Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs. Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

"mac" wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

Doesn't the digital receiver have an analog output?

N

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Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs. Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

EBay?

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Connect the CATV Wire to the RF input of the set, it will receive all the
stations that are not pay-per-view or premium stations. That is if you have
paid for the basic cable service. Otherwise maybe an outside antenna??
Seeing that you have an active Comcast High-Seed ISP then we may presume
that you also have at least basic cable services? Normally the cable will
supply television channels in the same area that they are supplying
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Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

EBay?

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I just have regular analog set but need to be able to get the new digital
broasdcasts without buying a new
costly digital tv.
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"mac" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

Doesn't the digital receiver have an analog output?

N

I don't have cable.......I receive over the air tv.
"Art" wrote in message
...
Connect the CATV Wire to the RF input of the set, it will receive all the
stations that are not pay-per-view or premium stations. That is if you
have paid for the basic cable service. Otherwise maybe an outside
antenna??
Seeing that you have an active Comcast High-Seed ISP then we may presume
that you also have at least basic cable services? Normally the cable will
supply television channels in the same area that they are supplying
Internet Service.
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ews.com...
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to the cited author.]

In article ,
says...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

EBay?

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"mac" wrote in message
...
I don't have cable.......I receive over the air tv.

Search in "Consumer Electronics" on eBay for (digital analog) and keep
looking. Make sure it's what you want before bidding.

N

I use an RCA ATSC21 Set-top box with excellent results. I get over 15
freeze-free channels plus some not-so-strong... (I DO have to turn the
antenna) and that doesn't even include the subchannels - most DTV stations
are simulcasting several channesl in their digital transport stream. Street
price 6 mo. ago when I purch. was abt. $375, probably less now...
Basically, I can get all the major networks anytime I want - including NBC,
ABC, FOX, CBS, UPN, WB, PBS, and some independents...I was able to compare
an older Panasonic, and an older RCA DTC100 Settop box with a built-in
Directv receiver, and the ATSC21 outperformed them both by far. It handles
multipath the best of any I've seen, and is at least 6db more sensitive
than the 1999 model Panasonic (but then so are most newer STBs...) I've
also heard Samsung's TU-151 is a good unit, but have no personal experience
with it. (Also, I think I omitted some characters from the Samsung's model
number...) Zenith / LG electronics has a good one, too I hear... Hope this
helps.


"mac" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will pick
up the digital broadcast.


"Phil Bowser" wrote in message
...
I use an RCA ATSC21 Set-top box with excellent results. I get over 15
freeze-free channels plus some not-so-strong... (I DO have to turn the
antenna) and that doesn't even include the subchannels - most DTV stations
are simulcasting several channesl in their digital transport stream.
Street
price 6 mo. ago when I purch. was abt. $375, probably less now...
Basically, I can get all the major networks anytime I want - including
NBC,
ABC, FOX, CBS, UPN, WB, PBS, and some independents...I was able to compare
an older Panasonic, and an older RCA DTC100 Settop box with a built-in
Directv receiver, and the ATSC21 outperformed them both by far. It
handles
multipath the best of any I've seen, and is at least 6db more sensitive
than the 1999 model Panasonic (but then so are most newer STBs...) I've
also heard Samsung's TU-151 is a good unit, but have no personal
experience
with it. (Also, I think I omitted some characters from the Samsung's model
number...) Zenith / LG electronics has a good one, too I hear... Hope
this
helps.


"mac" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

Look on ebay for a used Hughes HD satellite receiver. You might find one
cheap that is not working as a satellite receiver. They have lots of
problems with the satellite tuners but the OTA tuner seems pretty reliable.
I have one in my shop that I use just for OTA reception.

Leonard

"mac" wrote in message
...
Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I
really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much
to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will
pick
up the digital broadcast.


"Phil Bowser" wrote in message
...
I use an RCA ATSC21 Set-top box with excellent results. I get over
15
freeze-free channels plus some not-so-strong... (I DO have to turn the
antenna) and that doesn't even include the subchannels - most DTV
stations
are simulcasting several channesl in their digital transport stream.
Street
price 6 mo. ago when I purch. was abt. $375, probably less now...
Basically, I can get all the major networks anytime I want - including
NBC,
ABC, FOX, CBS, UPN, WB, PBS, and some independents...I was able to
compare
an older Panasonic, and an older RCA DTC100 Settop box with a built-in
Directv receiver, and the ATSC21 outperformed them both by far. It
handles
multipath the best of any I've seen, and is at least 6db more sensitive
than the 1999 model Panasonic (but then so are most newer STBs...) I've
also heard Samsung's TU-151 is a good unit, but have no personal
experience
with it. (Also, I think I omitted some characters from the Samsung's
model
number...) Zenith / LG electronics has a good one, too I hear... Hope
this
helps.


"mac" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

Your right, of course about the price coming down, I'm sure it already
has since the time when I bought mine, and will continue to do so, as unit
supply begins exceeding demand, like VCRs for under $50... You just have to
be willing to wait. Personally, I am only interested in the major networks,
and live in an area where I receive many stations OTA. I cannot see paying
a $39.00 or more per month Cable or Directv bill, and would rather invest in
equipment like this instead. Looking at it from this point of view, it
would pay for itself in just a few months versus a cable or satellite bill.
I used to be a C-band subscriber because they at least let you buy channels
individually for a reasonable rate (usually $1.15 or so per desired channel
per month). I hate the fact that they (Cable, Directv, etc.) force a whole
group of channels down your throat with high rates, and in some cases the
"ONE" channel you may want is part of their $85/mo. group, etc... - It's
highway robbery. I am just stubborn enough that when free OTA TV is a thing
of the past, I probably will quit watching altogether. Unfortunately the
general public has proven overall that they are perfectly willing to pay for
TV, so I look to the future to hold even Terrestrial DTV signal scrambling,
with subscription fees. If you look at the structure of the digital data
transport stream, the ability to incorporate scrambling is already
incorporated! yuck...

"mac" wrote in message
...
Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I
really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much
to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will
pick
up the digital broadcast.

Might one of the cards for the PC help you out? My ATI HDTV wonder was
delivered for $178.There are also the Hauppage and DIVCO fusion cards.
You can check antennaweb.org for a list of the off-air stations in you
area. The Winegard square shooter antenna works well for me in the LA
area. My Samsung set top box also has a composite 480i output.
Glenn Gundlach

Thanks.........the Hughes HD receiver seems interesting. And to Leo....your
sentiments simuliar to mine.
Tanks to all.

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:04EId.33238$jn.13246@lakeread06...
Look on ebay for a used Hughes HD satellite receiver. You might find one
cheap that is not working as a satellite receiver. They have lots of
problems with the satellite tuners but the OTA tuner seems pretty
reliable.
I have one in my shop that I use just for OTA reception.

Leonard

"mac" wrote in message
...
Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I
really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much
to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will
pick
up the digital broadcast.


"Phil Bowser" wrote in message
...
I use an RCA ATSC21 Set-top box with excellent results. I get over
15
freeze-free channels plus some not-so-strong... (I DO have to turn the
antenna) and that doesn't even include the subchannels - most DTV
stations
are simulcasting several channesl in their digital transport stream.
Street
price 6 mo. ago when I purch. was abt. $375, probably less now...
Basically, I can get all the major networks anytime I want - including
NBC,
ABC, FOX, CBS, UPN, WB, PBS, and some independents...I was able to
compare
an older Panasonic, and an older RCA DTC100 Settop box with a built-in
Directv receiver, and the ATSC21 outperformed them both by far. It
handles
multipath the best of any I've seen, and is at least 6db more
sensitive
than the 1999 model Panasonic (but then so are most newer STBs...)
I've
also heard Samsung's TU-151 is a good unit, but have no personal
experience
with it. (Also, I think I omitted some characters from the Samsung's
model
number...) Zenith / LG electronics has a good one, too I hear... Hope
this
helps.


"mac" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs.
Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

I pretty much agree with you......but we probably wont stop watching. Tho
I,m definitely cutting back
or trying to hold the line on the escalating cost of these electronic
services. I remember $2.00 electricity
bills. I did not even have a phone until I had served four years in the
military and I made it fine with
less worrys than now.


"Phil Bowser" wrote in message
...
Your right, of course about the price coming down, I'm sure it already
has since the time when I bought mine, and will continue to do so, as unit
supply begins exceeding demand, like VCRs for under $50... You just have
to
be willing to wait. Personally, I am only interested in the major
networks,
and live in an area where I receive many stations OTA. I cannot see
paying
a $39.00 or more per month Cable or Directv bill, and would rather invest
in
equipment like this instead. Looking at it from this point of view, it
would pay for itself in just a few months versus a cable or satellite
bill.
I used to be a C-band subscriber because they at least let you buy
channels
individually for a reasonable rate (usually $1.15 or so per desired
channel
per month). I hate the fact that they (Cable, Directv, etc.) force a
whole
group of channels down your throat with high rates, and in some cases the
"ONE" channel you may want is part of their $85/mo. group, etc... - It's
highway robbery. I am just stubborn enough that when free OTA TV is a
thing
of the past, I probably will quit watching altogether. Unfortunately the
general public has proven overall that they are perfectly willing to pay
for
TV, so I look to the future to hold even Terrestrial DTV signal
scrambling,
with subscription fees. If you look at the structure of the digital data
transport stream, the ability to incorporate scrambling is already
incorporated! yuck...

"mac" wrote in message
...
Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I
really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much
to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will
pick
up the digital broadcast.

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:11:32 -0500, "mac"
wrote:

Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will pick
up the digital broadcast.


Now is a good time to buy one of these boxes. The new models have
just come out, so the old ones are on sale. I found a returned Zenith
HDTV box for $50 at circuit city last week. They can be had for as
little as $100 on ebay.

I agree that they will have to get a lot cheaper before everyone can
have one. It will also leave people in fringe areas out in the cold.
Even a very weak analog signal is usable, but it's all or nothing with
digital.
Andy Cuffe

-- Use this email address first

You got only two choices.

1). Get a digital box that converts to analog out for the standard to match
to your set.
2). Go out and buy a digital set.

Other than that, there is no way to make a TV set receive a signal that is
of completely different specs that what it was designed for.

Basically to do what you want to do without suggestions 1 and 2, you are
SOL.

One other thing... In order to have the digital services on your digital
box, you must be subscribed for these. Otherwise, in your situation, you can
only watch basic converted analog pictures, no matter what type of set you
have.

--

Jerry G.
=====

"mac" wrote in message
...
Can anyone tell me of a low cost way to get digital tv on analog tvs. Cable
is not available in my area and I don't
know where I can get a low cost converter. Thanks, Mac

"mac" wrote in message
...
Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I
really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much
to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will
pick
up the digital broadcast.



I doubt there will be much shock, people are already doing it all the time
with digital cable and satelite, if I had to guess I'd say that 99% of
digital TV reception is via one of those two mediums, I wasn't even aware
that digital over-air TV broadcasts even existed. I'm one of *very* few
people I know without cable or satelite, digital or not. These days you can
get most TV shows on DVD, excellent picture quality, no channel logos, along
with all the advantages of Tivo.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:40:49 GMT, "James Sweet"
wrote:


"mac" wrote in message
...
Sounds good except for the price of $375........Thanks, but for now I
really
can't afford anything near that
much. It will be a big shock if the public has to pay even 1/4 that much
to
use their old tv's in 2006 when
all tv stations are scheduled to broadcast in only digital format, as I
understand it. I could be wrong, but
I don't think the public is that close to being ready for it, unless
converter boxes come down drastically
from the above price, so that the tv s most people are using now will
pick
up the digital broadcast.



I doubt there will be much shock, people are already doing it all the time
with digital cable and satelite, if I had to guess I'd say that 99% of
digital TV reception is via one of those two mediums, I wasn't even aware
that digital over-air TV broadcasts even existed. I'm one of *very* few
people I know without cable or satelite, digital or not. These days you can
get most TV shows on DVD, excellent picture quality, no channel logos, along
with all the advantages of Tivo.

You forget that in many areas cable/satelite still don't offer the
local broadcast channels as part of their basic package.
Many will have to get a converter box and most will go into shock if
they have to pay more than 50 bucks for it.
Unless the cost of digital sets go down drastically I'll be sticking
with my old ntsc set.( Paying over a grand for a tv is IMO pure
insanity, I don't care how good the picture is.)

I doubt there will be much shock, people are already doing it all the
time
with digital cable and satelite, if I had to guess I'd say that 99% of
digital TV reception is via one of those two mediums, I wasn't even aware
that digital over-air TV broadcasts even existed. I'm one of *very* few
people I know without cable or satelite, digital or not. These days you
can
get most TV shows on DVD, excellent picture quality, no channel logos,
along
with all the advantages of Tivo.

You forget that in many areas cable/satelite still don't offer the
local broadcast channels as part of their basic package.
Many will have to get a converter box and most will go into shock if
they have to pay more than 50 bucks for it.
Unless the cost of digital sets go down drastically I'll be sticking
with my old ntsc set.( Paying over a grand for a tv is IMO pure
insanity, I don't care how good the picture is.)


Where does cable not offer the local channels?

The must-carry appears to me to be either the digital OR analog but not
both. See
http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/Broadc...0032&oliID=213
Glenn Gundlach

In article ,
mac wrote:
I just have regular analog set but need to be able to get the new digital
broasdcasts without buying a new
costly digital tv.

You're in the USA?

The buzzwords are "Terrestrial HDTV Receiver" and/or "HDTV set top box".
Looking around, last month or three, the current cheapest one is the
Samsung SIR-T351. The local Frys had one, but no price tag and I didn't
feel like talking to the guys in the white shirts. Circuit City has
them on their web site. On the Web they seem to be about $250-$350.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

I don't have cable.......I receive over the air tv.

How can we help if you don't even tell us which
state/country you are in

Here in the UK we have digital TV via cable, satellite,
and terrestrial transmission

In all 3 cases a normal TV is connected to a set top box receiver/decoder

In the case of digital terrestrial TV cheap set top boxes are readily
available,
even from supermarkets

--
Graham.



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