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Default Registering AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset?

As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? If possible without jerry-rigging
two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
contacts on the handset for the registration process?
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:28:28 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova
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As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? If possible without jerry-rigging
two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
contacts on the handset for the registration process?


No. In order to support interoperability among a mix of vendors, the
handset must support GAP (Generic Access Profile):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_access_profile
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300444/02.01.01_60/en_300444v020101p.pdf
This is widely supported in Europe, but not in the US. However, even
if GAP were supported, there is not test or certification requirement
for cross vendor interoperability. The GAP spec also does not cover
optional features, such as answering machines. If the base has an
answering machine, it's unlikely that another vendors handset can
program the answering machine as the menus are in the handset, not the
base.

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On Dec 14, 6:21*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:28:28 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova

wrote:
As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? *If possible without jerry-rigging
two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
contacts on the handset for the registration process?


No. *In order to support interoperability among a mix of vendors, the
handset must support GAP (Generic Access Profile):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_access_profile
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300444/02.01.01_60/...
This is widely supported in Europe, but not in the US. *However, even
if GAP were supported, there is not test or certification requirement
for cross vendor interoperability. *The GAP spec also does not cover
optional features, such as answering machines. *If the base has an
answering machine, it's unlikely that another vendors handset can
program the answering machine as the menus are in the handset, not the
base.

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OK thanks for that.I just thought that as both SEEM to use the same
freqs & (bare) specs and both support interop with additional
handsets, they might cross-support.

This bit of the referenced page certainly is confusing: "Most consumer-
level DECT phones and base stations support the GAP profile, even
those that do not publicize
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:11:47 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova
wrote:

On Dec 14, 6:21*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:28:28 -0800 (PST), Amanda Riphnykhazova

wrote:
As these DECT 6.0 systems are supposed to be compatible, does anyone
know if it is possible to register an AT&T Dect 6.0 base station with
Panasonic Dect 6.0 handset please? *If possible without jerry-rigging
two wires between the two contacts on the base station and the two
contacts on the handset for the registration process?


No. *In order to support interoperability among a mix of vendors, the
handset must support GAP (Generic Access Profile):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_access_profile
http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/300400_300499/300444/02.01.01_60/...
This is widely supported in Europe, but not in the US. *However, even
if GAP were supported, there is not test or certification requirement
for cross vendor interoperability. *The GAP spec also does not cover
optional features, such as answering machines. *If the base has an
answering machine, it's unlikely that another vendors handset can
program the answering machine as the menus are in the handset, not the
base.


OK thanks for that.I just thought that as both SEEM to use the same
freqs & (bare) specs and both support interop with additional
handsets, they might cross-support.


Frequencies:
1880 - 1900 MHz in Europe
1900 - 1920 MHz in China
1893 - 1906 MHz in Japan
1910 - 1930 MHz in Latin America
1920 - 1930 MHz in US and Canada

This bit of the referenced page certainly is confusing: "Most consumer-
level DECT phones and base stations support the GAP profile, even
those that do not publicize


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECT_6.0#DECT_6.0
DECT 6.0 products do not support "GAP", therefore phones of
differing brands are not guaranteed to work together. E.g.
A GE 28105EE1 DECT 6.0 headset will not receive calls if
registered to a Uniden base unit.

Actually, that's not quite true. GAP is not required for DECT 6.0
(which is not a standard but rather a marketing term). However some
vendors advertise GAP compatibility. For example:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dect+6.0+GAP&tbm=shop
Whether it actually works between different vendors is doubtful.



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