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Shawn D'Alimonte
 
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Default LaserJet III Paper Jams

My old LJIII has started jamming again (13 PAPER JAM) and I am stuck
figuring out what the problem is.

The paper either stops right before the transfer assembly roller, or a
bit before the fuser. If it passes the rollers a loop tends to form
between the pickup roller and transfer roller and sometimes it starts
feeding a second sheet. I don't see why it feeds a second sheet since
the engine test is only one page. The paper feed mechanism seems to
have gotten noisier as well, but I can't figure out the source of the noise.

What I have tried so far (based on Google searches and previous repairs):
- Checked and cleaned pickup roller and separation pad (Fairly new,
printer not used a lot).
- Cleaned transfer rollers (These were filthy)
- Checked all gears for missing teeth
- Tried another toner cartridge
- Disassembled, cleaned and greased clutches on pickup and transfer
roller shafts (Grease was gunked up)
- Cleaned gummed up pads on clutch solenoids (Temporarily replaced pads
with tape until I can find something better)
- Checked drive motor connector
- Cleaned gears attached to motor (Grease was gunked up)

Have I missed anything obvious or is it time for a new(er) printer?
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:51:58 -0500, Shawn D'Alimonte wrote:
My old LJIII has started jamming again (13 PAPER JAM) and I am stuck
figuring out what the problem is.


Here, too:
comp.periphs.printers
comp.sys.hp.hardware

And, you have searched Google Groups for this, haven't you?

Jonesy
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Shawn D'Alimonte
 
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Allodoxaphobia wrote:
comp.periphs.printers
comp.sys.hp.hardware


Thanks for the hint.

And, you have searched Google Groups for this, haven't you?


I did. That is where I got the idea to check the clutches and try a
different cartridge.
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Neil Preston
 
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I had a batch of links to LJIII printer repair, but all but one are now
dead. Have you run across this one?

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/


Good luck,
Neil


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My old LJIII has started jamming again (13 PAPER JAM) and I am stuck
figuring out what the problem is.

The paper either stops right before the transfer assembly roller, or a
bit before the fuser. If it passes the rollers a loop tends to form
between the pickup roller and transfer roller and sometimes it starts
feeding a second sheet. I don't see why it feeds a second sheet since
the engine test is only one page. The paper feed mechanism seems to
have gotten noisier as well, but I can't figure out the source of the

noise.

What I have tried so far (based on Google searches and previous repairs):
- Checked and cleaned pickup roller and separation pad (Fairly new,
printer not used a lot).
- Cleaned transfer rollers (These were filthy)
- Checked all gears for missing teeth
- Tried another toner cartridge
- Disassembled, cleaned and greased clutches on pickup and transfer
roller shafts (Grease was gunked up)
- Cleaned gummed up pads on clutch solenoids (Temporarily replaced pads
with tape until I can find something better)
- Checked drive motor connector
- Cleaned gears attached to motor (Grease was gunked up)

Have I missed anything obvious or is it time for a new(er) printer?



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Neil Preston wrote:
I had a batch of links to LJIII printer repair, but all but one are now
dead. Have you run across this one?

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/


I have looked at that site since they do have good FAQs as well as
repair kits.

I did some more debugging and found that the motor sometimes has trouble
turning even when removed from the gears. You can feel it vibrate but
the shaft doesn't turn much.

When turned by hand the shaft turns smoothly. The coils measure okay
with an ohmmeter (~4ohm to centre tap, no short between coils, all coils
have same resistance). I also hooked the motor up to my scope and got a
slightly distorted sine wave from each coil when I spun the shaft. All
four coils had the same shape and voltage (using centre taps as ground).
I think the motor itself is good.

I tried putting a scope on the motor terminals and one of them does look
different. Maybe the driver IC is bad, which probably means a new DC
power supply. I need to do a little more debugging on this or start
shopping for another printer.


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Try this site!

http://thelaserguys.com/







"Shawn D'Alimonte" wrote in message
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My old LJIII has started jamming again (13 PAPER JAM) and I am stuck
figuring out what the problem is.

The paper either stops right before the transfer assembly roller, or a bit
before the fuser. If it passes the rollers a loop tends to form between
the pickup roller and transfer roller and sometimes it starts feeding a
second sheet. I don't see why it feeds a second sheet since the engine
test is only one page. The paper feed mechanism seems to have gotten
noisier as well, but I can't figure out the source of the noise.

What I have tried so far (based on Google searches and previous repairs):
- Checked and cleaned pickup roller and separation pad (Fairly new,
printer not used a lot).
- Cleaned transfer rollers (These were filthy)
- Checked all gears for missing teeth
- Tried another toner cartridge
- Disassembled, cleaned and greased clutches on pickup and transfer roller
shafts (Grease was gunked up)
- Cleaned gummed up pads on clutch solenoids (Temporarily replaced pads
with tape until I can find something better)
- Checked drive motor connector
- Cleaned gears attached to motor (Grease was gunked up)

Have I missed anything obvious or is it time for a new(er) printer?



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Just have to say, the LaserJetIII are real work horses, just like their
predecessors, the IIs. Great for text and simple black&white images. I bought
my first one from Computer Shopper back in 1990 four about $1,100. Picked up
another one just a few months ago for $25.00.

BobbyB
Tucson, AZ

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