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Redirection - is there some way to 'see' the process?
I'm trying to learn about computing matters but am confused as to how this can happen. If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg Presumably the same thing will happen to you. I'd be grateful for confirmation of that! (If not, I guess I have a problem here!) How does this work, guys? Can I 'see' the process in some way? Any/all help appreciated. TIA. -- Dave |
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Wolfgang Allinger wrote:
On 07 Jan 12 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article (David_B) wrote: If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg Presumably the same thing will happen to you. I'd be grateful for confirmation of that! (If not, I guess I have a problem here!) Same with me from Paraguay ![]() How does this work, guys? Don`t know either. Saludos Wolfgang Thanks for responding. Your computer clock appears to be wrong! Your message is shown here as being posted at 11:27 am - but at the moments it's only around 10:30!! (GMT) HTH -- Dave |
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On 07/01/2012 09:07, David_B wrote:
Redirection - is there some way to 'see' the process? I'm trying to learn about computing matters but am confused as to how this can happen. If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg As you are using a Mac, you should have cUrl already installed. Try this from terminal. http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/10/06/ch...ers-with-curl/ -- Adrian C |
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![]() On 07 Jan 12 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article (~BD~) wrote: Wolfgang Allinger wrote: Same with me from Paraguay ![]() How does this work, guys? Don`t know either. Thanks for responding. Your computer clock appears to be wrong! Your message is shown here as being posted at 11:27 am - but at the moments it's only around 10:30!! (GMT) uups, posted it 06:27 PYST (Paraguay Summer Time) that`s UTC/GMT-3 the header says ...S-5 Grrrrr. Seems that my emailer and/or WinXP or the connection didn`t work correct for DST on the southern hemisphere. Don`t know if I can debug that. I will ship this approx at 08:30 Local time, after trying to manipulate the header time offset. Hopfully in the right direction. Saludos Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Allinger 15h00..21h00 MEZ: SKYPE:wolfgang.allinger Paraguay mailer: CrossPoint XP 3.20 (XP2) in WinXPprof DOSbox Meine 7 Sinne: reply Adresse gesetzt! Unsinn, Schwachsinn, Bloedsinn, Wahnsinn, Stumpfsinn, Irrsinn, Loetzinn. |
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![]() On 07 Jan 12 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article (David_B) wrote: If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg Presumably the same thing will happen to you. I'd be grateful for confirmation of that! (If not, I guess I have a problem here!) Same with me from Paraguay ![]() How does this work, guys? Don`t know either. Saludos Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Allinger 15h00..21h00 MEZ: SKYPE:wolfgang.allinger Paraguay mailer: CrossPoint XP 3.20 (XP2) in WinXPprof DOSbox Meine 7 Sinne: reply Adresse gesetzt! Unsinn, Schwachsinn, Bloedsinn, Wahnsinn, Stumpfsinn, Irrsinn, Loetzinn. |
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Adrian C wrote:
On 07/01/2012 09:07, David_B wrote: Redirection - is there some way to 'see' the process? I'm trying to learn about computing matters but am confused as to how this can happen. If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg As you are using a Mac, you should have cUrl already installed. Try this from terminal. http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/10/06/ch...ers-with-curl/ Hello Adrian Here's a snippet of what I found - I had no idea about such matters! Thank you so much - I have much to consider/learn! Dave * try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information unknown-00-23-12-24-26-b4:~ davidandtrishab$ curl --manual _ _ ____ _ Project ___| | | | _ \| | / __| | | | |_) | | | (__| |_| | _ | |___ \___|\___/|_| \_\_____| NAME curl - transfer a URL SYNOPSIS curl [options] [URL...] DESCRIPTION curl is a tool to transfer data from or to a server, using one of the supported protocols (DICT, FILE, FTP, FTPS, GOPHER, HTTP, HTTPS, IMAP, IMAPS, LDAP, LDAPS, POP3, POP3S, RTMP, RTSP, SCP, SFTP, SMTP, SMTPS, TELNET and TFTP). The command is designed to work without user inter- action. curl offers a busload of useful tricks like proxy support, user authen- tication, FTP upload, HTTP post, SSL connections, cookies, file trans- fer resume and more. As you will see below, the number of features will make your head spin! curl is powered by libcurl for all transfer-related features. See libcurl(3) for details. URL The URL syntax is protocol-dependent. You'll find a detailed descrip- tion in RFC 3986. You can specify multiple URLs or parts of URLs by writing part sets within braces as in: http://site.{one,two,three}.com or you can get sequences of alphanumeric series by using [] as in: ftp://ftp.numericals.com/file[1-100].txt ftp://ftp.numericals.com/file[001-100].txt (with leading zeros) ftp://ftp.letters.com/file[a-z].txt Nested sequences are not supported, but you can use several ones next to each other: http://any.org/archive[1996-1999]/vol[1-4]/part{a,b,c}.html You can specify any amount of URLs on the command line. They will be fetched in a sequential manner in the specified order. You can specify a step counter for the ranges to get every Nth number or letter: http://www.numericals.com/file[1-100:10].txt http://www.letters.com/file[a-z:2].txt If you specify URL without protocol:// prefix, curl will attempt to guess what protocol you might want. It will then default to HTTP but try other protocols based on often-used host name prefixes. For exam- ple, for host names starting with "ftp." curl will assume you want to speak FTP. curl will do its best to use what you pass to it as a URL. It is not trying to validate it as a syntactically correct URL by any means but is instead very liberal with what it accepts. Curl will attempt to re-use connections for multiple file transfers, so that getting many files from the same server will not do multiple con- nects / handshakes. This improves speed. Of course this is only done on files specified on a single command line and cannot be used between separate curl invokes. |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:07:30 +0000, David_B
wrote: Redirection - is there some way to 'see' the process? Sorta. Try traceroute. From your header, it appears that you're using a Mac. Go to the shell, er... terminal window and run: traceroute www.dreamservermore.com resulting in something that ends in this: 11 ace-data-centers-gw.ip4.tinet.net (173.241.129.46) 44.007 ms 42.955 ms 42.500 ms 12 tg1-1.ar01.prov.acedc.net (199.58.196.37) 58.137 ms 43.033 ms 42.196 ms 13 port1.ar01.prov.bluehost.com (199.58.199.114) 143.064 ms 212.679 ms 122.074 ms 14 box494.bluehost.com (66.147.242.94) 58.168 ms 41.456 ms 41.801 ms Bluehost.com is a web hosting provider that has probably hundreds of web sites hidden behind this one IP address including dreamservermore.com. http://whois.domaintools.com/66.147.242.94 However, the exact target IP of www.dreamservermore.com is controlled by DNS which is under the control of whomever owns dreamservermore.com. Oops. Looks like something just changed while I was testing. Whois, nslookup, ping, and now traceroute all claim that dreamservermore.com does not exist. I think they just pulled the plug on this domain. It previously pointed to www.cosmeticsolutions.com, but after I flushed the DNS cache, the web browser comes up with "problem loading page". Anyway, what I'm guessing was happening was that whomever was in control of the domain, was using URL redirection to point to other web sites. This is a feature provided by almost all domain registry services. I'm trying to learn about computing matters but am confused as to how this can happen. It's intentional. For example, I have that running on one of my domains. If you go to: http://www.LearnByDestroying.com you get redirected to: http://members.cruzio.com/~jeffl/ Note that the browser shows the target URL. I could also wrap it inside an HTML frame, and have the browser show the original URL. If you try to use traceroute to locate www.LearnByDestroying.com, you'll get about 20 hops, ending in Germany, where I have the domain registered with Joker.com. I was hoping that it would then show the redirected route from Germany to Santa Cruz, where the actual web server is located, but I guess not. Sorry, but I can't demonstrate the entire path. If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg Presumably the same thing will happen to you. I'd be grateful for confirmation of that! (If not, I guess I have a problem here!) How does this work, guys? Can I 'see' the process in some way? Any/all help appreciated. TIA. You really should post your question in a networking newsgroup, not a repair newsgroup. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:23:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: Anyway, what I'm guessing was happening was that whomever was in control of the domain, was using URL redirection to point to other web sites. This is a feature provided by almost all domain registry services. I forgot the requisite Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:23:25 -0800, Jeff wrote: Anyway, what I'm guessing was happening was that whomever was in control of the domain, was using URL redirection to point to other web sites. This is a feature provided by almost all domain registry services. I forgot the requisite Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL_redirection Thanks for your help Jeff. I was reading at the wiki link earlier today. I posted here because I've been reading many of the discussions and like the way the folk here conduct themselves. That was after I'd asked about TV aerial problems some weeks ago and got some very helpful responses. I'll come back and study what you said in detail tomorrow - it's late here and I'm rather tired. I'm interested in the fact that 'someone' wasn't happy with you using the domain! I found it (dreamservermore.com) here btw - http://www.luftmensch.com/boards/ "Click *here* and read the pathetic personal homepage of Chung Y. Chow." Cheers Dave |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:39:41 +0000, Adrian C
wrote: As you are using a Mac, you should have cUrl already installed. Try this from terminal. http://www.g-loaded.eu/2006/10/06/ch...ers-with-curl/ It works. However, I had to update curl from 7.16.4 to 7.23.1 on my iMac G5 PPC in order to get it to display properly. Using my redirected web server: $ /usr/local/bin/curl -I -L http://www.learnbydestroying.com HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently Server: redir-httpd Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:44:20 GMT Location: http://members.cruzio.com/~jeffl/ Last-Modified: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:07:36 GMT Content-Length: 137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:44:20 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) PHP/4.3.8 Content-Type: text/html Nice. It shows the redirection. Thanks for the hint. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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David_B wrote:
Redirection - is there some way to 'see' the process? I'm trying to learn about computing matters but am confused as to how this can happen. If I type, for example, http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ into an address bar of one of my browsers and click 'go' (if necessary) I'm immediately whisked off to here instead:- http://i43.tinypic.com/2vt8io5.jpg Presumably the same thing will happen to you. I'd be grateful for confirmation of that! (If not, I guess I have a problem here!) How does this work, guys? Can I 'see' the process in some way? C:\tmpgraburl -h http://www.dreamsevermore.com/ HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily Connection: close Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:05:28 GMT Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 X-Powered-By: ASP.NET location: http://www.cosmeticsolutions.com Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 |
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