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What's it called ... ?
Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable,
usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa |
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily"
wrote in Message id: : Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa Possibly? http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...300-ND/1832096 |
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:03:50 -0500 JW wrote in Message id:
: On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" wrote in Message id: : Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa Possibly? http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...300-ND/1832096 Or better yet http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...100-ND/1107830 |
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"What do you call that brown candy that tastes like chocolate?"
You're probably trying to think of the name of the connector -- an "insulation displacement" connector. |
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
wrote: Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Something like this? http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one, to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the oven. Next time, I'll use RTV). I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat ribbon cable. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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For the reasons posted earlier, I tend to salvage all kinds of ribbin cables from non-repairable units. Fixed many a unit with scrap cables. Much easier than the wire/tape method.
Dan |
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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message news On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily" wrote: Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Something like this? http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one, to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the oven. Next time, I'll use RTV). I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat ribbon cable. -- Jeff Liebermann That's the right sort of spacing, and I know exactly what that stuff is. It's still not quite right though. The stuff shown there is made from flat conductors, a bit like flexiprint, that are folded round into 'tubes' where they emerge from the insulation, to form sort of connection 'pins' for soldering into a pcb Arfa |
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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message news On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily" wrote: Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Something like this? http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one, to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the oven. Next time, I'll use RTV). I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat ribbon cable. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 This is about as close as I've found so far http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOLEX-8820...item5af27135a6 Arfa |
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Arfa Daily submitted this idea :
Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa It is called a "flat flex cable" filtered for solder tab to solder tab. many examples here http://www.digikey.com/product-searc...=0&pageSize=25 and specifically one sample http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...202E-ND/470369 --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 02/12/2013 10:01, Arfa Daily wrote:
Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa I call it "bugger it (forgot the damn hotmelt)" Unless you run a fillet of hotmelt along the solder point line, at least one of the filaments break at a solder point on moving the ribbon |
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On 12/02/2013 05:42 PM, Arfa Daily wrote:
"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message news On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000, "Arfa Daily" wrote: Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Something like this? http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/206111/16540597/0/1349446147/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.jpg http://www.diytrade.com/china/pd/7565316/2_0_kapton_ribbon_Cable_ul5188.html I once found a vendor that will supply such ribbon cables cut to length, but only if I buy them by the thousands. I only needed one, to fix an oven controller, so I tediously made my own from individual solid wires and tape. (Hint: The tape glue eventually melted in the oven. Next time, I'll use RTV). I don't think there's a specific name for such cable. It's just flat ribbon cable. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 This is about as close as I've found so far http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOLEX-8820...item5af27135a6 Arfa These guys have a lot of ribbon cable: http://www.apexelectronic.com/image/tid/48 |
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:09:14 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
wrote: "JW" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:03:50 -0500 JW wrote in Message id: : On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" wrote in Message id: : Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa Possibly? http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...300-ND/1832096 Or better yet http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...100-ND/1107830 That looks pretty much like it. Looks like it's made by 3M. I'll do some more hunting based on that. Thanks for your input Arfa It is made by 3M. We used to get it from Mouser or Digikey to repair Sony BetaCam decks. Some operators would constantly move the control panel up and down breaking the ribbon cable link. Chuck |
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On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:27:39 -0600 chuck wrote in Message
id: : On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 12:09:14 -0000, "Arfa Daily" wrote: "JW" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:03:50 -0500 JW wrote in Message id: : On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 10:01:10 -0000 "Arfa Daily" wrote in Message id: : Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? Each individual wire is probably about one wire-width distant from its neighbours, so a piece say 8 conductors wide would be about the same width as a 'traditional' ribbon of 16 conductors. It's used to interconnect boards typically - think HK Actor or various Fender combos that have the preamp tubes on separate sub boards. Also used with those dreadful snatch connectors where the contacts grip the soldered wire surface so hard that you always finish up with the tinned tails bending, which then makes them a bitch to get back into the connector. Anyone ? Arfa Possibly? http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...300-ND/1832096 Or better yet http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...100-ND/1107830 That looks pretty much like it. Looks like it's made by 3M. I'll do some more hunting based on that. Thanks for your input Arfa It is made by 3M. We used to get it from Mouser or Digikey to repair Sony BetaCam decks. Some operators would constantly move the control panel up and down breaking the ribbon cable link. Chuck Weird. All of Arfa's posts after the original in this thread are not available on Astraweb's server. In any case, you're welcome. |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? I call it "power ribbon cable", but I don't know if that's the official name. It is all over the place in the larger Japanese consumer equipment I have taken the lids off of, like VCRs and stereos. Along that line, I Googled up some Japanese wire companies, but I can't find any that admit to making it, at least on their English web sites. Anyone ? 3M 8132 might be closer to what you want; it is 18 AWG wires (about 0.8 mm^2) on 0.156" (3.96 mm) centers. They seem to call it "power flat cable". More information might be available at this hideous link: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...gl1NNRWNJR31bl The same thing with resistor colors and 22 AWG wires (about 0.3 mm^2) is 3391: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...gl1NNRWNJR31bl Matt Roberds |
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wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? I call it "power ribbon cable", but I don't know if that's the official name. It is all over the place in the larger Japanese consumer equipment I have taken the lids off of, like VCRs and stereos. Along that line, I Googled up some Japanese wire companies, but I can't find any that admit to making it, at least on their English web sites. Anyone ? 3M 8132 might be closer to what you want; it is 18 AWG wires (about 0.8 mm^2) on 0.156" (3.96 mm) centers. They seem to call it "power flat cable". More information might be available at this hideous link: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...gl1NNRWNJR31bl The same thing with resistor colors and 22 AWG wires (about 0.3 mm^2) is 3391: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...gl1NNRWNJR31bl Matt Roberds Thanks Matt. I'll take a look when I have a minute Arfa |
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wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: Anyone know the name or catalogue description of that flat ribbon cable, usually grey but sometimes black, that has a sort of 'web' between the conductors, and is tinned when you strip it ? I call it "power ribbon cable", but I don't know if that's the official name. It is all over the place in the larger Japanese consumer equipment I have taken the lids off of, like VCRs and stereos. Along that line, I Googled up some Japanese wire companies, but I can't find any that admit to making it, at least on their English web sites. Anyone ? 3M 8132 might be closer to what you want; it is 18 AWG wires (about 0.8 mm^2) on 0.156" (3.96 mm) centers. They seem to call it "power flat cable". More information might be available at this hideous link: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...gl1NNRWNJR31bl The same thing with resistor colors and 22 AWG wires (about 0.3 mm^2) is 3391: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...gl1NNRWNJR31bl Matt Roberds Thanks Matt. I'll take a look when I have a minute Arfa |
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