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Need to bypass PIP mod. in CK31302.(red conn.)My hard drive crashed and i
lost file that contained this info.Thanks for help. Bill Phillips McLoud,OK. |
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Bill Phillips:
Do a google groups search for Mitsubishi PIP bypass..... lots of hits. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ------------------------- "Bill Phillips" wrote in message ... Need to bypass PIP mod. in CK31302.(red conn.)My hard drive crashed and i lost file that contained this info.Thanks for help. Bill Phillips McLoud,OK. |
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Bill Phillips:
Do a google groups search for Mitsubishi PIP bypass..... lots of hits. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ------------------------- "Bill Phillips" wrote in message ... Need to bypass PIP mod. in CK31302.(red conn.)My hard drive crashed and i lost file that contained this info.Thanks for help. Bill Phillips McLoud,OK. |
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"Bill Phillips" wrote in message ... Need to bypass PIP mod. in CK31302.(red conn.)My hard drive crashed and i lost file that contained this info.Thanks for help. Bill Phillips McLoud,OK. Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. |
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"Bill Phillips" wrote in message ... Need to bypass PIP mod. in CK31302.(red conn.)My hard drive crashed and i lost file that contained this info.Thanks for help. Bill Phillips McLoud,OK. Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. |
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Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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The info at Ohio's Nesda chapter keeps the total labor time well under 1/2
hour for a proper rebuild. Well worth fixing and easy to do. David Jason D. wrote in message ... Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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The info at Ohio's Nesda chapter keeps the total labor time well under 1/2
hour for a proper rebuild. Well worth fixing and easy to do. David Jason D. wrote in message ... Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:59:10 -0500, "David" wrote:
The info at Ohio's Nesda chapter keeps the total labor time well under 1/2 hour for a proper rebuild. Well worth fixing and easy to do. As I recall, these are mainly single tuner PIP sets, requiring an external source to provide the video - a pretty cumbersome setup at best. When I offer the option of bypassing or replacing, probably 99 percent opt to bypass - many had forgotten they even had PIP. I do, however, keep a stash of "duds", and occasionally rebuild the least corroded modules for customers opting to replace. Alan Harriman David Jason D. wrote in message ... Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:59:10 -0500, "David" wrote:
The info at Ohio's Nesda chapter keeps the total labor time well under 1/2 hour for a proper rebuild. Well worth fixing and easy to do. As I recall, these are mainly single tuner PIP sets, requiring an external source to provide the video - a pretty cumbersome setup at best. When I offer the option of bypassing or replacing, probably 99 percent opt to bypass - many had forgotten they even had PIP. I do, however, keep a stash of "duds", and occasionally rebuild the least corroded modules for customers opting to replace. Alan Harriman David Jason D. wrote in message ... Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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Alan Harriman:
Without exception, when my customers are given the choice of options.... rebuild or bypass.... and the corresponding invoice amounts, they choose the bypass.... and yes, most of these Mits televisions are the single tuner and cumbersome PIP arrangement with an external VCR tuner...... as you suggested, many of them have forgotten that they have PIP and/or have forgotten how to make it work with the external tuner. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ------------------------------------ "Alan Harriman" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:59:10 -0500, "David" wrote: The info at Ohio's Nesda chapter keeps the total labor time well under 1/2 hour for a proper rebuild. Well worth fixing and easy to do. As I recall, these are mainly single tuner PIP sets, requiring an external source to provide the video - a pretty cumbersome setup at best. When I offer the option of bypassing or replacing, probably 99 percent opt to bypass - many had forgotten they even had PIP. I do, however, keep a stash of "duds", and occasionally rebuild the least corroded modules for customers opting to replace. Alan Harriman David Jason D. wrote in message ... Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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Alan Harriman:
Without exception, when my customers are given the choice of options.... rebuild or bypass.... and the corresponding invoice amounts, they choose the bypass.... and yes, most of these Mits televisions are the single tuner and cumbersome PIP arrangement with an external VCR tuner...... as you suggested, many of them have forgotten that they have PIP and/or have forgotten how to make it work with the external tuner. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ------------------------------------ "Alan Harriman" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 16:59:10 -0500, "David" wrote: The info at Ohio's Nesda chapter keeps the total labor time well under 1/2 hour for a proper rebuild. Well worth fixing and easy to do. As I recall, these are mainly single tuner PIP sets, requiring an external source to provide the video - a pretty cumbersome setup at best. When I offer the option of bypassing or replacing, probably 99 percent opt to bypass - many had forgotten they even had PIP. I do, however, keep a stash of "duds", and occasionally rebuild the least corroded modules for customers opting to replace. Alan Harriman David Jason D. wrote in message ... Why don't you just fix it? The capacitors are cheap. This is true but three things works against yours: 1. Age of TV therefore age of tube. 2. Mitsubishi pip modules tend to be too gone when got their hands on it or has capacitor gack all over it, more work to carefully clean up. The stuff is very hard to remove, mostly water, oil and corrosive emulstion. Very necessary to prevent copper from corroding any futher. And very certain have to repair several corroded tracks. 3. Labor! Swapping out 26 caps takes quite awhile on a module kills the profit made on each because of #1 forces you to quote low estimate like 150 to 200, even less. Few people uses PIP. It's a no loss to lose it, just bypass it every time. Cheers, Wizard |
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