On 04/01/2017 07:05 PM, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 02/04/17 02:33, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/01/2017 12:24 PM, MJC wrote:
In article ,
says...

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.


Because the body of the Sun is a good conductor, the magnetic field gets
frozen in--it can change only by diffusion, which is very slow on long
length scales. (It slows down quadratically with distance.)

The Sun also doesn't rotate like a rigid body--the equator rotates
faster than the poles, which kinks up the field. That does work on the
magnetic field, just the way an electric generator works. The resulting
local increases in B eventually causes the magnetic force to overcome
gravity in "reconnection events" where the kinks unkink themselves by
tossing huge chunks of solar material into space.

It's sort of a magnetic version of a watch spring buckling sideways when
you tighten it past a certain point with the cover off.

Did I ever tell you that you're a wonderful explainer?

I wish I had a reason to learn photonics so I could justify spending
some neurons to read your book..

Thanks.

Well, only half of it is about optics.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
electrical system, or the chassis ground in an electronic device.

Due to changes in the earth's structure, caused by both natural causes,
such as shifting of the earth's plates, and man made deviations of the
earth caused by excessive pumping of oil, over use of electronic
devices, and the use of nuclear reactors. The earth has changed in
structure, and is affecting all of us.

Because of this, a Ground is no longer "TRUE GROUND". Anything and
everything that is grounded is now roughly at positive 8.243 volts.
Thus, everything which is grounded is really not grounded, and living
creatures are now all exposed to this roughly +8 volt potential. This
may not seem like much, but it accumulates over time, affecting the
moods and bodily functions of all living things. Over time it causes
illness, mental disturbances, and possibly even cancer and heart
disease.

Scientists have been investigating this for years, and have noticed a
slight upward drift of positive voltage increasing every year. The U.S.
government is finally taking action, and other world governments are now
considering taking action to bring "ground" back to TRUE ground
potential.

To achive true ground, heavy copper rods must be driven deeply into the
earth's core, but must be insulated from the top 600 feet of soil and
rock. This ground potential must then be "piped" to homes and businesses
all around the country and abroad. This is a very costly procedure, and
in order to bring all of our structures as well as out electronics back
to "true ground potential", everyone must connect all electrical systems
to these "master grounds", which will be placed at approximately 100
locations around the U.S. (presently two in each State). These grounds
will then be wired into our homes and businesses through an extensive
grid of heavy gauge wires. Every community will be responsible to
distribute this ground to individual structures.

Because of the high costs involved, every American will be billed for
this service, which will soon be mandatory according to the "National
Electric Code". This bill must be paid monthly, just like any other
utility bill, and will be based on usage. Thus, the more electrical and
electronic devices you have, the more you will pay. Your usage will be
determined by using a "ground meter", not unlike your home's electrical
meter.

It's been planned that by the year 2020, every structure in the U.S.
will be connected, and will bring us back to true ground potential.
However, other countries must also establish a similar system, or else
there may be extensive corrosive reaction of lands not connected, which
will occur where the salt water of oceans is at a different ground
potential. With an unbalanced ground, the salt water in the oceans may
become like giant batteries and thus will eat away at shoreline land and
could even cause massive boils, as the ocean waters begin to boil from
the heat caused at the center of the oceans, which will also cause
massive kills of fish and other ocean life.

Therefore, all continents on earth must cooperate and establish systems
which will bring the entire planet's electrical systems back to true
ground potential. This must be enacted immediately, or in less than one
half of a century all living creatures on earth will become so
electrically charged that we will all face death due to electrical
imbalances in our bodies whenever we have any direct contact with the
earth.

Act now, encourage your local and national governments to take immediate
action to design and built the systems needed to solve this most
critical problem. If we do nothing, it will only be a few decades before
human and animal lives are severely affected, and our present
electronics and electrical systems will all fail.


Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

On 04/01/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:

Because of this, a Ground is no longer "TRUE GROUND". Anything and
everything that is grounded is now roughly at positive 8.243 volts.
Thus, everything which is grounded is really not grounded, and living
creatures are now all exposed to this roughly +8 volt potential. This
may not seem like much, but it accumulates over time, affecting the
moods and bodily functions of all living things. Over time it causes
illness, mental disturbances, and possibly even cancer and heart
disease.

The only logical solution is to cover the entire country in
nickel-plated linoleum tile to protect us. We'll call it a "floor."

It won't cost taxpayers a dime - we'll send Gaia a bill for it.

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed in a
conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

On 4/1/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
My apologies, I forgot today's date.

In article , says...

On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Referenced to April 1.

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed in a
conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit negative.
Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

In article ,
says...

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.



Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

If earth has a net charge, it is probably not many volts. Aren't
cosmic rays almost all positive?

Most of the earth's surface is conductive, but dry sand might be a
good enough insulator to have local surface potentials. Sounds like a
good science project. Maybe make a drone that could scan a region and
map gradients.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

On 04/01/2017 12:24 PM, MJC wrote:
In article ,
says...

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.


Because the body of the Sun is a good conductor, the magnetic field gets
frozen in--it can change only by diffusion, which is very slow on long
length scales. (It slows down quadratically with distance.)

The Sun also doesn't rotate like a rigid body--the equator rotates
faster than the poles, which kinks up the field. That does work on the
magnetic field, just the way an electric generator works. The resulting
local increases in B eventually causes the magnetic force to overcome
gravity in "reconnection events" where the kinks unkink themselves by
tossing huge chunks of solar material into space.

It's sort of a magnetic version of a watch spring buckling sideways when
you tighten it past a certain point with the cover off.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

On 04/01/2017 12:30 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.



Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

The self-capacitance of the Sun isn't very large--its radius is about
700,000 km. The Gaussian unit of capacitance is the centimetre (which
is close to a picofarad), and the self-capacitance of a sphere equals
its radius in centimetres.

Thus the capacitance of the Sun is about 7E10 cm, or 0.08 F.

Wiki says that the number of particles ejected by the Sun is about
1.3E36 per second, which is about 2E17 coulombs/s, counting both
positive and negative, and ignoring alpha particles having a charge of +2.

The maximum energy of the ejected particles is around 10 keV, so if the
Sun's voltage with respect to the rest of the universe reached +- 10 kV,
one sign of free particle would be unable to escape.

With 10**17 amps worth of the other polarity continuing to stream out,
and only 80 mF of capacitance, this would be corrected in about 10**-18
seconds.


If earth has a net charge, it is probably not many volts. Aren't
cosmic rays almost all positive?

I don't know about the ones outside the atmosphere. The positive ones
are much more massive than electrons, and so have more momentum per unit
energy, which helps them penetrate the atmosphere.


Most of the earth's surface is conductive, but dry sand might be a
good enough insulator to have local surface potentials. Sounds like a
good science project. Maybe make a drone that could scan a region and
map gradients.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

On 04/01/2017 12:52 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/01/2017 12:30 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.



Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

The self-capacitance of the Sun isn't very large--its radius is about
700,000 km. The Gaussian unit of capacitance is the centimetre (which
is close to a picofarad), and the self-capacitance of a sphere equals
its radius in centimetres.

Thus the capacitance of the Sun is about 7E10 cm, or 0.08 F.

Wiki says that the number of particles ejected by the Sun is about
1.3E36 per second, which is about 2E17 coulombs/s, counting both
positive and negative, and ignoring alpha particles having a charge of +2.

The maximum energy of the ejected particles is around 10 keV, so if the
Sun's voltage with respect to the rest of the universe reached +- 10 kV,
one sign of free particle would be unable to escape.

With 10**17 amps worth of the other polarity continuing to stream out,
and only 80 mF of capacitance, this would be corrected in about 10**-18
seconds.

Whoops, 10**-14 seconds. Much gentler.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

On 04/01/2017 11:23 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
My apologies, I forgot today's date.

OWNED!!!!11111

On 01.04.17 16:32, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
cut

Happy first of April.

On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 09:32:23 -0500, wrote:

Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
electrical system, or the chassis ground in an electronic device.

Due to changes in the earth's structure, caused by both natural causes,
such as shifting of the earth's plates, and man made deviations of the
earth caused by excessive pumping of oil, over use of electronic
devices, and the use of nuclear reactors. The earth has changed in
structure, and is affecting all of us.

Because of this, a Ground is no longer "TRUE GROUND". Anything and
everything that is grounded is now roughly at positive 8.243 volts.
Thus, everything which is grounded is really not grounded, and living
creatures are now all exposed to this roughly +8 volt potential. This
may not seem like much, but it accumulates over time, affecting the
moods and bodily functions of all living things. Over time it causes
illness, mental disturbances, and possibly even cancer and heart
disease.

Scientists have been investigating this for years, and have noticed a
slight upward drift of positive voltage increasing every year. The U.S.
government is finally taking action, and other world governments are now
considering taking action to bring "ground" back to TRUE ground
potential.

To achive true ground, heavy copper rods must be driven deeply into the
earth's core, but must be insulated from the top 600 feet of soil and
rock. This ground potential must then be "piped" to homes and businesses
all around the country and abroad. This is a very costly procedure, and
in order to bring all of our structures as well as out electronics back
to "true ground potential", everyone must connect all electrical systems
to these "master grounds", which will be placed at approximately 100
locations around the U.S. (presently two in each State). These grounds
will then be wired into our homes and businesses through an extensive
grid of heavy gauge wires. Every community will be responsible to
distribute this ground to individual structures.

Because of the high costs involved, every American will be billed for
this service, which will soon be mandatory according to the "National
Electric Code". This bill must be paid monthly, just like any other
utility bill, and will be based on usage. Thus, the more electrical and
electronic devices you have, the more you will pay. Your usage will be
determined by using a "ground meter", not unlike your home's electrical
meter.

It's been planned that by the year 2020, every structure in the U.S.
will be connected, and will bring us back to true ground potential.
However, other countries must also establish a similar system, or else
there may be extensive corrosive reaction of lands not connected, which
will occur where the salt water of oceans is at a different ground
potential. With an unbalanced ground, the salt water in the oceans may
become like giant batteries and thus will eat away at shoreline land and
could even cause massive boils, as the ocean waters begin to boil from
the heat caused at the center of the oceans, which will also cause
massive kills of fish and other ocean life.

Therefore, all continents on earth must cooperate and establish systems
which will bring the entire planet's electrical systems back to true
ground potential. This must be enacted immediately, or in less than one
half of a century all living creatures on earth will become so
electrically charged that we will all face death due to electrical
imbalances in our bodies whenever we have any direct contact with the
earth.

Act now, encourage your local and national governments to take immediate
action to design and built the systems needed to solve this most
critical problem. If we do nothing, it will only be a few decades before
human and animal lives are severely affected, and our present
electronics and electrical systems will all fail.


Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

OMG! That's worse than global warming!

On 4/1/2017 1:08 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 04/01/2017 11:23 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
My apologies, I forgot today's date.

OWNED!!!!11111
Yep

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:51:42 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:

On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John

April 1 is my favorite holiday. It's all about having fun. You dont have
to dress up or impress anyone, you dont have to buy gifts, decorate or
cook fancy meals, you doint have to go to church, or wave a flag, and
it's the only day of the year when you can say stupid **** and act
really goofy and get away with it.....

Of course this article about Electrical Grounds, 'could' be true..... I
wont make any comments about it till April 2.

Happy April Fools Day!


By the way, wanna get your spouse or a friend?
Remove the aerator from a faucet, put some saran wrap over the faucet,
then put the aerator back on. Then wrap one prong on every plug in the
house with scotch tape, and dont forget my favorite. Put a screw in
adaptor from light socket to outlet in place of the refrigerator light
bulb. Then plug a radio into it and turn the volume up loud. !!! Then
tell your spouse, friend, or parents to get you a cold beer or soda!!!

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

That would be useful for people who have solar panels....

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 09:30:05 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

If earth has a net charge, it is probably not many volts. Aren't
cosmic rays almost all positive?

Most of the earth's surface is conductive, but dry sand might be a
good enough insulator to have local surface potentials. Sounds like a
good science project. Maybe make a drone that could scan a region and
map gradients.



Considering this, is the sun AC or DC? Is it LED, Florescent or
Incandescent? Does it contain batterier or capacitors to keep it lit?
Does anyone operate a sun control panel to keep the brightness on the
same level, and color? And what is the voltage, amperage and wattage of
the sun?

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.repair.]
wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
electrical system, or the chassis ground in an electronic device.

2017-04-01

On 2017/04/01 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:51:42 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:

On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John

April 1 is my favorite holiday. It's all about having fun. You dont have
to dress up or impress anyone, you dont have to buy gifts, decorate or
cook fancy meals, you doint have to go to church, or wave a flag, and
it's the only day of the year when you can say stupid **** and act
really goofy and get away with it.....

Of course this article about Electrical Grounds, 'could' be true..... I
wont make any comments about it till April 2.

Happy April Fools Day!


By the way, wanna get your spouse or a friend?
Remove the aerator from a faucet, put some saran wrap over the faucet,
then put the aerator back on. Then wrap one prong on every plug in the
house with scotch tape, and dont forget my favorite. Put a screw in
adaptor from light socket to outlet in place of the refrigerator light
bulb. Then plug a radio into it and turn the volume up loud. !!! Then
tell your spouse, friend, or parents to get you a cold beer or soda!!!



Reminds me of the April issues of Radio Electronics back in the day...

Thanks!

John :-#)#

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:48:47 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:51:42 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:

On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John

April 1 is my favorite holiday. It's all about having fun. You dont have
to dress up or impress anyone, you dont have to buy gifts, decorate or
cook fancy meals, you doint have to go to church, or wave a flag, and
it's the only day of the year when you can say stupid **** and act
really goofy and get away with it.....

Of course this article about Electrical Grounds, 'could' be true..... I
wont make any comments about it till April 2.

Happy April Fools Day!


By the way, wanna get your spouse or a friend?
Remove the aerator from a faucet, put some saran wrap over the faucet,
then put the aerator back on. Then wrap one prong on every plug in the
house with scotch tape, and dont forget my favorite. Put a screw in
adaptor from light socket to outlet in place of the refrigerator light
bulb. Then plug a radio into it and turn the volume up loud. !!! Then
tell your spouse, friend, or parents to get you a cold beer or soda!!!


Do you still have a spouse, or any friends?


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lunatic fringe electronics

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:23:41 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:


Reminds me of the April issues of Radio Electronics back in the day...

Thanks!

John :-#)#

What sort of stuff did they have?
I may have to look andf see if they are archived. I know all the popular
electronics can be viewed or downloaded online.

In article ,
says...

Considering this, is the sun AC or DC? Is it LED, Florescent or
Incandescent? Does it contain batterier or capacitors to keep it lit?
Does anyone operate a sun control panel to keep the brightness on the
same level, and color? And what is the voltage, amperage and wattage of
the sun?

I hope we can all agree, all days of the year, that the sun is
incandescent! With a daylight colour temperature...

I expect someone has worked out the wattage. It will be an astronomical
number.

Mike.

On 02/04/17 02:33, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/01/2017 12:24 PM, MJC wrote:
In article ,
says...

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.


Because the body of the Sun is a good conductor, the magnetic field gets
frozen in--it can change only by diffusion, which is very slow on long
length scales. (It slows down quadratically with distance.)

The Sun also doesn't rotate like a rigid body--the equator rotates
faster than the poles, which kinks up the field. That does work on the
magnetic field, just the way an electric generator works. The resulting
local increases in B eventually causes the magnetic force to overcome
gravity in "reconnection events" where the kinks unkink themselves by
tossing huge chunks of solar material into space.

It's sort of a magnetic version of a watch spring buckling sideways when
you tighten it past a certain point with the cover off.

Did I ever tell you that you're a wonderful explainer?

I wish I had a reason to learn photonics so I could justify spending
some neurons to read your book..

Thanks.

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 12:24:19 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:48:47 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:51:42 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:

On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John

April 1 is my favorite holiday. It's all about having fun. You dont have
to dress up or impress anyone, you dont have to buy gifts, decorate or
cook fancy meals, you doint have to go to church, or wave a flag, and
it's the only day of the year when you can say stupid **** and act
really goofy and get away with it.....

Of course this article about Electrical Grounds, 'could' be true..... I
wont make any comments about it till April 2.

Happy April Fools Day!


By the way, wanna get your spouse or a friend?
Remove the aerator from a faucet, put some saran wrap over the faucet,
then put the aerator back on. Then wrap one prong on every plug in the
house with scotch tape, and dont forget my favorite. Put a screw in
adaptor from light socket to outlet in place of the refrigerator light
bulb. Then plug a radio into it and turn the volume up loud. !!! Then
tell your spouse, friend, or parents to get you a cold beer or soda!!!


Do you still have a spouse, or any friends?

I had a friend who was in a grocery store with is wife. While she
was shopping he was wandering around. Thinking that he had to do
something special for April-1, he went over to the desk and bough a
lottery ticket, for his wife, with the previous day's winning numbers.
When he found her, he fished the ticket out of his pocket and told her
to check it when she checked out and continued to wander around. A
few minutes later he heard her scream from across the store. Not sure
if they're still married, though.

On 2017-04-01, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:23:41 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:


Reminds me of the April issues of Radio Electronics back in the day...

Thanks!

John :-#)#

What sort of stuff did they have?

"Write-only memory"

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On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 22:46:34 +0100, MJC wrote:

I hope we can all agree, all days of the year, that the sun is
incandescent! With a daylight colour temperature...

I expect someone has worked out the wattage. It will be an astronomical
number.

Mike.

I have a feeling that if anyone touched the sun, they would be
electrocuted.....

In article ,
says...

Happy April Fools Day!

I hope you guys enjoy this ancient specification writen by someone at my
old employer, a computer manufacturer once upon a time...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pagmxe035p...ERIES.mht?dl=0

While you're there, this is a circuit I designed back in the early 1960s
for a rather strange purpose. I'd be interested to know if anyone has
seen it before.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wf5iiujs9h...rator.jpg?dl=0

Mike.

MJC wrote:

I hope you guys enjoy this ancient specification writen by someone at my
old employer, a computer manufacturer once upon a time...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pagmxe035p...ERIES.mht?dl=0

Looks like a load of old balls to me.

On 4/1/2017 9:42 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2017-04-01, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:23:41 -0700, John Robertson
wrote:


Reminds me of the April issues of Radio Electronics back in the day...

Thanks!

John :-#)#

What sort of stuff did they have?

"Write-only memory"

Screen print function, monitor mounted on top of a copy machine.
Mikek

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On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 09:05:44 +1000, Clifford Heath
wrote:

On 02/04/17 02:33, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/01/2017 12:24 PM, MJC wrote:
In article ,
says...

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.


Because the body of the Sun is a good conductor, the magnetic field gets
frozen in--it can change only by diffusion, which is very slow on long
length scales. (It slows down quadratically with distance.)

The Sun also doesn't rotate like a rigid body--the equator rotates
faster than the poles, which kinks up the field. That does work on the
magnetic field, just the way an electric generator works. The resulting
local increases in B eventually causes the magnetic force to overcome
gravity in "reconnection events" where the kinks unkink themselves by
tossing huge chunks of solar material into space.

It's sort of a magnetic version of a watch spring buckling sideways when
you tighten it past a certain point with the cover off.

Did I ever tell you that you're a wonderful explainer?

I wish I had a reason to learn photonics so I could justify spending
some neurons to read your book..

I MEGO on a lot of the optics in Phil's book (entendues and such) but
the photon budget stuff is comprehensible, and there's some really
good stuff about electronic design.

It's roughly half electronics, which makes sense since the world is
half electronics.


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lunatic fringe electronics

In article ,
says...

MJC wrote:

I hope you guys enjoy this ancient specification writen by someone at my
old employer, a computer manufacturer once upon a time...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pagmxe035p...ERIES.mht?dl=0

Looks like a load of old balls to me.

Yes, if you know about the theorem about combing a hairy ball the whole
thing seems less convincing!

Mike.

Yes, if you know about the theorem about combing a hairy ball the whole
thing seems less convincing!

...................


can global static electricity rises effect ground voltage ?

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 6:19:27 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Yes, if you know about the theorem about combing a hairy ball the whole
thing seems less convincing!

..................


can global static electricity rises effect ground voltage ?

Probably on a global scale. Given all the various magnetic fields in and around the earth, given the differences in resistance from location to location (on land) and more, I am sure there are all sorts of micro-variations. But ground potential at any given point will be whatever is needed - that is, able to take 100% of what is 'above ground' relative to it. Which is what is measured (at that point) in any case, correct?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 9:23:12 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 6:19:27 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Yes, if you know about the theorem about combing a hairy ball the whole
thing seems less convincing!

..................


can global static electricity rises effect ground voltage ?

Probably on a global scale. Given all the various magnetic fields in and around the earth, given the differences in resistance from location to location (on land) and more, I am sure there are all sorts of micro-variations. But ground potential at any given point will be whatever is needed - that is, able to take 100% of what is 'above ground' relative to it. Which is what is measured (at that point) in any case, correct?

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

I doahn know. Searching does not in short time lead to pursuable paths.

My experiments in the area define the concept as behaviorally and then functionally positive pursuing action within the arrived at elevated or depressed electric charge space.

From there awareness of time differences.....1950 vs 2010 ....in environmental charges coming from rubber on cement, electrical line discharge, the gamut...for behavioral response to the environment is clearly yes it does this in a significant way.

This does not agree with your response. Link to the plumbing ?

The question posed here is based on a probably fictional number for stable microvolt flow in and out of the ground. A not available number ?

You write in pretzels, not clear English.

At the scales you are positing, there are very few things that humans could do that would affect global static potential. If the concept of a marble containing a large amount of iron and maintaining a significant magnetic field, traveling in a moderately hard (but by no means perfect) vacuum around a much larger magnetic field that is continuously spewing massive quantities of various particles, some charged, some not, some fast, some slow, some massive (in the realm of particles) and some not lets you see a way that rubber on concrete, even large amounts of it relative to human size and weight, will materially affect ground-voltage other than _very_ locally - I would like *that* explained.

No matter how arrogant Mankind might be, we are still barely the equivalent of light mold on an orange. And as far as the earth is concerned, various sorts of mold have come and gone with no material effect on the planet itself - not on any sort of galactic scale. We may render the planet inimical our particular type of mold, but as it happens, the earth just does not care as in the fullness of time, some other sort will come along.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, pA