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Default 400HZ Notch Filter how to.

Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
remote manned sites to a central location.
The audio is microwaved from remote location to the central location.
Would like to know the formula for determing the resistor and capacitor
values.
The overall bandpass is 300HZ to 3KHZ.
Or would it be better to just use an High Pass filter.
Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Thanks.


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Default 400HZ Notch Filter how to.

Dana wrote:
Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
remote manned sites to a central location.

(Snip)
Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Thanks.


Synthesize your inductor with a Gyrator!
Here is a schematic for a graphic equalizer section using virtual
inductors. Extremely cool if it works.

http://www.4qdtec.com/graph.html

--Winston

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Default 400HZ Notch Filter how to.

Dana wrote:
Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
remote manned sites to a central location.

(Snip)
Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Thanks.


Synthesize your inductor with a Gyrator!
Here is a schematic for a graphic equalizer section using virtual
inductors. Extremely cool if it works.

http://www.4qdtec.com/graph.html

--Winston

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Da From: "Dana"
Da Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
Da remote manned sites to a central location.
Da The audio is microwaved from remote location to the central location.
Da Would like to know the formula for determing the resistor and
Da capacitor values.
Da The overall bandpass is 300HZ to 3KHZ.
Da Or would it be better to just use an High Pass filter.
Da Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Da Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Da Thanks.

For a resistor capacitor combination the Twin-T Notch filter comes to
mind. The notch frequency is equal to 1/(2piRC).

: C C
: In o-+---||----+-----||---+-o Out
: | | |
: | R/2 |
: | _|_ |
: | |
: `----R----+-----R----'
: |
: =3d=3d=3d 2C
: _|_

Try and pick practical values of capacitance consistant with impedance
of the driving circuit and loading of the input circuit. The R/2 can
consist of a variable resistor to slightly tune the notch. Care in
matching the components will result in a deeper notch but I think 5%
parts should give at least -35dB rejection.

BTW it would be far preferable to remove the offending interference
signal at the original source than to try fixing it at the receiver.

Asimov
******

.... Is reactance then illusory? No, it just appears that way...

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Default 400HZ Notch Filter how to.

"Dana" bravely wrote to "All" (29 Sep 03 17:54:35)
--- on the heady topic of "400HZ Notch Filter how to."

Da From: "Dana"
Da Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
Da remote manned sites to a central location.
Da The audio is microwaved from remote location to the central location.
Da Would like to know the formula for determing the resistor and
Da capacitor values.
Da The overall bandpass is 300HZ to 3KHZ.
Da Or would it be better to just use an High Pass filter.
Da Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Da Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Da Thanks.

For a resistor capacitor combination the Twin-T Notch filter comes to
mind. The notch frequency is equal to 1/(2piRC).

: C C
: In o-+---||----+-----||---+-o Out
: | | |
: | R/2 |
: | _|_ |
: | |
: `----R----+-----R----'
: |
: =3d=3d=3d 2C
: _|_

Try and pick practical values of capacitance consistant with impedance
of the driving circuit and loading of the input circuit. The R/2 can
consist of a variable resistor to slightly tune the notch. Care in
matching the components will result in a deeper notch but I think 5%
parts should give at least -35dB rejection.

BTW it would be far preferable to remove the offending interference
signal at the original source than to try fixing it at the receiver.

Asimov
******

.... Is reactance then illusory? No, it just appears that way...



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"Winston" wrote in message
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Dana wrote:
Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
remote manned sites to a central location.

(Snip)
Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Thanks.


Synthesize your inductor with a Gyrator!
Here is a schematic for a graphic equalizer section using virtual
inductors. Extremely cool if it works.

http://www.4qdtec.com/graph.html


Since electrical supply is really limited at the sites in question, they are
remote mountain tops, a passive device would be best bet.
But you are right this device on your link looks very neat. Will try
building it just to see how it works, may be able to use it at one of the
microwave hub sites where I have more available electricity, and the audio
circuits in question do go through another channel bank.

--Winston



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Dana
 
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Default 400HZ Notch Filter how to.

"Winston" wrote in message
...
Dana wrote:
Looking to notch out a 400HZ whine from some audio circuits connecting
remote manned sites to a central location.

(Snip)
Problem with that is getting the inductors locally.
Up here In Fairbanks our choices are very limited.

Thanks.


Synthesize your inductor with a Gyrator!
Here is a schematic for a graphic equalizer section using virtual
inductors. Extremely cool if it works.

http://www.4qdtec.com/graph.html


Since electrical supply is really limited at the sites in question, they are
remote mountain tops, a passive device would be best bet.
But you are right this device on your link looks very neat. Will try
building it just to see how it works, may be able to use it at one of the
microwave hub sites where I have more available electricity, and the audio
circuits in question do go through another channel bank.

--Winston



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