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Hi, all,
I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? (I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger |
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On Dec 15, 1:21*pm, Engineer wrote:
Hi, all, I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. *These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. *They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. *One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) *They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? *(I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? *Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger I would start by taking a photo or two of the present thermostats and posting them here so folks who are in the know could see them. At the very least, post some id's that you find on the thermostats. Or, go to the Saeco/mfgr and get parts info from them without actually buying them. The parts info would be a reasonable starting point for most folks. |
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On Dec 15, 4:40*pm, " wrote:
On Dec 15, 1:21*pm, Engineer wrote: Hi, all, I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. *These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. *They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. *One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) *They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? *(I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? *Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger I would start by taking a photo or two of the present thermostats and posting them here so folks who are in the know could see them. *At the very least, post some id's that you find on the thermostats. *Or, go to the Saeco/mfgr and get parts info from them without actually buying them. *The parts info would be a reasonable starting point for most folks. I've mislaid the one I took out and I don't really want to open up one of the other machines... so no photo for now! However, these are very common things, round, a bit like a thick nickel with two spade connectors across a diameter. I may call Saeco service but I'm not sure they would want to cannibalize sales! Cheers, Roger |
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On Dec 18, 11:06*pm, Michael Karas wrote:
In article 3fc31092-e2a3-4fde-b2a2-709232dc0756 @da3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 4:40*pm, " wrote: On Dec 15, 1:21*pm, Engineer wrote: Hi, all, I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. *These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. *They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. *One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) *They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? *(I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? *Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger I would start by taking a photo or two of the present thermostats and posting them here so folks who are in the know could see them. *At the very least, post some id's that you find on the thermostats. *Or, go to the Saeco/mfgr and get parts info from them without actually buying them. *The parts info would be a reasonable starting point for most folks. I've mislaid the one I took out and I don't really want to open up one of the other machines... so no photo for now! However, these are very common things, round, a bit like a thick nickel with two spade connectors across a diameter. I may call Saeco service but I'm not sure they would want to cannibalize sales! Cheers, Some Engineer !! At least that is my opinion. Have you done ANY effort with Google? Or searched at an on-line parts distributor?? In five seconds I captured this link with a whole page full of these devices. http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....rmostat+switch -- Michael Karas Carousel Design Solutionshttp://www.carousel-design.com Yes, this is what they look like. Ignoring your curmudgeonly comments, would you or anyone else happen to know the two temperature values for the coffee machine? My guess is 90 deg C and 105 deg C. Cheers. Roger |
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On Dec 19, 7:55*am, Engineer wrote:
On Dec 18, 11:06*pm, Michael Karas wrote: In article 3fc31092-e2a3-4fde-b2a2-709232dc0756 @da3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 4:40*pm, " wrote: On Dec 15, 1:21*pm, Engineer wrote: Hi, all, I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. *These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. *They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. *One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) *They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? *(I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? *Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger I would start by taking a photo or two of the present thermostats and posting them here so folks who are in the know could see them. *At the very least, post some id's that you find on the thermostats. *Or, go to the Saeco/mfgr and get parts info from them without actually buying them. *The parts info would be a reasonable starting point for most folks. I've mislaid the one I took out and I don't really want to open up one of the other machines... so no photo for now! However, these are very common things, round, a bit like a thick nickel with two spade connectors across a diameter. I may call Saeco service but I'm not sure they would want to cannibalize sales! Cheers, Some Engineer !! At least that is my opinion. Have you done ANY effort with Google? Or searched at an on-line parts distributor?? In five seconds I captured this link with a whole page full of these devices. http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....rmostat+switch -- Michael Karas Carousel Design Solutionshttp://www.carousel-design.com Yes, this is what they look like. *Ignoring your curmudgeonly comments, would you or anyone else happen to know the two temperature values for the coffee machine? *My guess is 90 deg C and 105 deg C. Cheers. Apparently Roger's computer did not come equipped with Google. Using search terms such as "Saeco" and "thermostats" I was able to find web pages like http://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/category-s/720.htm which indicate that FOR AT LEAST ONE MODEL SAECO |
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On Dec 19, 8:30*am, spamtrap1888 wrote:
On Dec 19, 7:55*am, Engineer wrote: On Dec 18, 11:06*pm, Michael Karas wrote: In article 3fc31092-e2a3-4fde-b2a2-709232dc0756 @da3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 4:40*pm, " wrote: On Dec 15, 1:21*pm, Engineer wrote: Hi, all, I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. *These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. *They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. *One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) *They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? *(I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? *Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger I would start by taking a photo or two of the present thermostats and posting them here so folks who are in the know could see them. *At the very least, post some id's that you find on the thermostats. *Or, go to the Saeco/mfgr and get parts info from them without actually buying them. *The parts info would be a reasonable starting point for most folks. I've mislaid the one I took out and I don't really want to open up one of the other machines... so no photo for now! However, these are very common things, round, a bit like a thick nickel with two spade connectors across a diameter. I may call Saeco service but I'm not sure they would want to cannibalize sales! Cheers, Some Engineer !! At least that is my opinion. Have you done ANY effort with Google? Or searched at an on-line parts distributor?? In five seconds I captured this link with a whole page full of these devices. http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....rmostat+switch -- Michael Karas Carousel Design Solutionshttp://www.carousel-design.com Yes, this is what they look like. *Ignoring your curmudgeonly comments, would you or anyone else happen to know the two temperature values for the coffee machine? *My guess is 90 deg C and 105 deg C. Cheers. Apparently Roger's computer did not come equipped with Google. Using search terms such as "Saeco" and "thermostats" I was able to find web pages likehttp://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/category-s/720.htmwhich indicate that FOR AT LEAST ONE MODEL SAECO Hmm... google decided to post when I hit Enter. Anyways: .... the thermostats are 95C and 127C. Here's where knowing one's espresso maker's model number would come in really really handy. Some appliance manufacturers even have a feature known as "customer service" which supplies information about their products to people who own them. But why not just post all one's questions to s.e.r.? |
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On Dec 19, 11:43*am, spamtrap1888 wrote:
On Dec 19, 8:30*am, spamtrap1888 wrote: On Dec 19, 7:55*am, Engineer wrote: On Dec 18, 11:06*pm, Michael Karas wrote: In article 3fc31092-e2a3-4fde-b2a2-709232dc0756 @da3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 15, 4:40*pm, " wrote: On Dec 15, 1:21*pm, Engineer wrote: Hi, all, I keep one of our three espresso coffee machines up and running (available that is, not actually brewing!) by cannibalizing the others and buying a few spares parts now and again. *These machines are the semi-vintage, three button (or switch), high-pressure water-pump type, Saeco brand and similar. *They are not the new, expensive microprocessor-controlled things you can't fix! I want to stock up on thermostats... there are two in the machine on the boiler. *One is for the sub-boiling point water (to pump through the coffee) and the other for the subsequent steam generation (over 100 deg C.) *They look like standard small industrial types worth a buck or two at most... so I don't want to buy them at the not-so-local Saeco service centre for an "elevated resale price". Questions: What are the two temperatures settings for these? *(I'd guess at about 90 deg C and 105 deg C, respectively, based on the physics - but I'm really not sure.) Where might I get them in the Greater Toronto Area (Canada)? *Or by mail order? Thanks for all replies. Merry Christmas! Cheers, Roger I would start by taking a photo or two of the present thermostats and posting them here so folks who are in the know could see them. *At the very least, post some id's that you find on the thermostats. *Or, go to the Saeco/mfgr and get parts info from them without actually buying them. *The parts info would be a reasonable starting point for most folks. I've mislaid the one I took out and I don't really want to open up one of the other machines... so no photo for now! However, these are very common things, round, a bit like a thick nickel with two spade connectors across a diameter. I may call Saeco service but I'm not sure they would want to cannibalize sales! Cheers, Some Engineer !! At least that is my opinion. Have you done ANY effort with Google? Or searched at an on-line parts distributor?? In five seconds I captured this link with a whole page full of these devices. http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine....rmostat+switch -- Michael Karas Carousel Design Solutionshttp://www.carousel-design.com Yes, this is what they look like. *Ignoring your curmudgeonly comments, would you or anyone else happen to know the two temperature values for the coffee machine? *My guess is 90 deg C and 105 deg C. Cheers. Apparently Roger's computer did not come equipped with Google. Using search terms such as "Saeco" and "thermostats" I was able to find web pages likehttp://www.seattlecoffeegear.com/category-s/720.htmwhich indicate that FOR AT LEAST ONE MODEL SAECO Hmm... google decided to post when I hit Enter. Anyways: ... the thermostats are 95C and 127C. Here's where knowing one's espresso maker's model number would come in really really handy. Some appliance manufacturers even have a feature known as "customer service" which supplies information about their products to people who own them. But why not just post all one's questions to s.e.r.? Ah, ha...95 deg C and 127 deg C. Many thanks. I am a bit surprised at the 127, much higher than my guess... figure out the pressure. Hint: steam tables Cheers, Roger |
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