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Ron February 13th 13 12:13 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a simple way to keep them working?

Ron


Michael A. Terrell February 13th 13 01:57 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 

Ron wrote:

I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a simple way to keep them working?



Model? Type?

Sjouke Burry[_5_] February 13th 13 02:21 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
Ron wrote in
:

I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record
tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but
I want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm
beginning to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life
span: they'll work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the
one I have now is working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop
working for a week or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does
anyone know why these microphones are so unreliable (besides being
cheap)? Or better still, a simple way to keep them working?

Ron


Most of them consist of a FET transistor with the base floating, and
picking up signal capacitively. So any static spark can easely destroy
them, when you touch the connector.
BUT, they are cheap, and sensitive.
Handle with care.

Phil Allison[_2_] February 13th 13 02:35 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 

"Sjouke Burry"


Most of them consist of a FET transistor with the base floating, and
picking up signal capacitively. So any static spark can easely destroy
them, when you touch the connector.



** Hog wash.

Electret mics are not subject to any such failure mode.

In any case, the OP's mic is probably dynamic.

http://www.radioshack.com/graphics/u...0306_PM_EN.pdf


..... Phil







Ron February 13th 13 03:28 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
On Feb 12, 6:35 pm, "Phil Allison" wrote:
"Sjouke Burry"



Most of them consist of a FET transistor with the base floating, and
picking up signal capacitively. So any static spark can easely destroy
them, when you touch the connector.


** Hog wash.

Electret mics are not subject to any such failure mode.

In any case, the OP's mic is probably dynamic.

http://www.radioshack.com/graphics/u...ctManuals/3300...

.... Phil


Yep, that's the one. Funny how quickly they self-destruct. Almost
makes ya want to pay that extra five bucks for the extended
warranty....

Ron


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waiting for the word."

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Phil Allison[_2_] February 13th 13 07:54 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 

"Ron"
"Phil Allison"
"Sjouke Burry"

Most of them consist of a FET transistor with the base floating, and
picking up signal capacitively. So any static spark can easely destroy
them, when you touch the connector.


** Hog wash.

Electret mics are not subject to any such failure mode.

In any case, the OP's mic is probably dynamic.

http://www.radioshack.com/graphics/u...ctManuals/3300...



Yep, that's the one. Funny how quickly they self-destruct.



** The mic capsule is very small and the impedance is 600ohms = lotsa hair
fine wire used in the voice coil.

Hair fine copper wire PLUS crappy Pb free solder = recipe for sudden
failures.

Hint: It's the flux....


..... Phil





Ron February 14th 13 04:22 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote:
I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a simple way to keep them working? Ron


Okay... I see why they fail, but why the failure, then after a week or a month, it works again for a while?

Ron


gregz February 14th 13 04:44 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
Ron wrote:
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote:
I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record
tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I
want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning
to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll
work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is
working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week
or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these
microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a
simple way to keep them working? Ron


Okay... I see why they fail, but why the failure, then after a week or a
month, it works again for a while?

Ron


Intermittent.

Take one apart. Got VOM ?

Greg

Mark Zacharias February 14th 13 10:41 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
"Ron" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote:
I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record tapes
on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I want
one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning to
notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll
work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is
working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or
more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these
microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a
simple way to keep them working? Ron


Okay... I see why they fail, but why the failure, then after a week or a
month, it works again for a while?


Ron



Is it a condenser mic? They use batteries.

Mic input on the recorder could have broken solder connections.

Mark Z.


Adrian Tuddenham[_2_] February 14th 13 11:15 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
gregz wrote:

Ron wrote:
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote:
I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record
tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I
want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning
to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll
work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is
working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week
or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these
microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a
simple way to keep them working? Ron


Okay... I see why they fail, but why the failure, then after a week or a
month, it works again for a while?

Ron


Intermittent.

Take one apart. Got VOM ?


If it has a battery, corrosion in the battery compartment is the most
likely cause. Whilst zinc-carbon batteries produce corrosion that is
usually fairly obvious, the corrosion from alkaline batteries is
sometime impossible to see. Luckily it is easy to remove with a cloth
dampened with tap water or with a wetted nylon scouring pad.

Don't forget to clean the battery as well as the contacts in the holder.
If that cures it, throw away the original battery and buy a good quality
one.


--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

Ron February 14th 13 10:47 PM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:44:26 PM UTC-8, GS wrote:
Ron wrote: On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote: I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack cassette microphone to record tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I don't need an expensive mic, but I want one that works and this one only works sporadically. I'm beginning to notice that these Radio Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll work great for a few weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is working, but I don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or more-- or it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these microphones are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a simple way to keep them working? Ron Okay... I see why they fail, but why the failure, then after a week or a month, it works again for a while? Ron Intermittent. Take one apart. Got VOM ? Greg


Not these days-- a sad story I wont bore you with. But if I had one, what would I be looking for? It's pretty certain that I'll buy one again, and it won't last any longer than an ice cube on a hot day. :-)

Ron

__________________

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–– Control Voice (The Outer Limits) ––




gregz February 15th 13 12:53 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
Ron wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:44:26 PM UTC-8, GS wrote:
Ron wrote: On Tuesday, February 12, 2013
4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote: I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack
cassette microphone to record tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I
don't need an expensive mic, but I want one that works and this one
only works sporadically. I'm beginning to notice that these Radio
Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll work great for a few
weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is working, but I
don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or more-- or
it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these microphones
are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a simple
way to keep them working? Ron Okay... I see why they fail, but why
the failure, then after a week or a month, it works again for a while?
Ron Intermittent. Take one apart. Got VOM ? Greg


Not these days-- a sad story I wont bore you with. But if I had one, what
would I be looking for? It's pretty certain that I'll buy one again, and
it won't last any longer than an ice cube on a hot day. :-)

Ron


Continuity. You should also hear clicking using a meter. Lightly pushing
around the mic element might make the connection good for some instant, or
it might temporally fix itself. Put leads on connector while doing this,
and also watch meter.
I would rather use an analog meter. The wires on the mic are very small.

Greg

gregz February 15th 13 12:55 AM

On Again, Off Again Microphone
 
gregz wrote:
Ron wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:44:26 PM UTC-8, GS wrote:
Ron wrote: On Tuesday, February 12, 2013
4:13:05 PM UTC-8, Ron wrote: I use-- or try to use-- a Radio Shack
cassette microphone to record tapes on a Panasonic tape recorder. I
don't need an expensive mic, but I want one that works and this one
only works sporadically. I'm beginning to notice that these Radio
Shack mikes have a limited life span: they'll work great for a few
weeks then die a quiet death. the one I have now is working, but I
don't know for how long; it may stop working for a week or more-- or
it may not ever work again. Does anyone know why these microphones
are so unreliable (besides being cheap)? Or better still, a simple
way to keep them working? Ron Okay... I see why they fail, but why
the failure, then after a week or a month, it works again for a while?
Ron Intermittent. Take one apart. Got VOM ? Greg


Not these days-- a sad story I wont bore you with. But if I had one, what
would I be looking for? It's pretty certain that I'll buy one again, and
it won't last any longer than an ice cube on a hot day. :-)

Ron


Continuity. You should also hear clicking using a meter. Lightly pushing
around the mic element might make the connection good for some instant, or
it might temporally fix itself. Put leads on connector while doing this,
and also watch meter.
I would rather use an analog meter. The wires on the mic are very small.

Greg


This is pretty much curiosity, it's unlikely you can fix mic element. I
don't think the switch is bad, but it could be the cable connection.

Greg


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