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Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 5:05 PM:
On 2018-01-03, harry newton wrote: He who is Jolly Roger said on 3 Jan 2018 06:25:53 GMT: Get some new material, old foolish troll. Think about Troll, troll, troll your boat... I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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On 2018-01-03, rickman wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 5:05 PM: On 2018-01-03, harry newton wrote: He who is Jolly Roger said on 3 Jan 2018 06:25:53 GMT: Get some new material, old foolish troll. Think about Troll, troll, troll your boat... I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. "Gosh, I KNOW, right? And anyone who calls out a racist for being a racist *is* racist, y'all!" Bull**** reasoning. The asshole currently known as "Harry Newton" has been trolling the Apple news groups and belittling complete strangers in them literally for hours a day for years now. He constantly changes his name to avoid kill filters and pollutes the otherwise peaceful Apple news groups with lame trolls filled with lies and misguided opinions. Here's an incomplete list (and counting) of his names: Paul B. Andersen, Adair Bordon, Liam O'Connor, Juan Camilo Blanco, Alphonse Arnaud, Danny D., Vinny Perado, Whitney Ryan, Tony Cito, Adam H. Kerman, Werner Obermeier, Steven Bornfeld, Winston_Smith, Mitch Kaufmann, Paul M. Cook, E. Robinson, Alice J., P. Ng, Tam Nguyen, VPN user, Joe Clock, Marob Katon, Chris Rangoon, AArdvarks, Conradt, Gustl Hoffmann, Henry Jones, Tatsuki Takahashi, AL, Horace Algier, Karl Schultz, Arthur Conan Doyle, Algeria Horan, Horace Algier, Raymond Spruance III, Martin Chuzzlewit II, John Harmon, Yanis Bernard, Stijn De Jong, Abe Swanson, Misha Vasiliev, Tomos Davies, Chaya Eve, Lionel Muller, Roy Tremblay, Frank S, Chaya Eve, Blake Snyder, harry newton, Harold Newton Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM:
Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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On Jan 3, 2018, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article ): On 2018-01-03, wrote: Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 5:05 PM: On 2018-01-03, harry wrote: He who is Jolly Roger said on 3 Jan 2018 06:25:53 GMT: Get some new material, old foolish troll. Think about Troll, troll, troll your boat... I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. "Gosh, I KNOW, right? And anyone who calls out a racist for being a racist *is* racist, y'all!" Bull**** reasoning. The asshole currently known as "Harry Newton" has been trolling the Apple news groups and belittling complete strangers in them literally for hours a day for years now. He constantly changes his name to avoid kill filters and pollutes the otherwise peaceful Apple news groups with lame trolls filled with lies and misguided opinions. Here's an incomplete list (and counting) of his names: Paul B. Andersen, Adair Bordon, Liam O'Connor, Juan Camilo Blanco, Alphonse Arnaud, Danny D., Vinny Perado, Whitney Ryan, Tony Cito, Adam H. Kerman, Werner Obermeier, Steven Bornfeld, Winston_Smith, Mitch Kaufmann, Paul M. Cook, E. Robinson, Alice J., P. Ng, Tam Nguyen, VPN user, Joe Clock, Marob Katon, Chris Rangoon, AArdvarks, Conradt, Gustl Hoffmann, Henry Jones, Tatsuki Takahashi, AL, Horace Algier, Karl Schultz, Arthur Conan Doyle, Algeria Horan, Horace Algier, Raymond Spruance III, Martin Chuzzlewit II, John Harmon, Yanis Bernard, Stijn De Jong, Abe Swanson, Misha Vasiliev, Tomos Davies, Chaya Eve, Lionel Muller, Roy Tremblay, Frank S, Chaya Eve, Blake Snyder, harry newton, Harold Newton Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! Also, the cross posts to unrelated groups, and groups where he anticipates some sort of support, and/or validation, are a pretty good clue as to the trollish nature of posts from the Santa Clara nymshifter. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 1/3/18 5:19 PM, rickman wrote:
No, I'm just calling it like I see it.Â* You jumped into a reasonable conversation There has been nothing reasonable about this conversation. It's been 100% Harry against the world. And anyone that even slightly disagrees with him is called a variety of names. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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On Jan 3, 2018, rickman wrote
(in article ): Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? The source of the troll is the OP not JR, and guess who the OP is in this thread. None other than the nymshifting troll from Santa Clara County. He provides nothing constructive, just his never ending anti-Apple posts. I for one have decided to not respond to him, particularly given the toxicity, and of his posts to the Apple NGs. Recently I have responded to one of his posts to r.p.d. which appeared to be benign, and where he had used yet another nymshift. I did not believe that particular post was a troll, but one which sought an answer to a legitimate question. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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In article , rickman
wrote: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation there is no reasonable conversation with 'harry' or whatever other nym he's using. |
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On 2018-01-03, rickman wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation On the contrary, your vaunted so-called "reasonable discussion" is part of a campaign of pure troll posts about iOS throttling functionality that was initially cross-posted to irrelevant newsgroups (sci.electronics.repair, and android) by a well-known nym-shifting Apple-hating troll with a LONG track record in the Apple newsgroups of attacking complete strangers merely because they call him out on his lies. Either you are unaware of this, or you are actively ignoring it. Either way, you're wrong. making five (not four, my mistake) posts Post counts for this thread (at the moment): Harry: 16 (Under two different nyms, at that.) Others: 15 Me: 4 (Oh my! This is a problem!) complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish" Others have done a sufficient job of both debunking his lies and calling out his trolls in this thread, but I guess they don't count for you. Or do you not read anyone's posts but mine and "Harry's"? Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. If "junior" offends you, I'm sorry but you're a snowflake. Grow a thicker skin. It was meant to convey you are new to the Apple news groups; and I have little doubt you are since I don't recall seeing your posts here in many years. If you think "junior" is bad, you should see what the troll currently known as "Harry" has to say about the regulars in the Apple news groups that call him out on his lies. It'll no doubt blow your fragile mind. ; ) You are currently the problem Projection. Stop supporting established trolls. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On 2018-01-03, Savageduck wrote:
On Jan 3, 2018, Jolly Roger wrote (in article ): On 2018-01-03, wrote: I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. "Gosh, I KNOW, right? And anyone who calls out a racist for being a racist *is* racist, y'all!" Bull**** reasoning. The asshole currently known as "Harry Newton" has been trolling the Apple news groups and belittling complete strangers in them literally for hours a day for years now. He constantly changes his name to avoid kill filters and pollutes the otherwise peaceful Apple news groups with lame trolls filled with lies and misguided opinions. Here's an incomplete list (and counting) of his names: Paul B. Andersen, Adair Bordon, Liam O'Connor, Juan Camilo Blanco, Alphonse Arnaud, Danny D., Vinny Perado, Whitney Ryan, Tony Cito, Adam H. Kerman, Werner Obermeier, Steven Bornfeld, Winston_Smith, Mitch Kaufmann, Paul M. Cook, E. Robinson, Alice J., P. Ng, Tam Nguyen, VPN user, Joe Clock, Marob Katon, Chris Rangoon, AArdvarks, Conradt, Gustl Hoffmann, Henry Jones, Tatsuki Takahashi, AL, Horace Algier, Karl Schultz, Arthur Conan Doyle, Algeria Horan, Horace Algier, Raymond Spruance III, Martin Chuzzlewit II, John Harmon, Yanis Bernard, Stijn De Jong, Abe Swanson, Misha Vasiliev, Tomos Davies, Chaya Eve, Lionel Muller, Roy Tremblay, Frank S, Chaya Eve, Blake Snyder, harry newton, Harold Newton Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! Also, the cross posts to unrelated groups, and groups where he anticipates some sort of support, and/or validation, are a pretty good clue as to the trollish nature of posts from the Santa Clara nymshifter. "...but no let's ignore all of that and instead concentrate on why the regulars in the Apple newsgroups are *complaining* about his trolling. Clearly *that* is the problem here!" ****ing idiot. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On 2018-01-03, Savageduck wrote:
On Jan 3, 2018, rickman wrote (in article ): Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? The source of the troll is the OP not JR, and guess who the OP is in this thread. None other than the nymshifting troll from Santa Clara County. He provides nothing constructive, just his never ending anti-Apple posts. I for one have decided to not respond to him, particularly given the toxicity, and of his posts to the Apple NGs. I should too, and I often refrain, but sometimes he steps in such a huge pile of his own ****, it's hard not to laugh. Recently I have responded to one of his posts to r.p.d. which appeared to be benign, and where he had used yet another nymshift. I did not believe that particular post was a troll, but one which sought an answer to a legitimate question. He's *never* posted in the Apple newsgroups without a clear agenda against the people in those newsgroups. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On Jan 3, 2018, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article ): On 2018-01-03, wrote: On Jan 3, 2018, rickman wrote (in article ): Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? The source of the troll is the OP not JR, and guess who the OP is in this thread. None other than the nymshifting troll from Santa Clara County. He provides nothing constructive, just his never ending anti-Apple posts. I for one have decided to not respond to him, particularly given the toxicity, and of his posts to the Apple NGs. I should too, and I often refrain, but sometimes he steps in such a huge pile of his own ****, it's hard not to laugh. Recently I have responded to one of his posts to r.p.d. which appeared to be benign, and where he had used yet another nymshift. I did not believe that particular post was a troll, but one which sought an answer to a legitimate question. He's *never* posted in the Apple newsgroups without a clear agenda against the people in those newsgroups. Agreed. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Rick:
Some people (you, for instance) need a clue-stick liberally applied before they *get* it. The likes of Jimmy Neutron are not common, but they are much like Kudzu or Crown Vetch - once rooted, very difficult to expunge, and highly destructive to native life. Accordingly, a certain amount of vigilance is necessary as there are always innocents out there ready to be victimized. The proper approach is to salt the earth around him such that he cannot set those roots. There is no defending such - I suggest you look up the fable of the fox and the scorpion. It is Newton/Neutron's nature to be a troll, and nothing you can do will change that nature. Don't feed it, don't support or defend it, just burn the roots, salt the earth, and move on. And if you cannot do even that much, stay the hell out of the way of those *with* the flame-throwers and salt-spreaders. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Savageduck wrote on 1/3/2018 6:43 PM:
On Jan 3, 2018, rickman wrote (in article ): Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? The source of the troll is the OP not JR, and guess who the OP is in this thread. None other than the nymshifting troll from Santa Clara County. He provides nothing constructive, just his never ending anti-Apple posts. I for one have decided to not respond to him, particularly given the toxicity, and of his posts to the Apple NGs. Recently I have responded to one of his posts to r.p.d. which appeared to be benign, and where he had used yet another nymshift. I did not believe that particular post was a troll, but one which sought an answer to a legitimate question. I don't know about toxicity, but the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them. I will be ignoring Roger. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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Rick:
Yet another application of the Clue Stick is required. Ignoring known trolls works for those who know of and understand the troll. But that emphatically does not work when the troll attempts to root in fresh ground. And, there is always fresh ground. Glad that you will be ignoring things - that will let those who are willing to warn the unwary get on with it, without the likes of you attempting to validate the troll. Are you on the spectrum? Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Savageduck wrote on 1/3/2018 6:26 PM:
On Jan 3, 2018, Jolly Roger wrote (in article ): On 2018-01-03, wrote: Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 5:05 PM: On 2018-01-03, harry wrote: He who is Jolly Roger said on 3 Jan 2018 06:25:53 GMT: Get some new material, old foolish troll. Think about Troll, troll, troll your boat... I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. "Gosh, I KNOW, right? And anyone who calls out a racist for being a racist *is* racist, y'all!" Bull**** reasoning. The asshole currently known as "Harry Newton" has been trolling the Apple news groups and belittling complete strangers in them literally for hours a day for years now. He constantly changes his name to avoid kill filters and pollutes the otherwise peaceful Apple news groups with lame trolls filled with lies and misguided opinions. Here's an incomplete list (and counting) of his names: Paul B. Andersen, Adair Bordon, Liam O'Connor, Juan Camilo Blanco, Alphonse Arnaud, Danny D., Vinny Perado, Whitney Ryan, Tony Cito, Adam H. Kerman, Werner Obermeier, Steven Bornfeld, Winston_Smith, Mitch Kaufmann, Paul M. Cook, E. Robinson, Alice J., P. Ng, Tam Nguyen, VPN user, Joe Clock, Marob Katon, Chris Rangoon, AArdvarks, Conradt, Gustl Hoffmann, Henry Jones, Tatsuki Takahashi, AL, Horace Algier, Karl Schultz, Arthur Conan Doyle, Algeria Horan, Horace Algier, Raymond Spruance III, Martin Chuzzlewit II, John Harmon, Yanis Bernard, Stijn De Jong, Abe Swanson, Misha Vasiliev, Tomos Davies, Chaya Eve, Lionel Muller, Roy Tremblay, Frank S, Chaya Eve, Blake Snyder, harry newton, Harold Newton Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! Also, the cross posts to unrelated groups, and groups where he anticipates some sort of support, and/or validation, are a pretty good clue as to the trollish nature of posts from the Santa Clara nymshifter. This isn't my first rodeo. I've seen a number of ham groups destroyed by this sort of behavior. One person is accused of being a troll, but they aren't really a problem. They make their posts and people either read them or ignore them. The problem arises when vigilantes try to "deal" with the problem by turning the topic from the original to being about the accused troll. Instead of solving anything, they make the problem 10 times worse. That is what's going on here. I was reading the thread and considering the issues in the discussion until someone threw a turd in the punch bowl. The presence of the "enforcers" is more disruptive than the original thread. It should be very easy to killfile the offender and/or the entire thread. Oh, but then someone on the Internet would be wrong without knowing it! https://xkcd.com/386/ I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 14:46:48 -0500, rickman
wrote: Savageduck wrote on 1/3/2018 6:43 PM: On Jan 3, 2018, rickman wrote (in article ): Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? The source of the troll is the OP not JR, and guess who the OP is in this thread. None other than the nymshifting troll from Santa Clara County. He provides nothing constructive, just his never ending anti-Apple posts. I for one have decided to not respond to him, particularly given the toxicity, and of his posts to the Apple NGs. Recently I have responded to one of his posts to r.p.d. which appeared to be benign, and where he had used yet another nymshift. I did not believe that particular post was a troll, but one which sought an answer to a legitimate question. I don't know about toxicity, but the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them. I will be ignoring Roger. First, there has never been a reasonable conversation with the person to whom Roger was responding He really is an inveterate troll with nothing to add to this newsgroup. I have kill filed every nym that he uses that's identifiable and will continue. We each have a decision to make regarding trolls. In this case JR has decided to point out the troll. That is effective in warning other posters. You will be missing some interesting and edifying posts if you ignore Roger. |
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On 1/4/18 1:57 PM, rickman wrote:
I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. It won't until you killfile harry newton. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 3:39:21 PM UTC-5, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
On 1/4/18 1:57 PM, rickman wrote: I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. It won't until you killfile harry newton. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com Until it changes its name. |
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On 2018-01-04, rickman wrote:
Savageduck wrote on 1/3/2018 6:26 PM: On Jan 3, 2018, Jolly Roger wrote (in article ): On 2018-01-03, wrote: Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 5:05 PM: On 2018-01-03, harry wrote: He who is Jolly Roger said on 3 Jan 2018 06:25:53 GMT: Get some new material, old foolish troll. Think about Troll, troll, troll your boat... I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. "Gosh, I KNOW, right? And anyone who calls out a racist for being a racist *is* racist, y'all!" Bull**** reasoning. The asshole currently known as "Harry Newton" has been trolling the Apple news groups and belittling complete strangers in them literally for hours a day for years now. He constantly changes his name to avoid kill filters and pollutes the otherwise peaceful Apple news groups with lame trolls filled with lies and misguided opinions. Here's an incomplete list (and counting) of his names: Paul B. Andersen, Adair Bordon, Liam O'Connor, Juan Camilo Blanco, Alphonse Arnaud, Danny D., Vinny Perado, Whitney Ryan, Tony Cito, Adam H. Kerman, Werner Obermeier, Steven Bornfeld, Winston_Smith, Mitch Kaufmann, Paul M. Cook, E. Robinson, Alice J., P. Ng, Tam Nguyen, VPN user, Joe Clock, Marob Katon, Chris Rangoon, AArdvarks, Conradt, Gustl Hoffmann, Henry Jones, Tatsuki Takahashi, AL, Horace Algier, Karl Schultz, Arthur Conan Doyle, Algeria Horan, Horace Algier, Raymond Spruance III, Martin Chuzzlewit II, John Harmon, Yanis Bernard, Stijn De Jong, Abe Swanson, Misha Vasiliev, Tomos Davies, Chaya Eve, Lionel Muller, Roy Tremblay, Frank S, Chaya Eve, Blake Snyder, harry newton, Harold Newton Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! Also, the cross posts to unrelated groups, and groups where he anticipates some sort of support, and/or validation, are a pretty good clue as to the trollish nature of posts from the Santa Clara nymshifter. This isn't my first rodeo. I've seen a number of ham groups destroyed by this sort of behavior. One person is accused of being a troll, but they aren't really a problem. Harry has consistently and methodically disrupted the Apple news groups with campaigns consisting of sometimes tens of separate threads at a time, often with multiple nyms at a time, and more often than not cross-posted to completely irrelevant groups, and you pop your head in to claim they aren't a ****ing problem. What ****ing planet are you on that trolls of the worst kind aren't really a ****ing problem? They make their posts and people either read them or ignore them. You're definitely not from around here, boy. This particular troll has polluted these otherwise peaceful Apple newsgroups on a regular basis with hundreds of posts under numerous and never-ending names to avoid kill filters filled with misinformation and antagonizing and attacking anyone who dare disagree or call him out on his bare-faced lies. And they aren't just harmful little interactions that people can just ignore, especially considering he *regularly* nym switches to avoid filtering. The problem arises when vigilantes try to "deal" with the problem by turning the topic from the original to being about the accused troll. No, the problem already existed. Whenever (which is constantly) it becomes plainly obvious that "Harry" actively *ignores* and *disputes* anything anyone says about the topic at hand that disagrees with his lies, and attacks them instead, people *naturally* start examining his character. His stubborn refusal to accept anything but his anti-Apple position on a topic *forces* others to look at his personality faults as an explanation for what might cause a person his age to literally spend hours upon hours *daily* writing long, rambling, laborious posts where he antagonizes and belittles complete strangers simply because he dislikes Apple and people who use Apple devices. Instead of solving anything, they make the problem 10 times worse. Projection. Victim blaming makes the problem ten times worse. That is what's going on here. You're ignorant of the actual situation, and deluded. I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. LOL! Enjoy "Harry's" trolls, idiot. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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Fox's Mercantile wrote on 1/4/2018 3:39 PM:
On 1/4/18 1:57 PM, rickman wrote: I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. It won't until you killfile harry newton. Unlike you, I was learning something about the topic issue until I was sidetracked by the multiple troll accusation posts. In this thread Harry's posts are on topic at least. How about we just don't respond to the posts we don't like? I don't see any value in discussing this further, so I won't be replying to posts about the trolling going on and in particular to posts containing personal insults. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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nospam wrote on 1/4/2018 5:05 PM:
In article , rickman wrote: It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. actually, it's extremely unusual. trolls post for a reaction, not for content. And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. I guess that shows he isn't trolling. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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On 2018-01-04, rickman wrote:
wrote on 1/4/2018 3:27 PM: First, there has never been a reasonable conversation with the person to whom Roger was responding He really is an inveterate troll with nothing to add to this newsgroup. I have kill filed every nym that he uses that's identifiable and will continue. We each have a decision to make regarding trolls. In this case JR has decided to point out the troll. That is effective in warning other posters. JR has gone *far* beyond pointing out a troll. Yes, yes, folks. I am the devil incarnate! I have dared to give the troll a taste of his own ****ing medicine! Surely this is a worse offense than the attacks from the troll himself! I HAVE BECOME PURE EVIL! MUAHAHAHAAA!! : D Let me assure you, coming from someone who is new to the Apple newsgroups, your completely misguided opinion means OH SO MUCH!! Thank you for enlightening the group with your supreme instant wisdom, Rick, man! -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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nospam wrote on 1/3/2018 8:38 AM:
In article , harry newton wrote: but remember this is an Apple-only problem nope. it's a battery chemistry issue which affects android and any other device that uses a battery. there is *no* avoiding it. *every* battery ages. Yes, but it doesn't have to impact the operation of the product in the first year. A well designed product would be sized to continue to operate as the battery ages. I've had laptop batteries that worked nearly as well as new for two or three years. Do you not understand the issue? Apple would seem to have either not given this attention in the design stage (indicating incompetence) or they made a conscious decision to allow battery deterioration to impact the operation of the phone in the first year of operation (with potential warranty issues). -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
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On 2018-01-04, rickman wrote:
Fox's Mercantile wrote on 1/4/2018 3:39 PM: On 1/4/18 1:57 PM, rickman wrote: I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. It won't until you killfile harry newton. Unlike you, I was learning something about the topic issue until I was In this thread The extent of Harry's trolling of the Apple news groups extends far beyond this thread, junior. You're clueless. How about we just don't respond to the posts we don't like? Ah, is that what you did with my posts? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On 2018-01-04, rickman wrote:
nospam wrote on 1/4/2018 5:05 PM: In article , rickman wrote: It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. actually, it's extremely unusual. trolls post for a reaction, not for content. And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. No, they were filled with lies, like: "Apple basically admitted today they permanently chopped CPU speeds in half" The CPU speed isn't only cut in half, but on a curve, and it's not permanent but only when the device is doing something that specifically requires more current than the battery can supply, and only on devices with batteries that are on the way out. And: "they were trying to secretly mask defective batteries" No evidence of that, and the feature in question was specifically mentioned in the iOS release notes - hardly a secret. I guess that shows he isn't trolling. No, it doesn't. You, on the other hand, are in very shady territory and company. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 5:17:15 PM UTC-5, rickman wrote:
nospam wrote on 1/3/2018 8:38 AM: Yes, but it doesn't have to impact the operation of the product in the first year. A well designed product would be sized to continue to operate as the battery ages. I've had laptop batteries that worked nearly as well as new for two or three years. Do you not understand the issue? Apple would seem to have either not given this attention in the design stage (indicating incompetence) or they made a conscious decision to allow battery deterioration to impact the operation of the phone in the first year of operation (with potential warranty issues). Rick C Dayum, but you know next-to-nothing about battery chemistry and/or the aging process. Knowing now that you are likely unencumbered by the thought process (insult) and likely on the Spectrum (not an insult, but a reach for an explanation for your apparent-deliberate ignorance), batteries age. They age in two ways: a) Not able to deliver the necessary amperage at a given voltage for as long as before. b) Not able to deliver sufficient voltage as before. Subset: voltage is OK, but the amperage is not. This is true of every kind of chemical battery from a liquid lead-acid battery used for backing up POTS systems to a Tesla battery. I keep radio-control submarines. On them, I have a device that reads the state of the battery, and if it goes critical, immediately surfaces the boat, and will not permit diving. I can determine the age of the battery by when that happens on a run. Again, this is a chemical issue true of every kind of chemical battery over time. Cell phones make heavy demands on batteries depending on what they are asked to do. Some simply cannot meet that demand with an old battery, and so 'limit' the phone much as the "Sub-Safe" device does. That Apple explained this badly is the issue. Not what happened. Getting back to Jimmy Neutron - he offered a Conspiracy-Based explanation for an obvious phenomenon in order to light off his personal tempest in his virtual teapot. It was neither thoughtful, nor offered as a basis for actual discussion. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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wrote: It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. actually, it's extremely unusual. trolls post for a reaction, not for content. And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. how so? nothing he's written has any basis in fact (despite his claims otherwise). he is regularly proven wrong. he claims things can't be done on ios or macs even though it's been explained to him *exactly* how to do it. he snips to alter context to avoid admitting he's full of ****. I guess that shows he isn't trolling. nope. what it shows is that you'll believe anything without verifying it. |
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wrote: It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. actually, it's extremely unusual. trolls post for a reaction, not for content. And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. No, they were filled with lies, like: "Apple basically admitted today they permanently chopped CPU speeds in half" The CPU speed isn't only cut in half, but on a curve, and it's not permanent but only when the device is doing something that specifically requires more current than the battery can supply, and only on devices with batteries that are on the way out. yep. put simply, the peaks are clipped. for everyday tasks that don't push it hard, such as reading email or web surfing, there is no slowdown. And: "they were trying to secretly mask defective batteries" No evidence of that, and the feature in question was specifically mentioned in the iOS release notes - hardly a secret. they were actually trying to *extend* the life of batteries. |
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wrote: but remember this is an Apple-only problem nope. it's a battery chemistry issue which affects android and any other device that uses a battery. there is *no* avoiding it. *every* battery ages. Yes, but it doesn't have to impact the operation of the product in the first year. it doesn't. it's not based on how old it is. it depends on the battery health and the specific power demands at the time. A well designed product would be sized to continue to operate as the battery ages. exactly what it does. I've had laptop batteries that worked nearly as well as new for two or three years. 'nearly as well' means there's a noticeable effect. laptop batteries also have a *much* higher capacity than what's in a phone and capable of much higher peaks. they are also powering a different processor with different power demands in a product with a different thermal profile along with numerous other differences. in other words, not a good comparison. Do you not understand the issue? far more than you do. Apple would seem to have either not given this attention in the design stage (indicating incompetence) or they made a conscious decision to allow battery deterioration to impact the operation of the phone in the first year of operation (with potential warranty issues). both false. |
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:03:08 -0500, rickman
wrote: wrote on 1/4/2018 3:27 PM: On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 14:46:48 -0500, rickman wrote: Savageduck wrote on 1/3/2018 6:43 PM: On Jan 3, 2018, rickman wrote (in article ): Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 6:15 PM: Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! No, I'm just calling it like I see it. You jumped into a reasonable conversation making five (not four, my mistake) posts complaining about troll behavior without indicating what was "trollish". Now you want to argue about your trollish behavior and call me names. You are currently the problem, not a cure. Why don't you stop being a troll and we can let the conversation continue? The source of the troll is the OP not JR, and guess who the OP is in this thread. None other than the nymshifting troll from Santa Clara County. He provides nothing constructive, just his never ending anti-Apple posts. I for one have decided to not respond to him, particularly given the toxicity, and of his posts to the Apple NGs. Recently I have responded to one of his posts to r.p.d. which appeared to be benign, and where he had used yet another nymshift. I did not believe that particular post was a troll, but one which sought an answer to a legitimate question. I don't know about toxicity, but the best way to handle trolls is to ignore them. I will be ignoring Roger. First, there has never been a reasonable conversation with the person to whom Roger was responding He really is an inveterate troll with nothing to add to this newsgroup. I have kill filed every nym that he uses that's identifiable and will continue. We each have a decision to make regarding trolls. In this case JR has decided to point out the troll. That is effective in warning other posters. JR has gone *far* beyond pointing out a troll. He has gone so far beyond that he has become the troll. To point out that you think someone is a troll only takes a single post of a few lines. His less annoying posts were the uneducating, "So few facts, so much time. Life's hard for an old troll!" and "Get some new material, old foolish troll." When I point out his excessive complaining he only comes back with much more annoying posts. These are not intended to be educational to anyone. These are the rantings of someone who feels he is on a mission, a very misguided mission. Just as bad are the many posts attempting to justify his behavior. You will be missing some interesting and edifying posts if you ignore Roger. It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. But you have to consider the noise level they bring as well. In this thread all but one post was noise. That's an unacceptable level. By your definition you have become a troll. IOW why don't take your own advice and not respond as you have several times. JR has less posts about this than you now. |
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On 2018-01-04, rickman wrote:
nospam wrote on 1/3/2018 8:38 AM: In article , harry newton wrote: but remember this is an Apple-only problem nope. it's a battery chemistry issue which affects android and any other device that uses a battery. there is *no* avoiding it. *every* battery ages. Yes, but it doesn't have to impact the operation of the product in the first year. Where's the evidence that all (or even the majority) of iPhones are impacted in the first year? Answer: it doesn't exist because it's bull**** hyperbole. A well designed product would be sized to continue to operate as the battery ages. Apple devices *do* continue to operate as the battery ages. I've got an eight year old iPad 1st generation sitting right here beside me that's working just fine on the original battery. And the feature in question actually extends the *runtime* of devices with dying batteries rather than putting so much load on them they fail outright and shut down the device. Personally, eeking out every little bit of runtime possible happens to be precisely what I *expect* from the OS that runs on my devices. Is that something that sets Apple users apart from the rest of the herd? I've had laptop batteries that worked nearly as well as new for two or three years. Just two or three? I'm posting this on a six year old MacBook Pro with the original battery (486 cycles and counting and 88% healthy) without any issues. I have an iPhone 3GS that still works on the original battery. I have a 2010 iPhone 4 in the car as a dedicated dashcam that still runs great too. Do you not understand the issue? Do you? Apple would seem to have either not given this attention in the design stage (indicating incompetence) Nonsense. Apple's customers have good experiences, which is why Apple tops customer satisfaction and rakes in the profits. Real-world use trumps some blogger with a slant any day. or they made a conscious decision to allow battery deterioration to impact the operation of the phone in the first year of operation (with potential warranty issues). Anecdotes and hyperbole don't equate to pandemics. This entire "issue" is a big, overblown bucket of bull**** from people who don't understand the engineering involved. And a few months from now it'll be forgotten and replaced with the next new "scandal". -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:09:25 -0500, rickman
wrote: nospam wrote on 1/4/2018 5:05 PM: In article , rickman wrote: It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. actually, it's extremely unusual. trolls post for a reaction, not for content. And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. I guess that shows he isn't trolling. No, it shows that you aren't knowledgeable enough to see his idiocy. |
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On 2018-01-04, nospam wrote:
In article , Jolly Roger wrote: It is not unusual for trolls to make worthwhile posts. actually, it's extremely unusual. trolls post for a reaction, not for content. And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. No, they were filled with lies, like: "Apple basically admitted today they permanently chopped CPU speeds in half" The CPU speed isn't only cut in half, but on a curve, and it's not permanent but only when the device is doing something that specifically requires more current than the battery can supply, and only on devices with batteries that are on the way out. yep. put simply, the peaks are clipped. Exactly, and the benefit is a device with longer runtime towards the end of its battery life. I'll take it. for everyday tasks that don't push it hard, such as reading email or web surfing, there is no slowdown. Yup. But details like that don't fit the troll narrative. And: "they were trying to secretly mask defective batteries" No evidence of that, and the feature in question was specifically mentioned in the iOS release notes - hardly a secret. they were actually trying to *extend* the life of batteries. Yes. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR |
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On Jan 4, 2018, rickman wrote
(in article ): Savageduck wrote on 1/3/2018 6:26 PM: On Jan 3, 2018, Jolly Roger wrote (in article ): On 2018-01-03, wrote: Jolly Roger wrote on 1/3/2018 5:05 PM: On 2018-01-03, harry wrote: He who is Jolly Roger said on 3 Jan 2018 06:25:53 GMT: Get some new material, old foolish troll. Think about Troll, troll, troll your boat... I think we can see who the troll is. Anyone who o feels the need to post four times complaining about someone being a troll *is* a troll. "Gosh, I KNOW, right? And anyone who calls out a racist for being a racist *is* racist, y'all!" Bull**** reasoning. The asshole currently known as "Harry Newton" has been trolling the Apple news groups and belittling complete strangers in them literally for hours a day for years now. He constantly changes his name to avoid kill filters and pollutes the otherwise peaceful Apple news groups with lame trolls filled with lies and misguided opinions. Here's an incomplete list (and counting) of his names: Paul B. Andersen, Adair Bordon, Liam O'Connor, Juan Camilo Blanco, Alphonse Arnaud, Danny D., Vinny Perado, Whitney Ryan, Tony Cito, Adam H. Kerman, Werner Obermeier, Steven Bornfeld, Winston_Smith, Mitch Kaufmann, Paul M. Cook, E. Robinson, Alice J., P. Ng, Tam Nguyen, VPN user, Joe Clock, Marob Katon, Chris Rangoon, AArdvarks, Conradt, Gustl Hoffmann, Henry Jones, Tatsuki Takahashi, AL, Horace Algier, Karl Schultz, Arthur Conan Doyle, Algeria Horan, Horace Algier, Raymond Spruance III, Martin Chuzzlewit II, John Harmon, Yanis Bernard, Stijn De Jong, Abe Swanson, Misha Vasiliev, Tomos Davies, Chaya Eve, Lionel Muller, Roy Tremblay, Frank S, Chaya Eve, Blake Snyder, harry newton, Harold Newton Multiple regulars in these news groups call him out on his lame-ass trolls. But little, old *you* have decided to step in and support the troll. Good work, there, junior! Also, the cross posts to unrelated groups, and groups where he anticipates some sort of support, and/or validation, are a pretty good clue as to the trollish nature of posts from the Santa Clara nymshifter. This isn't my first rodeo. I've seen a number of ham groups destroyed by this sort of behavior. One person is accused of being a troll, but they aren't really a problem. They make their posts and people either read them or ignore them. The problem arises when vigilantes try to "deal" with the problem by turning the topic from the original to being about the accused troll. Instead of solving anything, they make the problem 10 times worse. That is what's going on here. I was reading the thread and considering the issues in the discussion until someone threw a turd in the punch bowl. The presence of the "enforcers" is more disruptive than the original thread. It should be very easy to killfile the offender and/or the entire thread. Oh, but then someone on the Internet would be wrong without knowing it! https://xkcd.com/386/ I've killfiled JR, we'll see if the problem improves. The problem will continue, because the actual news group spoiling, anti-Apple agenda holding troll, is the nymshifting OP. He taunts with his provocative bait knowing that he will precipitate the thread into a flamewar. Many of the usual participants, such as JR, Lewis, nospam, and others seem to be unable to resist to temptation to engage with him. I for one will not entertain playing into the trollish flamewar trap he sets in the Apple NGs and cross pollinates to other groups which have no interest in things Apple. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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He who is rickman said on Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:17:11 -0500:
this is an Apple-only problem nope. it's a battery chemistry issue which affects android and any other device that uses a battery. there is *no* avoiding it. *every* battery ages. Yes, but it doesn't have to impact the operation of the product in the first year. This is the key point, rickman, where you and almost all the logical people who bought iPhones (and even logical people who didn't buy them) would have presumed that the CPU speed of a phone would be the same on day 1 when the reviews come out as it would be on day 366 after a year of ownership. Nobody (but Apple & the Apple Apologists) has even tried to defend the secret, permanent, and drastic halving of the CPU speeds as being "beneficial" for "prolonging the life" of the phone. I can understand why Apple says that (they have a dozen lawsuits to not give any ammunition to), but it's harder to understand the logic of the defense that we should have known all along that Apple would halve the speeds based on what Apple said it put in the iOS 10.2.1 release (and 11.2 for the iPhone 7). "iOS 10.2.1 includes bug fixes and improves the security of your iPhone or iPad. It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone." https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1893?locale=en_US Affected phones we iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, and iPhone SE. https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/ A well designed product would be sized to continue to operate as the battery ages. I've had laptop batteries that worked nearly as well as new for two or three years. Do you not understand the issue? Bear in mind that it is a fact that I am the one who first broke the news to the Apple newsgroups of the problem, and who first broke the news of Apple's apology about the problem - so I am vehemently hated by the Apple Apologists (nospam, Jolly Roger, Savageduck, Snit, BKonRamp, etc.). You have to understand that on the affected iOS newsgroups, there is a set of bona-fide lifer Apple Apologists who hate any fact that is truthful but not what they like to hear. So they will *destroy* any thread that contains facts that they don't like, using a variety of techniques, some of which you've seen here, all combined with guile and vitriol and ill logic, where, in the end, they always attempt to destroy truthful facts like any competent cancer would. You have Jolly Roger exclaiming today that an Apple battery is as easy to replace as a "user replaceable" battery for example, which is just patently ridiculous - and yet - he makes that claim with a straight face. Worse, Jolly Roger consistently fabricates content that never occurred, just so that he can appear witty (to himself?) by responding to that completely fabricated content! Why does Jolly Roger habitually fabricate quoted content? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/FJ0ScwZ9sLE/d40Bp9jKDQAJ You have nospam insisting that Apple duly informed its users with that cryptic 10.2.1 release-note blurb, and you have Savageduck trying to skirt facts with semantic outliers such as iOS-based non-Apple cameras, and you have who consistently high-fives other people's posts but has never once (ever!) added technical value to any thread in his entire life! All of these ill-logical people resort to complete and utter fabrications of non-existing functionality, whenever confronted with patently unassailable facts - that they don't like. Why do iOS apologists incessantly fabricate fictional iOS functionality? https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/vcq3ESStmlc/bjhf9Z5vBAAJ That's the kind of people you're currently dealing with. Apple would seem to have either not given this attention in the design stage (indicating incompetence) or they made a conscious decision to allow battery deterioration to impact the operation of the phone in the first year of operation (with potential warranty issues). It seems from all the evidence (quoted elsewhere already), that Apple didn't test the product thoroughly enough (they admitted as much that they were blindsided by the initial shutdowns) and then, after the second series of reports came in, Apple finally realized what happened. The "fix" is clear - which they already apologized for not communicating (but only because they got caught so they had to apologize). The fact is that they implemented a secret solution that is permanent and drastic (cutting CPU speeds to less than half after only one year of use). The conjecture is "WHY" they did that. I posit, with logical thought, that they realized how BIG of a problem this design flaw is, and they realized they didn't have ANY options to fix it in software that were palatable to the customer. They certainly *could* have implemented a recall, where they provided the customer with a better design - but they took the easy way out - which was to secretly mask the design flaw. This is all well described already in valid factual references I've supplied in each of my posts, so I will let you decide who is a troll on this newsgroup, and who is providing valid referenced facts. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3245048/mobile-wireless/apple-makes-its-intent-on-the-battery-fiasco-clear-and-not-in-the-way-it-wanted.html Title: "Apple makes its intent on the battery fiasco clear. 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He who is rickman said on Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:09:25 -0500:
And yet Harry's posts have been informative for me. I guess that shows he isn't trolling. You have to understand, rickman, that the Apple Apologists *hate* me, with a vengeance, because I speak facts that they don't like. I call out Jolly Roger on his trolls (if you run a search for the combination of Jolly Roger and troll on the iOS newsgroups, he comes up on top, by far, since he calls every fact he doesn't like, a troll). http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone BTW, I always *add* value to a newsgroup, so who do you think *created* those tinyurls in the first place? I did. For example: http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android http://tinyurl.com/sci-electgronics-repair Why did I create them? For the good of all, as I've been on Usenet for decades, being an old octogenarian (where you'll note Jolly Roger always tries to insult me for simply being old). What the Apple Apologists you're dealing with absolutely hate, are facts that they don't like so they attempt to defame and destroy the bearer of those valid verified facts. For example, this is my thread on the iOS newsgroups which *broke* the news to them that Apple was caught secretly throttling CPU speeds. Report says Apple 'Powerd' code secretly slows your iOS device down to trick you into buying a new device https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GdEtzzrc9F0%5B1-25%5D When you skim that thread, you'll instantly see how the Apple Apologists react to truthful facts and how the others on the iOS newsgroup who are not Apple Apologists, react. They are two completely different mentalities (which you're noticing). a. Adults who can converse using logic and facts, and, b. Apple Apologists (e.g., nospam, Savageduck, Jolly Roger, BKonRamp, etc.) who can, but don't. |
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He who is harry newton said on Fri, 5 Jan 2018 00:08:08 +0000 (UTC):
BTW, I always *add* value to a newsgroup, so who do you think *created* those tinyurls in the first place? I did. For example: http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android http://tinyurl.com/sci-electgronics-repair Why did I create them? For the good of all, as I've been on Usenet for decades, being an old octogenarian (where you'll note Jolly Roger always tries to insult me for simply being old). OOoooops. Typo. Here are the URLs I created for the good of all, so that *facts* can be researched easily and so that the immense effort most of us put into adding value to Usenet can be harvested to the benefit of others. http://tinyurl.com/sci-electronics-repair http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad http://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone http://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-system http://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-apps http://tinyurl.com/alt-os-linux etc. Note: When Google took over dejanews, and when TinyUrl came out years ago, I added the Windows newsgroups - but Google consistently breaks them over the years, so I eventually gave up adding Windows newsgroups for tinyurl convenience. |
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He who is Jolly Roger said on 4 Jan 2018 22:23:50 GMT:
The CPU speed isn't only cut in half, but on a curve, and it's not permanent This is a good topic for adult logical discussion... Title: How to take advantage of Apple's $29 iPhone battery replacement program right now URL: http://bgr.com/2018/01/01/iphone-battery-replacement-29-how-to-iphone-slowdown-scandal/ Quote: "There is no way to toggle Apple's hidden throttling on or off within the company's iOS software. Instead, the only way to disable an iPhone slowdown is to install a new battery in your phone." This was already referenced in the iOS newsgroups he Title: For anyone who still thinks the iPhone throttling isn't *permanent* - read this article URL: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/wq4r6ALKewE |
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