvatore March 15th 05 03:16 AM

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:00:03 +0100, Pera Mitic wrote:

I have bought some new type SDRAM (256Mb, 133, NCP) although seller
told me it wouldn't work on pre-2001 motherboards (at that time I
didn't know mobo was made in 2000). so it doesn't work. windows
crashes on boot with blue screen and BIOS doesn't show text (!), only
colored boxes :((((

I was told by salesman it would work at least as 128Mb. Since it
doesn't, does it mean SDRAM is broken? I got some guarantee, and
hopefully they will give me new one but it will be of the same type :(
If that new module works as 128Mb, is it safe to use it? (computer is
online 24/7)

BTW, I have only two slots and here are some details of my system,
just in case it helps you to help me :)

CPU-Z Report
------------------------------------
CPU-Z version 1.26.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name Intel Pentium III EB
Code Name Coppermine
Specification Intel Pentium III EB 666MHz
Family / Model / Stepping 6 8 3
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 2
Package Socket 370 FC-PGA
Core Stepping cB0
Technology 0.18 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 664.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 5.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 132.9 MHz
Bus Speed 132.9 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 16 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 32 Bytes line
size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 32 Bytes line size
L2 Latency 0
L2 Speed 664.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 ECC Check enabled
L2 Data Prefetch Logic no
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer FUJITSU SIEMENS
Motherboard model D1170, S26361-D1170
BIOS vendor FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
BIOS revision 4.06 Rev. 1.10.1170
BIOS release date 10/27/2000
Chipset Intel i810E rev. A3
Southbridge Intel 82801AA (ICH) rev. 2

Memory
DRAM Type SDRAM
DRAM Size 128 MBytes
CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 2 clocks
RAS# Precharge 2 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 5 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 1
Module 0 Hyundai Electronics SDRAM PC100 - 128 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1
(Build 2600)
DirectX version 8.1b

You need LOW DENSITY PC133 memory. PC100 will not work as your FSB is
133MHZ and what you bought will only be seen as half of its capacity. Do
not know what would occur if you use it as it. Might be OK?? no
experience on that one.

I may have what you need if you are in the US.


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