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My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing
apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). |
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On Saturday, 13 January 2018 21:59:49 UTC, Mary-Jane Rottencrotch wrote:
On 2018-01-13 13:29, wrote: Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. Does it not have USB ports? Disregarding the utter ridiculousness of still using Windows 98 in 2018, it supports USB just fine (since Windows 95 OSR 2.1, around 1997 - 21 years ago nearly). 98 usb support is not ideal, though it works adequately with nusb3.1 installed. The point is that USB mice are not readable by 98 era machines until the OS has booted and loaded the USB driver. P/S2 & D9 mice are superior in this respect. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). Well what sort of switch is it? The crystal ball is a bit cloudy on this one. Yes, either open the switch and clean the contacts or replace it. And always have a spare mouse, they never last forever. FWIW with ball mice, the earlier D9 ones generally work much better IME. NT |
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:53:13 -0500, Tom Biasi
wrote: On 1/13/2018 4:29 PM, wrote: My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). Walmart has a USB mouse for $4.79 USD You get a "F" for reading comprehension. ![]() I SAID: I need a PS/2 mouse. I probably have 4 USB mice, which are not suitable for my needs. I did just find they make adaptors, to convert a USB mouse to PS/2. I ordered one on ebay for about $3. But until I get it, I have to keep fighting with this mouse, which works fine for awhile, then refuses to do anything till I beat the crap out of that button a dozen times or more..... Tomorrow I plan to go to Goodwill. They usually have mice.... I'll probably buy several of them, if they have any PS/2 ones. Seems that are getting hard to find.... I never understood the reasoning for USB mice or keyboards. Many computers only have 2 USB ports. Why waste them for a mouse or keyboard when there are PS/2 ports.... One of my computers had both a USB mouse and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these are more "Designed by idiots" products. |
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On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 4:32:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). The switch inside is called a tact-switch and these are readily available and can be installed easily by anyone with soldering skills. The switches themselves are not "cleanable" typically. In most cases the small metal diaphragm gets fatigued and won't work properly. These switches usually cost less than $1 Dan |
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On 1/13/2018 5:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:53:13 -0500, Tom Biasi wrote: On 1/13/2018 4:29 PM, wrote: My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). Walmart has a USB mouse for $4.79 USD You get a "F" for reading comprehension. ![]() I SAID: I need a PS/2 mouse. I probably have 4 USB mice, which are not suitable for my needs. I did just find they make adaptors, to convert a USB mouse to PS/2. I ordered one on ebay for about $3. But until I get it, I have to keep fighting with this mouse, which works fine for awhile, then refuses to do anything till I beat the crap out of that button a dozen times or more..... Tomorrow I plan to go to Goodwill. They usually have mice.... I'll probably buy several of them, if they have any PS/2 ones. Seems that are getting hard to find.... I never understood the reasoning for USB mice or keyboards. Many computers only have 2 USB ports. Why waste them for a mouse or keyboard when there are PS/2 ports.... One of my computers had both a USB mouse and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these are more "Designed by idiots" products. I never even considered that would be a problem. I guess it was for you. Sorry I was of no help. You have antique equipment and just thought you could make use of modern available devices. |
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On 1/13/18 8:31 PM, Tom Biasi wrote:
It's just another BS post from this AH. Ayup. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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On 1/13/2018 9:57 PM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
On 1/13/18 8:31 PM, Tom Biasi wrote: It's just another BS post from this AH. Ayup. It's not my nature to say these things Jeff but I'm a little off my game today. |
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On 14/01/2018 7:16 AM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
On 1/13/18 4:50 PM, wrote: Tomorrow I plan to go to Goodwill. They usually have mice.... Predominately PS/2 mice and keyboards. One of my computers had both a USB mouse and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these are more "Designed by idiots" products. You do know they make USB hubs right? Cue to question from yesteryear "What's hub and will it work on my win98?" |
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On 1/13/18 9:09 PM, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 14/01/2018 7:16 AM, Fox's Mercantile wrote: On 1/13/18 4:50 PM, wrote: Tomorrow I plan to go to Goodwill. They usually have mice.... Predominately PS/2 mice and keyboards. One of my computers had both a USB mouse and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these are more "Designed by idiots" products. You do know they make USB hubs right? Cue to question from yesteryear "What's hub and will it work on my win98?" Well yeah. Notwithstanding, here's the USB to PS/2 adapter you need. https://www.ebay.com/itm/252486083292 And for your 2-USB Port box, you can buy one of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/112496332260 That will free up the 2nd USB port for you flash drives. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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On Saturday, 13 January 2018 22:53:27 UTC, wrote:
I did just find they make adaptors, to convert a USB mouse to PS/2. I ordered one on ebay for about $3. Sometimes those work, sometimes not. It depends on what the mouse & PC are capable of. I never understood the reasoning for USB mice or keyboards. Many computers only have 2 USB ports. Why waste them for a mouse or keyboard when there are PS/2 ports.... One of my computers had both a USB mouse and keyboard, and only had 2 USB ports. In order to use a flash drive I had to keep unplugging either the mouse or keyboard.... Apparently these are more "Designed by idiots" products. It's a bit cheaper to lose the ps/2 ports, and end users assume USB mice are somehow better, although they're really worse. And fwiw you can plug the mouse & keyboard into any usb port. NT |
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On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 1:03:23 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 15:38:35 -0800 (PST), wrote: The switch inside is called a tact-switch and these are readily available and can be installed easily by anyone with soldering skills. The switches I always regret throwing stuff away. I have tossed several mice over the years that probably still had usable switches. Yeah, but... there's flat buttons and raised ones, 5mm square and 8mm square, surface mount and through-hole, and probably a dozen other variants. Sometimes the switch is just like one in my (sizeable) junque collection, sometimes not. Every old dead VCR has a dozen, but that's not a dozen different types, just a dozen examples. Sometimes, too, it's a plastics-getting-sticky problem, and the switch is fine if you just smear a tiny bit of silicone grease where the friction is. |
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On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 1:32:27 PM UTC-8, wrote:
My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). Are you sure it doesn't have a broken solder joint on the switch? Years of clicking could cause cracking. G² |
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On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 11:35:22 AM UTC-5, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 15:29:53 -0600, wrote: My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. Visit your local 2nd-hands shops: GoodWill, ARC, Salvation Army, etc. Lots of widows donate the geezer's old computer stuff and there are often many old mice handing from peg boards in those stores. This. Every thrift store I've been to has a dozen mice at $1 each. You could probably make a deal for a bulk buy. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:53:13 -0500, Tom Biasi wrote: On 1/13/2018 4:29 PM, wrote: My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). Walmart has a USB mouse for $4.79 USD You get a "F" for reading comprehension. ![]() I SAID: I need a PS/2 mouse. I probably have 4 USB mice, which are not suitable for my needs. I did just find they make adaptors, to convert a USB mouse to PS/2. I ordered one on ebay for about $3. But until I get it, I have to keep fighting with this mouse, which works fine for awhile, then refuses to do anything till I beat the crap out of that button a dozen times or more..... Searching around forNOS might dig up a ball mouse from when they came with an adaptor - I had a few left over from various things and found they're not universal. if it came in the same box as the device - it should work. I'd get some cheap mice from flea markets until I found the right spare switch to salvage. Ball mice didn't work for me because i used to be a heavy smoker. the optical ones rarely work on proper mouse mats, but they work perfectly on a sheet of plain white paper. just stick a sheet on the mouse mat with carpet tape and trim round the edges. |
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![]() "Sjouke Burry" wrote in message ... On 13-1-2018 22:29, wrote: My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). I have replaced some of those switches in a few mice. The electronic lab had them in stock. So somebody is selling them. Couple of years ago I looked at the several boxes of mice and decided enough is enough. most of the switches got used on E-cigarettes. |
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~misfit~ wrote on 1/14/2018 6:37 AM:
Once upon a time on usenet wrote: My mouse left button is getting real flakey. I took the whole thing apart and cleaned everything. It still dont work all the time, so I guess that switch is going bad. There dont seem to be any place to get some contact cleaner inside of it. Have any of you ever found a way to repair these switches? Yea, I know computer mice are cheap, but I need a PS/2 connector and want a ball mouse. I dont like the infared mice, and can not use a USB mouse on my Windows 98 computer. So, I have to order this on ebay since all the ones in the stores are USB and infared these days. So, until I can get one from ebay, is there any temporary fix? (The other mouse functions work fine). I just got a packet of 10 mouse switches from Aliexpress for $3. I don't think he'll buy from Aliexpress, too cheap and he doesn't like the free shipping you can get. All kidding aside, he doesn't like buying Chinese when he can get a part sold in the USA even though they are all the same parts. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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On 1/14/18 4:05 PM, rickman wrote:
he doesn't like buying Chinese when he can get a part sold in the USA even though they are all the same You haven't been paying attention. He buys Chinese all the time, he's too cheap to buy American. He just rags on them non-stop to show he's a real patriotic American. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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"Notwithstanding, here's the USB to PS/2 adapter you need.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/252486083292 " Those pretty much do not work. It may have the correct wiring but the USB drivers must be installed, and if they are then the problem is solved. I remember building a 98 PC for a buddy of mine. After all the ordering of components, it was off to the local PC store for a few things. They talked him into a USB keyboard. I said "Just how fast can you type ?" but he got talked into it anyway. Problem was he wanted to use a power on password which of course won't work in 98 with a USB keyboard. The same is true of USB keyboards as well as mice. The wires in the adapter plug are not the whole story. You should still be able to find an optical PS/2 mouse. I have one. Even though I run XP on that box it works just fine, lucky in light of the fact that I have boot drive select on that machine. |
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"Sometimes those work, sometimes not. It depends on what the mouse & PC are capable of. "
The adapter is just a plug to a plug. It either needs USB drivers or some software to convert the PS/2 mouse port to a USB mouse port. Such software does exist, as does for regular serial to UBS (I beet performance sucks) and parallel to USB (common on printers of a certain vintage. |
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On Monday, 15 January 2018 02:05:09 UTC, wrote:
NT: "Sometimes those work, sometimes not. It depends on what the mouse & PC are capable of. " The adapter is just a plug to a plug. It either needs USB drivers or some software to convert the PS/2 mouse port to a USB mouse port. Such software does exist, as does for regular serial to UBS (I beet performance sucks) and parallel to USB (common on printers of a certain vintage. I've used such adaptors with many mice. Some work off the bat, some won't. Why? Because mice generally have the ability to work with either of 2 port types, though which 2 varies. (That means if you cut off a mouse's plug and wire on a different type, sometimes it will work.) Early Win3.1 era mice were DB9 only. For years most mice did PS/2 or USB. NT |
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Once upon a time on usenet Fox's Mercantile wrote:
On 1/14/18 4:05 PM, rickman wrote: he doesn't like buying Chinese when he can get a part sold in the USA even though they are all the same You haven't been paying attention. He buys Chinese all the time, he's too cheap to buy American. He just rags on them non-stop to show he's a real patriotic American. So a Trump voter then? -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM*." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) (*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) |
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On 1/14/18 9:47 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Fox's Mercantile wrote: On 1/14/18 4:05 PM, rickman wrote: he doesn't like buying Chinese when he can get a part sold in the USA even though they are all the same You haven't been paying attention. He buys Chinese all the time, he's too cheap to buy American. He just rags on them non-stop to show he's a real patriotic American. So a Trump voter then? Probably not, but he certainly appears ignorant enough -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:27:08 +0530, Archer wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 16:50:52 -0600, wrote: ISAID: I need a PS/2 mouse. There are USB 2 PS/2 adaptors so you can easily go with a USB mouse once you have the adaptor. And PS/2 mice are really getting scarce. Saturday I ordered one of the adaptors on ebay. It's just a matter of waiting till it arrives. It was like $3.50. Funny thing, yesterday this mouse was getting on my nerves with that failing switch. I took the insulated handle of a plyers and smacked that button really hard. Its been working flawlessly ever since..... But I still plan to get another one or more.... I'm sure this one will eventually fail. But at least it will hopefully work till I get my adaptor or another PS/2 mouse. |
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