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Hash: SHA1 Hello, i have a HP 1740A. Unfortunately it stopped working while it was showing the 1V calibration signal and i was changing the VOLT/DIV scale to increase its size on the screen. The screen stopped showing the signal and also i noticed that it is not anymore illuminated (changing the scale illumination doesn't change anything). I opened it and i can see that the cathodic tube shows an orange light and its brightness changes when i change the "scale illumination" but the screen keeps being "black" [without illumination]. Any idea about what might cause this? I checked all the Test Points where i could read the supposed voltage and all seems fine, unfortunately i do not have a service manual (i believe this is how you call those manuals for reparation purposes) so i could not test many other test points. Does anyone have the service manual for this oscilloscope and could send it to me by email? Thank you, ~ Luca P.S.: Sorry for my bad english. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with MultiZilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCC4VLliez+Z59f3URAlttAKCbRjjiWbBq0yANVAPERa v6YU6n0ACcC5DX k2/f33krr5si9OeM4RD7tRY= =wBxT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, i have a HP 1740A. Unfortunately it stopped working while it was showing the 1V calibration signal and i was changing the VOLT/DIV scale to increase its size on the screen. The screen stopped showing the signal and also i noticed that it is not anymore illuminated (changing the scale illumination doesn't change anything). I opened it and i can see that the cathodic tube shows an orange light and its brightness changes when i change the "scale illumination" but the screen keeps being "black" [without illumination]. Any idea about what might cause this? I checked all the Test Points where i could read the supposed voltage and all seems fine, unfortunately i do not have a service manual (i believe this is how you call those manuals for reparation purposes) so i could not test many other test points. Does anyone have the service manual for this oscilloscope and could send it to me by email? Thank you, ~ Luca P.S.: Sorry for my bad english. Basic modules of any scope; 1. power supplies;*first to be checked* 2. vertical deflection circuits 3. triggering 4. sweep(horizontal) deflection 5. CRT unblanking and intensity control If you can access the vertical and horizontal deflection CRT pins,you can short them (vert-vert,H to H) and see if you get a trace or spot on screen. If so,then you have a problem in the corresponding circuit.(short verticals and get trace=bad vertical amp).short horizontal pins and get spot=bad horiz or triggering) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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Hash: SHA1 Jim Yanik wrote: | Basic modules of any scope; | 1. power supplies;*first to be checked* This seems to work, at least the values that i could read on some test-points were correct, unfortunately i do not have a service manual or anything that would tell me what the correct voltages of other test-points are (i could only test the ones where their supposed voltage values is written on the board). | 2. vertical deflection circuits | 3. triggering | 4. sweep(horizontal) deflection | 5. CRT unblanking and intensity control | Sigh, i am absolutely ignorant about oscilloscopes and without a manual to tell me exactly what to do i am lost ![]() | If you can access the vertical and horizontal deflection CRT pins,you can | short them (vert-vert,H to H) and see if you get a trace or spot on screen. | If so,then you have a problem in the corresponding circuit.(short verticals | and get trace=bad vertical amp).short horizontal pins and get spot=bad | horiz or triggering) | I wish i knew where those pins are, i do not really feel like to short-circuit random pins. Sigh... anyone knows where i could find the service manual of this oscilloscope without having to buy a copy? Thank you for your answers, ~ Luca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with MultiZilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCDcU2liez+Z59f3URAnvmAJ9bFBFQODvZBzuHFGPlxj rGbCr0qwCfaPi7 l6TuOB7WgvKu+axWh6mk91I= =lsOt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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I studied the guide and found that if 15 volts of any flavor is an issue, the 120 volts will go awayt shutting down the HV cage. This is where the illumination and trace are provided. (HV Supply). So i printed off just the LV power supplu schematic. and found that the 122 volts was at 30 Volts. That told me shutdown. So I measured 43, ok 5 volts OK. -15 volts NOIPE .5 volts POSITIVE. Certainly knew this was wrong, so on the schematic I see a 3500MFD cap at 30 volts. Right across the output of the bridge rectifier. Checking this it was shorted at 1meg ohm. I am going to get one from someone now. To provce it was the -15 volt supply, I removed the triple connector board and measured the 120 volt line. Sure enough it came back. The -15 had risen and the IC3 got hot to touch. Testing the transistor, it was OK. I hope the IC is OK. I will just get a new cap now. Don't plug in the scope with the cap out of the circuit. There is 20+ volts there that will probably take out the IC or the diode zener for 10Volts. Brad |
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