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please help me fix SMPS
DAMN i feel like i been to hell and back with this thing! i finally
found a nice guy at a TV repair shop who was willing to give me some functional information, but he told me that the cost was $90 just to put my SMPS on the bench and tell me which components were bad. after surfing to the far corners of cyberspace, my only option is to repair the thing myself. if people could give me some tips it would really save what is left of my ass. so here's the deal: -switch mode, looks like a half bridge type unit, form a projection TV -customer did some electrical work and sent 220 volts up the cord, now when i plug it in the only sign of life is a periodical, barely audible, click like a microscopic spark discharge. -but i know that's not what it is, because the outputs on the supply are totally flat. in circuit completely plugged in. dead. 0 volts ac & dc -the source voltage, raw 110, full rectified, filtered, is fine. measured approx 180 steady DC, which -goes to a STK730-130 regulator and support circuitry. -take it out of circuit. check it out: no visible signs of damage anywhere. no fuses. from left to right: input section, 180 DC, checks out mid section, STK chip, other circuitry, 5 primary taps. here i see something, i don't get it. theres a single resistor connected to STK pin 5. that's the "TR1 gate" pin. it must be the start resistor, but no, the other end of the resistor goes to DC ground, so it can't be.....whatever, the point is, its measuring only 8 ohms even though its supposed to be (hmmmmm....1....0.....yellow. 5?....4!) uuuuuhh.....100k. but am i just measuring the resistor? maybe the STK is shorted inside. who knows where those electrons are off to? here's something else, while it was in circuit i found the STK ground pin and found that there wasn't any voltage present on any of the other pins, ac or dc, except pin 11, the "TR1 drain" pin. 180 volts on pin 11. so the transistor must be shorted. i guess. right section, isolated by the transformer and a photocoupler, looks OK, diodes are OK, but how do you test a cap in circuit? or the transformer? and how do you trick it into thinking its in circuit so i can measure the outputs? its a projection TV, but i got no specs on voltage or wattage. and i can't get a doc for the STK730-130. you EE guys must have some fancy tricks n stuff to do this work. thanks anyone just for reading this message. hope someone can help. Louie |
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Louie wrote in
news:WRz_a.137822$o%2.59125@sccrnsc02: DAMN i feel like i been to hell and back with this thing! i finally found a nice guy at a TV repair shop who was willing to give me some functional information, but he told me that the cost was $90 just to put my SMPS on the bench and tell me which components were bad. after surfing to the far corners of cyberspace, my only option is to repair the thing myself. if people could give me some tips it would really save what is left of my ass. so here's the deal: -switch mode, looks like a half bridge type unit, form a projection TV -customer did some electrical work and sent 220 volts up the cord, now when i plug it in the only sign of life is a periodical, barely audible, click like a microscopic spark discharge. -but i know that's not what it is, because the outputs on the supply are totally flat. in circuit completely plugged in. dead. 0 volts ac & dc -the source voltage, raw 110, full rectified, filtered, is fine. measured approx 180 steady DC, which -goes to a STK730-130 regulator and support circuitry. -take it out of circuit. check it out: no visible signs of damage anywhere. no fuses. from left to right: input section, 180 DC, checks out mid section, STK chip, other circuitry, 5 primary taps. here i see something, i don't get it. theres a single resistor connected to STK pin 5. that's the "TR1 gate" pin. it must be the start resistor, but no, the other end of the resistor goes to DC ground, so it can't be.....whatever, the point is, its measuring only 8 ohms even though its supposed to be (hmmmmm....1....0.....yellow. 5?....4!) uuuuuhh.....100k. but am i just measuring the resistor? maybe the STK is shorted inside. who knows where those electrons are off to? here's something else, while it was in circuit i found the STK ground pin and found that there wasn't any voltage present on any of the other pins, ac or dc, except pin 11, the "TR1 drain" pin. 180 volts on pin 11. so the transistor must be shorted. i guess. right section, isolated by the transformer and a photocoupler, looks OK, diodes are OK, but how do you test a cap in circuit? or the transformer? and how do you trick it into thinking its in circuit so i can measure the outputs? its a projection TV, but i got no specs on voltage or wattage. and i can't get a doc for the STK730-130. you EE guys must have some fancy tricks n stuff to do this work. thanks anyone just for reading this message. hope someone can help. Louie Seems like you could go to the ECG website and find their version of this STK730 device,and they will have specs and pinout on it. -- Jim Yanik,NRA member remove null to contact me |
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Have you checked the output rectifiers for shorts? the ticking sound you
hear is the transformer as the supply is most likely working in protection mode, trying to start up registering a fault and resetting, "trip mode" if the line voltage was too high (220v) I would expect that the chip had failed I would also look at the reservior cap usually 220uf or so, here in the UK we use 240v mains so our caps are rated at 350v for mains reservior caps, but I guess if you only have 110v mains then 200v would be in order, you can usually take the power unit out and dissconnect the supply that feds the horizontal HT supply and substitue the load with a 100w fillament lamp, this will present a working load to the psu, but probably you would do well to just change stk and the photocoupler ic's as it seems like you are unable to test any of them good luck RID "Louie" wrote in message news:WRz_a.137822$o%2.59125@sccrnsc02... DAMN i feel like i been to hell and back with this thing! i finally found a nice guy at a TV repair shop who was willing to give me some functional information, but he told me that the cost was $90 just to put my SMPS on the bench and tell me which components were bad. after surfing to the far corners of cyberspace, my only option is to repair the thing myself. if people could give me some tips it would really save what is left of my ass. so here's the deal: -switch mode, looks like a half bridge type unit, form a projection TV -customer did some electrical work and sent 220 volts up the cord, now when i plug it in the only sign of life is a periodical, barely audible, click like a microscopic spark discharge. -but i know that's not what it is, because the outputs on the supply are totally flat. in circuit completely plugged in. dead. 0 volts ac & dc -the source voltage, raw 110, full rectified, filtered, is fine. measured approx 180 steady DC, which -goes to a STK730-130 regulator and support circuitry. -take it out of circuit. check it out: no visible signs of damage anywhere. no fuses. from left to right: input section, 180 DC, checks out mid section, STK chip, other circuitry, 5 primary taps. here i see something, i don't get it. theres a single resistor connected to STK pin 5. that's the "TR1 gate" pin. it must be the start resistor, but no, the other end of the resistor goes to DC ground, so it can't be.....whatever, the point is, its measuring only 8 ohms even though its supposed to be (hmmmmm....1....0.....yellow. 5?....4!) uuuuuhh.....100k. but am i just measuring the resistor? maybe the STK is shorted inside. who knows where those electrons are off to? here's something else, while it was in circuit i found the STK ground pin and found that there wasn't any voltage present on any of the other pins, ac or dc, except pin 11, the "TR1 drain" pin. 180 volts on pin 11. so the transistor must be shorted. i guess. right section, isolated by the transformer and a photocoupler, looks OK, diodes are OK, but how do you test a cap in circuit? or the transformer? and how do you trick it into thinking its in circuit so i can measure the outputs? its a projection TV, but i got no specs on voltage or wattage. and i can't get a doc for the STK730-130. you EE guys must have some fancy tricks n stuff to do this work. thanks anyone just for reading this message. hope someone can help. Louie |
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Rid wrote:
Have you checked the output rectifiers for shorts? all the diodes on the board measre about 7 ohms forward, infinite reverse. the ticking sound you hear is the transformer as the supply is most likely working in protection mode, trying to start up registering a fault and resetting, "trip mode" if the line voltage was too high (220v) I would expect that the chip had failed is that what the "error detection level" pin on the chip is for? I would also look at the reservior cap usually 220uf or so, here in the UK we use 240v mains so our caps are rated at 350v for mains reservior caps, but I guess if you only have 110v mains then 200v would be in order yeah its rated for 200V but its still working just fine. takes a few minutes to discharge on its own after i pull the plug. you can usually take the power unit out and dissconnect the supply that feds the horizontal HT supply and substitue the load with a 100w fillament lamp, this will present a working load to the psu, but probably you would do well to just change stk and the photocoupler ic's as it seems like you are unable to test any of them that's what i intend to do. thanks, RID Louie |
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