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toshiba m-651 vcr with noisy HI-FI
Hi all,
EET here doing some fun garage repair to add some stuff to my a/v system. I picked up this Toshiba M-651 VCR at a second-hand store for $20.00 (with the original remote!). This machine is built like a tank (reminds me of my JVC HR-910U which is still going strong after two belt replacements and replacing a bad electrolytic in the RF/IF Stages.) Anyway I brought this Toshiba home and started to assess the reason why the sticker said "as-is". Everything works fine on this machine except for the "popping/dro-outs" in HI-FI mode when playing a tape (doesn't matter if it is pre-recorded or home recorded)(and the HI-FI output amp works perfectly in TV mode) and the video is rock solid and clear (which I understand is normal when During early stages of Video Head wear because the HI-FI heads wear first since they protrude farther out from the cylinder). At this point I am starting to assume that the HI-FI heads are worn on upper cylinder. But! I did do all of my "standard checks" listed below first before deciding to type this topic up and verify my diagnosis with "the more experienced" members of the repair group. 1. Checked and cleaned all belts (looks like they've been replaced recently) 2. cleaned pinch roller and capstan post (not too bad but maybe in a couple of years I would replace the pinch roller. the capstain post is nice and snug (no sign of bearing wear). 3. cleaned Video and ACE Heads. No improvement in HI-FI sound. 4. I "gently tweaked" the ACE head for possible drift. ACE head drifts out of HI-FI mode pretty uniformaly in all directional adjustments. So, it seems "well centered". I know I should use a scope, but I have fixed about 8 of these for friends who used the "well it really just like a big cassette deck approach" and misaligned their machines. I use the same ACE alignment method outlined in the Sci.Electronics VCR Repair FAQ on ACE head adjustment without a scope. 5. Tweaked right and left guide posts (last resort that I know of before assuming bad video heads). No improvement. 6. Downloaded the VCR Repair FAQ to make sure I did everything I could with the limited equipment I have. (Fluke meter, LC meter). 7. Checked Linear stereo mode and sound is clear and channel separation is good. So I humbly ask the more experienced if my conclusion is right and I need to dump the $20.00 on a new video head from MCM? Please understand that I have no problem putting $45.00 into this VCR as I love the older "tank-built" VCRs and this toshiba would probably cost $200.00 or more to buy new (if any body would make a good VCR like this today...). I also humbly wish to ask another dumb question since I have never done a video head replacement before. That question is this: When I order this part from MCM, will I be getting a new upper cylinder with the video and HI-FI heads "built-in". Or will I be getting the Heads that I will have to install into my existing upper cylinder and then reinstall that onto the lower drum assembly. I know this might seem like a dumb question, but the way the "terminology" and the "buzz words" get thrown around in the books and on the net I can't seem to get a clear picture regarding that. Many thanks for anyone who will take the time to help. John Z. |
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maybe im not correct on this , but if you have a good picture , why are you
replacing the video head assy , arent the audio heads on the other side of the tape path on a block rather than the big video disk? |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:53:29 -0500, "AshTray700"
wrote: maybe im not correct on this , but if you have a good picture , why are you replacing the video head assy , arent the audio heads on the other side of the tape path on a block rather than the big video disk? The linear (poorer) audio is, but the hifi audio is accessible via heads on the rotating drum, just like the video. Dave |
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