First a bit on me.

Neither of my parents spoke English as a first language (Gaelic & German), nor were they born in the US. Growing up Mid-West, East, South and Mid-Atlantic, and working in various professions and 'jobs' from Janitor to Machinist, and in the US and Middle East, I have seen a bit of the world and experienced a few sorts of people and cultures. Dinner guests in my childhood through teen years included the likes of Dorothy Parker, Helen & Scott Nearing, Hannah Arendt, Felix Morrow, Oscar and Edith Tarcov, Richmond Lattimore, J. Glenn Gray, Peter Drucker and more. Those are the highlights, but I could drop a bunch more names if needed. I get my words from my father, and my humor from my mother. My politics are quite far left of center, but no where near as far as my parents - who were both gun-owning believers in personal responsibility, and felt the world owed them nothing, quite the opposite.. I had an aunt in the Irish Post Office, my father was seconded to the OSS during WWII spending most of the war on both sides of the line in Europe. I am married, two step-kids (but I got them very young), four grand-kids, two cats, two dogs. I also consider myself an elitist of the first water - I dislike spending time and effort around ignorance - which I believe can be fixed and is a deliberate choice, never an accident past the age of consent. I also deeply believe the Islamic mandate: Never refuse food, water or shelter together with the Social Contract (best summed up by Karl Marx), although I subscribe to no religion in the belief that religion per-se is largely responsible for much, very nearly all, that is evil in this world - along with any -ism that requires absolute adherence. I am a few months from (technically) retirement age, although I very much enjoy what I am doing and intend to stay at it as long as that enjoyment remains. Due to my wife's and my efforts over the last many years, retirement will be comfortable.

It takes a lot to get me to light off on someone. But, anything worth doing is worth doing well - and I try. Some seem to learn and get over it. Some seem to escalate the exchanges beyond banter. I feel like the opposite of the Taxi Driver in the Rutabaga Stories - I can be a much nicer person 'at home' if I vent my spleen in venues such as this one. But, for the record, it ain't nohow personal - nor is any one in the focus worth any actual time, effort or real emotion. I reserve that for friends, family and some very few actual enemies, all now dead (not from my efforts, sadly). Usenet requires the hide of a rhinoceros, a dry sense of humor, and considerable tolerance if it is to be enjoyed. Considerable, not complete.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

On 17/11/2017 4:31 AM, wrote:

First a bit on me.

Neither of my parents spoke English as a first language (Gaelic & German), nor were they born in the US. Growing up Mid-West, East, South and Mid-Atlantic, and working in various professions and 'jobs' from Janitor to Machinist, and in the US and Middle East, I have seen a bit of the world and experienced a few sorts of people and cultures. Dinner guests in my childhood through teen years included the likes of Dorothy Parker, Helen & Scott Nearing, Hannah Arendt, Felix Morrow, Oscar and Edith Tarcov, Richmond Lattimore, J. Glenn Gray, Peter Drucker and more. Those are the highlights, but I could drop a bunch more names if needed. I get my words from my father, and my humor from my mother. My politics are quite far left of center, but no where near as far as my parents - who were both gun-owning believers in personal responsibility, and felt the world owed them nothing, quite the opposite. I had an aunt in the Irish Post Office, my father was seconded to the OSS during WWII spending most of the war on both sides of the line in Europe. I am married, two step-kids (but I got them very young), four grand-kids, two cats, two dogs. I also consider myself an elitist of the first water - I dislike spending time and effort around ignorance - which I believe can be fixed and is a deliberate choice, never an accident past the age of consent. I also deeply believe the Islamic mandate: Never refuse food, water or shelter together with the Social Contract (best summed up by Karl Marx), although I subscribe to no religion in the belief that religion per-se is largely responsible for much, very nearly all, that is evil in this world - along with any -ism that requires absolute adherence. I am a few months from (technically) retirement age, although I very much enjoy what I am doing and intend to stay at it as long as that enjoyment remains. Due to my wife's and my efforts over the last many years, retirement will be comfortable.

It takes a lot to get me to light off on someone. But, anything worth doing is worth doing well - and I try. Some seem to learn and get over it. Some seem to escalate the exchanges beyond banter. I feel like the opposite of the Taxi Driver in the Rutabaga Stories - I can be a much nicer person 'at home' if I vent my spleen in venues such as this one. But, for the record, it ain't nohow personal - nor is any one in the focus worth any actual time, effort or real emotion. I reserve that for friends, family and some very few actual enemies, all now dead (not from my efforts, sadly). Usenet requires the hide of a rhinoceros, a dry sense of humor, and considerable tolerance if it is to be enjoyed. Considerable, not complete.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA



So--- the complete legend in your own mind then ??

Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 17/11/2017 4:31 AM, wrote:
First a bit on me.

Neither of my parents spoke English as a first language (Gaelic &
German), nor were they born in the US. Growing up Mid-West, East,
South and Mid-Atlantic, and working in various professions and 'jobs'
from Janitor to Machinist, and in the US and Middle East, I have seen
a bit of the world and experienced a few sorts of people and cultures.
Dinner guests in my childhood through teen years included the likes of
Dorothy Parker, Helen & Scott Nearing, Hannah Arendt, Felix Morrow,
Oscar and Edith Tarcov, Richmond Lattimore, J. Glenn Gray, Peter
Drucker and more. Those are the highlights, but I could drop a bunch
more names if needed. I get my words from my father, and my humor from
my mother. My politics are quite far left of center, but no where near
as far as my parents - who were both gun-owning believers in personal
responsibility, and felt the world owed them nothing, quite the
opposite. I had an aunt in the Irish Post Office, my father was
seconded to the OSS during WWII spending most of the war on both sides
of the line in Europe. I am married, two step-kids (but I got them
very young), four grand-kids, two cats, two dogs. I also consider
myself an elitist of the first water - I dislike spending time and
effort around ignorance - which I believe can be fixed and is a
deliberate choice, never an accident past the age of consent. I also
deeply believe the Islamic mandate: Never refuse food, water or
shelter together with the Social Contract (best summed up by Karl
Marx), although I subscribe to no religion in the belief that religion
per-se is largely responsible for much, very nearly all, that is evil
in this world - along with any -ism that requires absolute adherence.
I am a few months from (technically) retirement age, although I very
much enjoy what I am doing and intend to stay at it as long as that
enjoyment remains. Due to my wife's and my efforts over the last many
years, retirement will be comfortable.

It takes a lot to get me to light off on someone. But, anything worth
doing is worth doing well - and I try. Some seem to learn and get over
it. Some seem to escalate the exchanges beyond banter. I feel like the
opposite of the Taxi Driver in the Rutabaga Stories - I can be a much
nicer person 'at home' if I vent my spleen in venues such as this one.
But, for the record, it ain't nohow personal - nor is any one in the
focus worth any actual time, effort or real emotion. I reserve that
for friends, family and some very few actual enemies, all now dead
(not from my efforts, sadly). Usenet requires the hide of a
rhinoceros, a dry sense of humor, and considerable tolerance if it is
to be enjoyed. Considerable, not complete.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


So--- the complete legend in your own mind then ??
Me too!!!!!

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:53:06 -0600, Ken wrote:

shelter together with the Social Contract (best summed up by Karl
Marx), although I subscribe to no religion in the belief that religion
per-se is largely responsible for much, very nearly all, that is evil
in this world - along with any -ism that requires absolute adherence.
I am a few months from (technically) retirement age, although I very
much enjoy what I am doing and intend to stay at it as long as that
enjoyment remains. Due to my wife's and my efforts over the last many
years, retirement will be comfortable.

It takes a lot to get me to light off on someone. But, anything worth
doing is worth doing well - and I try. Some seem to learn and get over
it. Some seem to escalate the exchanges beyond banter. I feel like the
opposite of the Taxi Driver in the Rutabaga Stories - I can be a much
nicer person 'at home' if I vent my spleen in venues such as this one.
But, for the record, it ain't nohow personal - nor is any one in the
focus worth any actual time, effort or real emotion. I reserve that
for friends, family and some very few actual enemies, all now dead
(not from my efforts, sadly). Usenet requires the hide of a
rhinoceros, a dry sense of humor, and considerable tolerance if it is
to be enjoyed. Considerable, not complete.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


So--- the complete legend in your own mind then ??
Me too!!!!!

Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting on a
barstool.

wrote on 11/22/2017 8:14 PM:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:53:06 -0600, Ken wrote:

shelter together with the Social Contract (best summed up by Karl
Marx), although I subscribe to no religion in the belief that religion
per-se is largely responsible for much, very nearly all, that is evil
in this world - along with any -ism that requires absolute adherence.
I am a few months from (technically) retirement age, although I very
much enjoy what I am doing and intend to stay at it as long as that
enjoyment remains. Due to my wife's and my efforts over the last many
years, retirement will be comfortable.

It takes a lot to get me to light off on someone. But, anything worth
doing is worth doing well - and I try. Some seem to learn and get over
it. Some seem to escalate the exchanges beyond banter. I feel like the
opposite of the Taxi Driver in the Rutabaga Stories - I can be a much
nicer person 'at home' if I vent my spleen in venues such as this one.
But, for the record, it ain't nohow personal - nor is any one in the
focus worth any actual time, effort or real emotion. I reserve that
for friends, family and some very few actual enemies, all now dead
(not from my efforts, sadly). Usenet requires the hide of a
rhinoceros, a dry sense of humor, and considerable tolerance if it is
to be enjoyed. Considerable, not complete.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


So--- the complete legend in your own mind then ??
Me too!!!!!

Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting on a
barstool.

Obviously you know this because of all the time you have spent sitting on a
barstool?

--

Rick C

Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms,
on the centerline of totality since 1998

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 19:14:20 -0600, oldschool wrote:

Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting on a
barstool.

How's your SX-99 working?

On 11/22/2017 7:14 PM, wrote:
Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting on a
barstool.

That works both ways buddy...
When you're intoxicated, anything anybody else says sounds
like blather.
Of course, when you're ignorant, everything sounds like blather.


--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 3:16:50 AM UTC-5, Foxs Mercantile wrote:
On 11/22/2017 7:14 PM, wrote:
Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting on a
barstool.




That works both ways buddy...
When you're intoxicated, anything anybody else says sounds
like blather.


LOL!!!

Once upon a time on usenet Foxs Mercantile wrote:
On 11/22/2017 7:14 PM, wrote:
Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting
on a barstool.

That works both ways buddy...
When you're intoxicated, anything anybody else says sounds
like blather.
Of course, when you're ignorant, everything sounds like blather.

This is one of the best posts I've read today. (The first in this thread
being another good one.)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

On 12/21/17 6:46 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Foxs Mercantile wrote:
On 11/22/2017 7:14 PM, wrote:
Sounds to me like Peter needs to sign himself into an alcohol detox
treatment hospital.

This is the kind of blabber one normally hears from someone sitting
on a barstool.

That works both ways buddy...
When you're intoxicated, anything anybody else says sounds
like blather.
Of course, when you're ignorant, everything sounds like blather.

This is one of the best posts I've read today. (The first in this thread
being another good one.)


Heh, thankies


--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com

If you need lessons in vituperation see Phil. He is the head vituperator here and captain of the vituperating team.

On Sunday, December 24, 2017 at 7:13:14 PM UTC-5, wrote:
If you need lessons in vituperation see Phil. He is the head vituperator here and captain of the vituperating team.

He is merely strident and vulgar. No class.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 04:22:03 -0800, wrote:

On Sunday, December 24, 2017 at 7:13:14 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
If you need lessons in vituperation see Phil. He is the head
vituperator here and captain of the vituperating team.

He is merely strident and vulgar. No class.

Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

It's only to be expected. Australians are about 100 years behind everyone
else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ymZaMJ_Pno





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