On Wed, 26 May 2021 05:07:49 -0700 (PDT), "Peter W."
wrote:

I have put stuff on "curb-alert" with Craig's List with 100% success - defined as *stuff gone within five (5) days*. This includes everything from old toilets & sinks to questionable electronics. Anything that has even a smidgen of residual appeal (to me) goes to Kutztown for the Buy-it-Now pile.

Good to see there is some sort of plan though. Not everone has such
(judging by the things that are perfectly ok after *just* being
cleaned out or a fuse replaced).

The most amazing(ly awful) stuff gets a new home from that source.

;-)


But, I agree that for the most part, many things find their way to landfill due to very minor failures combined, the rarity of good repair options,

I like the idea of the 'repair workshops' where people bring stuff
along and volunteers try to fix it for the cost of any parts and a
charity donation or similar?

and the cheapness of replacements.

What get's me is also when the replacement cost is pretty high many
just seem to chuck stuff away for the simplest of things (not to them
obviously), or worse (unless someone else can get to it and make use
of it etc), when there is nothing wrong with it but just last years
model or not a colour that matches their new decor. ;-(

I picked up a small Dyson cylinder cleaner that had been bought by
someone, apparently it had gone wrong and a new motor fitted, then had
gone wrong again and so given away on Freegle with 'needs repairing,
possibly a new motor'). I collected it, plugged it in at home, wiggled
the lead where it goes into the (moulded) mains plug, heard the motor
spin up briefly so just cut the lead off by the plug and fitted a new
one and it's been fine ever since. And this is probably around 200
GBP's worth of cleaner!?

I was chatting to a good mate last night and he commented on how many
people seem to be ignorant of even the most basic of 'life knowledge
and so 'of course' anything that relies on such knowledge would then
be a complete mystery to them ('everone to their own' of course). ;-)

Like without Ohms law, or a basic understanding of material science,
or the environment, or energy ... how could you then make informed
judgments on anything that relied on such?

I have had an electric car for over 30 years and you wouldn't believe
how often I've had the suggestion of 'Why don't you fit a dynamo on
one of the wheels and that would charge you up as you go along'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

Commander Kinsey wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I found a 70s Commodore Pet (8KB RAM) going for 3 grand!

Its much higher with the earlier stuff.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

Why? Presumably they break it for materials, like with any electronics.

There isnt much of any real value in a CRT tv.

Even the glass isnt of any real value because
its very specialised glass and there is plenty of
much more useful glass with used drink bottles.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

We have fibre optics.

We do too and all the new stuff is, but we also have VDSL2+
and so do you. I could have said the original better.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

I virtually never use my wifi.

I do for the smartphone which I use all the time
and for the kindle and for all the fully automated
lights etc and for all the stuff like echo dots, google
home minis and for the video surveillance too.

It's only for the mobile phone, and only because I run science projects on
it which would eat 4G data.

Yep, you are a real dinosaur tech wise.

Commander Kinsey wrote
micky wrote
Rod Speed wrote
micky wrote

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

Depends on what it is. Quite a decent market for early personal
computers and some more specialised stuff like SCSI cards etc.

I actually found a recycler in driving distance
who claims he will even take my CRT tvs.

That's certainly a bit dubious.

I know, except for some weird situation I won't
find, no one wants a CRT TV but what about....

A westell DSL modem Hub

None here, we have moved to VDSL2+ now.

Might still be some demand there.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping,
but does that mean anyone can use it?

They can if they still have a dsl service.

My wifi router.

Some do still use those as wifi access points to get more wifi access in
their house.

a router without wifi?

A few do still use those.

(bought by mistake at a hamfest, when
I didn't notice it had no antenna. Otherwise
it looked just like the one I was using.

Thanks everyone. The guy who says he'll take the CRT tvs will also
thaek everything else electronic, AC or battery, and I'm going to use
what I find in this thread and decide how much other stuff to take to
him and how much to dispose of elsewhere.

A guy rang my doorbell a few weeks ago having spotted a few car batteries
(well 1 car battery and 4 sealed ones from a UPS) lying at the side of my
garage (17m from the pavement) and asked if I wanted rid of them. I think
you can get a fiver each in bulk, I know someone pays £2 each to a local
garage to take dead ones from there, and presumably he makes a profit.

I've arranged to borrow a pickup to deliver to him, and there's a
hamfest the Sunday before that where I can just give some of the lighter
stuff to any vendor who might want to sell it and keep what little he
gets money.

(One year I had my own "booth" (tarp) for two days at the Gaithersburg
hamfest, and I did pretty well. Over night, I just left evefrything
there, with prices marked and a couple things were sold, with the money
put under the tarp. Nothing expensive.

I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%,

then you pay shipping.

Or the buyer does.

If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The local facebook buy swap sell groups work much better.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff,

Depends on what it is. No one ever
wants the old CRT tvs or monitors.

and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Same with the local facebook groups.

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 12:53:24 +0100, "Commander
Kinsey" wrote:


I guess IIUC UPS would wrap things for shipping if I sold on ebay, but
I'm not ready for that yet.

Has to be a fair price to bother with that. Ebay take 10%, then you pay shipping. If it's not going to make a profit, put it on freecycle,

The freecycle here is dying away. Get far fewer emails from them than 5
years ago. Though someone did take my gas lawnmower on Monday, and I
got a small stack of Handyman magazines yesterday.

But those are exceptions.

there will be someone who wants to play with old stuff, and you don't have to bother packing it, they come and collect it.

Ebay reaches more people. Those here who read Freecycle, or NextDoor,
or a community webpage I could use, don't know how to fiddle with any of
my old stuff.

"micky" wrote in message
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 26 May 2021 09:34:42 +0100, Mike Coon
wrote:

In article , NONONOmisc07
says...

Is there any "market" for old electronics, even for free?

I actually found a recycler in driving distance who claims he will even
take my CRT tvs.

Maybe there's a market for recycled vacuum? ;-)

When I was a schoolboy in the UK back in the 1950s, local kids would
carry CRTs over a girder bridge across a town river in order to drop
them some distance to the water where they would implode.

I averted my eyes as I walked past (to school) in case one got cracked
on the girders while still being held by the child...

I would not litter but I have broken open a couple CRT tvs,
one to see the shadow screen (is that what it's called?)

Shadow mask.

that color tvs had with one hole for every 3 dots. The other
was a 6 or 8" tv and I broke away enough of the neck and
adjoining glass to plant a plant in it. The thing grew really
well, and I wonder if the phosphorus was responsible.

No drainage at the screen end, so I had to be carfeful not to overwater.

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On Wed, 26 May 2021 15:02:44 -0400, micky mouse, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered again:


The freecycle here is dying away.

Let's hope all you troll-feeding senile asshole will do so too, quickly!

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On 5/24/2021 8:59 PM, micky wrote:
A westell DSL modem Hub

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Westell-Wir...-/153433002888
still offered for $20 plus 9 shipping, but does that mean anyone can
use it?

If you have ADSL... I still have 3M DSL from the telco... I bought my
older used modem on eBay a couple years ago.