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jake johnson November 25th 04 10:52 PM

Older Zenith 27": selecting video input
 
My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
and today I hooked a DVD player up to its video inputs. Amazingly,
there doesn't seem to be a way via remote control or otherwise to
select this video input. Apparently, I'm not the only one since I've
seen newsgroup postings for this same issue but they haven't included
the solution for me at least. I've turned it to Channel 1 but it
doesn't show the DVD signal. I've gone to Ch 2 and pressed Ch Down
and it pauses for a second but then goes to Ch 125 which is staticy.
The menu doesn't really have much and definitely doesn't cover video
input.

My brother (previous owner) couldn't remember how to get it to work,
but he did have a DVD player plugged into it from what he said (and it
would work). I didn't get the manual with the TV.

Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
DVD player with this TV.

NSM November 25th 04 11:32 PM


"jake johnson" wrote in message
om...
| My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
| and today I hooked a DVD player up to its video inputs. Amazingly,
| there doesn't seem to be a way via remote control or otherwise to
| select this video input. ...

FWIW, I have a much older RCA which uses Ch's 90, 91 and 92 for video in.

N



Andy Cuffe November 26th 04 12:12 AM

On 25 Nov 2004 14:52:58 -0800, (jake johnson)
wrote:

My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
and today I hooked a DVD player up to its video inputs. Amazingly,
there doesn't seem to be a way via remote control or otherwise to
select this video input. Apparently, I'm not the only one since I've
seen newsgroup postings for this same issue but they haven't included
the solution for me at least. I've turned it to Channel 1 but it
doesn't show the DVD signal. I've gone to Ch 2 and pressed Ch Down
and it pauses for a second but then goes to Ch 125 which is staticy.
The menu doesn't really have much and definitely doesn't cover video
input.



A Zenith of that age should have an input button on the remote. It
might also be labeled something like source, or TV/video. There's a
slight chance that entering channel 0 will take you to the A/V input.
Andy Cuffe


Chaos Master November 26th 04 04:27 AM

jake johnson is, and always will be:
My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
and today I hooked a DVD player up to its video inputs. Amazingly,
there doesn't seem to be a way via remote control or otherwise to
select this video input. Apparently, I'm not the only one since I've
seen newsgroup postings for this same issue but they haven't included
the solution for me at least. I've turned it to Channel 1 but it
doesn't show the DVD signal. I've gone to Ch 2 and pressed Ch Down
and it pauses for a second but then goes to Ch 125 which is staticy.
The menu doesn't really have much and definitely doesn't cover video
input.


Try changing to Channel 0 using the remote...

I remember some TV's that used this.

[]s
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NSM November 26th 04 06:04 AM


"jake johnson" wrote in message
om...
| My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
....
| Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
| DVD player with this TV.

Another idea. Have the DVD hooked up and playing then have the TV scan for
channels if it does that.

N



jake johnson November 26th 04 12:17 PM

"NSM" wrote in message news:WHzpd.3919$VL6.1605@clgrps13...
"jake johnson" wrote in message
om...
| My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
...
| Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
| DVD player with this TV.

Another idea. Have the DVD hooked up and playing then have the TV scan for
channels if it does that.

N


Yep... unfortunately, I've tried channel 0 and the others... and the
channel scan idea. I'm thinking I need to unplug the TV from the wall
plug until it loses its setup so that it can get powered up with the
DVD player connected and retry these ideas. The remote control does
have a 'source' button but its for the VCR section of the remote. It
has no effect in TV mode. I'm really surprised how tough this is.

Andy Cuffe November 26th 04 04:35 PM

On 26 Nov 2004 04:17:43 -0800, (jake johnson)
wrote:


Yep... unfortunately, I've tried channel 0 and the others... and the
channel scan idea. I'm thinking I need to unplug the TV from the wall
plug until it loses its setup so that it can get powered up with the
DVD player connected and retry these ideas. The remote control does
have a 'source' button but its for the VCR section of the remote. It
has no effect in TV mode. I'm really surprised how tough this is.



Even though the source button in by the VCR controls, it should
operate the TV when the remote is in TV mode. Are you SURE it's the
TV's original remote? If it's a universal remote, it could be
programmed for the wring code. Have you looked in the menu for a
source selection? You could try calling Zenith customer service.
This shouldn't be that hard to figure out.

One unlikely possibility is that the setting in the service menu that
tells the TV which features it has got changed. I've seen this a
couple of times on Zenith TVs.
Andy Cuffe


Matthew P. Cummings November 26th 04 05:08 PM

(jake johnson) wrote in message . com...
Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
DVD player with this TV.


The remote should have a button labeled TV/VCR/Source. That is how
it's done from a remote. From within the TV menu you just select the
source option. I don't have one in front of me so just generically go
into the menu and look for something that indicates what source you
want to watch.

Another poster suggested autoprogramming the TV which would work as
long as well if you do not have one of those DVD players that also
puts out on Ch 3/4 and have it hooked up to the coaxial input.

jake johnson November 27th 04 12:19 AM

(Matthew P. Cummings) wrote in message om...
(jake johnson) wrote in message . com...
Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
DVD player with this TV.


The remote should have a button labeled TV/VCR/Source. That is how
it's done from a remote. From within the TV menu you just select the
source option. I don't have one in front of me so just generically go
into the menu and look for something that indicates what source you
want to watch.

Another poster suggested autoprogramming the TV which would work as
long as well if you do not have one of those DVD players that also
puts out on Ch 3/4 and have it hooked up to the coaxial input.


Yes, its the Zenith original remote and it does have a TV/VCR/Source
button but it has no function in TV mode. There isn't really a 'TV
menu' in a strict sense, but the menus that do exist are for selecting
Antenna or Cable, programming, and picture-related controls. That's
about it. I've attached a VCR to the video inputs and still no joy.
About the closest I come is the second's delay that occurs when I Ch
Down from Ch2 (which I thought was where the video input would be
found), but then it falls on static on Ch1. I even added Ch1 through
the menu but this made no difference.

I'm getting the impression that there might be something wrong which
might be causing the inability to select the video input (as strange
as that would be). The only visible problem with the TV is that
there's a reddish haze in the picture between areas of contrast.

Anyways, I appreciate the help.

RonKZ650 November 27th 04 02:12 AM

There is always a menu available on the front panel to select video input, or
below channel 2 (or 1) will select video. Since you've already tried this stuff
with no success, my guess would be somone has gotten into the service menu and
messed with it or the main module has been changed and never set up correctly.
It's possible to enable or disable the video inputs through the service menu to
suit different models, some of which didn't use the video jacks.
Ron

jake johnson November 27th 04 12:40 PM

ospam (RonKZ650) wrote in message ...
There is always a menu available on the front panel to select video input, or
below channel 2 (or 1) will select video. Since you've already tried this stuff
with no success, my guess would be somone has gotten into the service menu and
messed with it or the main module has been changed and never set up correctly.
It's possible to enable or disable the video inputs through the service menu to
suit different models, some of which didn't use the video jacks.
Ron


Would you know how I could enter the service menu to possibly
re-enable the video inputs? Thanks.

- Jake

David Harris November 27th 04 12:51 PM

Ummmm.

How about a model numer of the television?

David, on the Illinois prairie.

RonKZ650 November 27th 04 03:01 PM

Ummmm.

How about a model numer of the television?


Yea, I read back and see it's a 1997 model, but get the model number posted and
there's probably an easy step to take to fix the problem.

HEC Service November 27th 04 03:02 PM

Could be the S-video option has been disabled via the customer menu.
This is done so that only the inputs in use are accessible.

Siggy
Home Entertainment Centre





On 26 Nov 2004 16:19:42 -0800, (jake johnson)
wrote:

(Matthew P. Cummings) wrote in message om...
(jake johnson) wrote in message . com...
Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
DVD player with this TV.


The remote should have a button labeled TV/VCR/Source. That is how
it's done from a remote. From within the TV menu you just select the
source option. I don't have one in front of me so just generically go
into the menu and look for something that indicates what source you
want to watch.

Another poster suggested autoprogramming the TV which would work as
long as well if you do not have one of those DVD players that also
puts out on Ch 3/4 and have it hooked up to the coaxial input.


Yes, its the Zenith original remote and it does have a TV/VCR/Source
button but it has no function in TV mode. There isn't really a 'TV
menu' in a strict sense, but the menus that do exist are for selecting
Antenna or Cable, programming, and picture-related controls. That's
about it. I've attached a VCR to the video inputs and still no joy.
About the closest I come is the second's delay that occurs when I Ch
Down from Ch2 (which I thought was where the video input would be
found), but then it falls on static on Ch1. I even added Ch1 through
the menu but this made no difference.

I'm getting the impression that there might be something wrong which
might be causing the inability to select the video input (as strange
as that would be). The only visible problem with the TV is that
there's a reddish haze in the picture between areas of contrast.

Anyways, I appreciate the help.



Z Man November 27th 04 04:51 PM

Input selection should be on the same sub menu as cable/ant.
You should be able to toggle through all inputs with the source button,
or through the menu
If it (AV inputs, S inputs) is/are not there, go to service menu, try
changing the environment parameter.
To get to service menu, press and hold menu til menu goes off screen,
push 9-8-7-6-enter


Andy Cuffe November 27th 04 07:17 PM

On 26 Nov 2004 16:19:42 -0800, (jake johnson)
wrote:

(Matthew P. Cummings) wrote in message om...


Yes, its the Zenith original remote and it does have a TV/VCR/Source
button but it has no function in TV mode. \


Weel, then something is not right. The TV/VCR/Source button will
select the A/V input on all 1997 Zenith TVs. Since it's not, there's
either something wrong with the TV, or the remote.

Andy Cuffe


Dimitrios Tzortzakakis November 28th 04 08:10 PM

That was when they invented forks.When the VCR was tuned to the zero channel
(with RF modulator) and there was no scart connection (in Europe).Sometimes
you have to pull the antenna plug, when the signal of the (VCR)DVD
interferes with one of the channels.

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "Chaos Master" ?????? ??? ??????
t...
jake johnson is, and always will be:
My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
and today I hooked a DVD player up to its video inputs. Amazingly,
there doesn't seem to be a way via remote control or otherwise to
select this video input. Apparently, I'm not the only one since I've
seen newsgroup postings for this same issue but they haven't included
the solution for me at least. I've turned it to Channel 1 but it
doesn't show the DVD signal. I've gone to Ch 2 and pressed Ch Down
and it pauses for a second but then goes to Ch 125 which is staticy.
The menu doesn't really have much and definitely doesn't cover video
input.


Try changing to Channel 0 using the remote...

I remember some TV's that used this.

[]s
--
Chaos Master®, posting from somewhere near Porto Alegre, Brazil.
"... one either has a ****, or not. Do you have yours?"
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
http://marreka.blogspot.com -- news, hotter than high-power transistors!

To reply remove "DEAD-SPAM" from address.




Dimitrios Tzortzakakis November 28th 04 08:12 PM

Modern DVDs have no RF modulator.No chance with scanning and channel
zero.You can get though an RF modulator for less than 15 euro. here.

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitriïs
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
Ï "NSM" Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá
news:WHzpd.3919$VL6.1605@clgrps13...

"jake johnson" wrote in message
om...
| My brother gave me this Zenith 27" TV (built in '97) about a year ago
...
| Anyways, I'd be very thankful if anyone can tell me how I can use my
| DVD player with this TV.

Another idea. Have the DVD hooked up and playing then have the TV scan for
channels if it does that.

N





Dimitrios Tzortzakakis November 28th 04 08:14 PM

Something similar happened to a customer of mine.They didn't have the
original remote, so they have to literally pull the antenna plug of the wall
(the signal of one channel is too strong and interferes with the vcr).I told
'em to get a new tv.In av mode, the tv shows a black screen.Anyway, who
needs a tv when there's the internet?

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "Andy Cuffe" ?????? ??? ??????
...
On 26 Nov 2004 04:17:43 -0800, (jake johnson)
wrote:


Yep... unfortunately, I've tried channel 0 and the others... and the
channel scan idea. I'm thinking I need to unplug the TV from the wall
plug until it loses its setup so that it can get powered up with the
DVD player connected and retry these ideas. The remote control does
have a 'source' button but its for the VCR section of the remote. It
has no effect in TV mode. I'm really surprised how tough this is.



Even though the source button in by the VCR controls, it should
operate the TV when the remote is in TV mode. Are you SURE it's the
TV's original remote? If it's a universal remote, it could be
programmed for the wring code. Have you looked in the menu for a
source selection? You could try calling Zenith customer service.
This shouldn't be that hard to figure out.

One unlikely possibility is that the setting in the service menu that
tells the TV which features it has got changed. I've seen this a
couple of times on Zenith TVs.
Andy Cuffe




Dimitrios Tzortzakakis November 28th 04 08:17 PM

Yes, actually.10,000 hours of tv watching, the poor zenith is about to be
pensioned.

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitri?s
major in electrical engineering, freelance electrician
FH von Iraklion-Kreta, freiberuflicher Elektriker
dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
? "Andy Cuffe" ?????? ??? ??????
...
On 26 Nov 2004 16:19:42 -0800, (jake johnson)
wrote:

(Matthew P. Cummings) wrote in message

om...

Yes, its the Zenith original remote and it does have a TV/VCR/Source
button but it has no function in TV mode. \


Weel, then something is not right. The TV/VCR/Source button will
select the A/V input on all 1997 Zenith TVs. Since it's not, there's
either something wrong with the TV, or the remote.

Andy Cuffe




jake johnson November 30th 04 12:53 PM

ospam (RonKZ650) wrote in message ...
Ummmm.

How about a model numer of the television?


Yea, I read back and see it's a 1997 model, but get the model number posted and
there's probably an easy step to take to fix the problem.


Sorry for the delay. The closest thing I can come to a model number
is 'Z27A12S'. Its on a white sticker on the back of the set which
includes things like the serial number but its not prefaced with
'model' so I can't be absolutely sure that its the model number, but
it looks like it is.

thanks-

David Harris December 1st 04 07:13 PM

(jake johnson) wrote in message
Sorry for the delay. The closest thing I can come to a model number
is 'Z27A12S'.


That is a good model number. I think the most likely thing to
solve your problem is to make sure you have a remote with the proper
button, which is usually labeled "tv/vcr source"

Less likely is that the micro has been reset to a lower feature
level that does not recognize the audio/video input. This can only be
done by removing the back, jumping a connector, entering the service
menu and making the change. I would say the chances of this having
been done are pretty slim, and if so, you need the help of an
experienced servicer to make the change.

If I were you, I would throw it in the car, take it into a Zenith
servicer, and have them figure this out in about five seconds. Then
be sure to thank them graciously for their knowledge.

David, on the Illinois prairie.


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