12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but that
would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called a 12 inch
model ?

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but that
would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called a 12 inch
model ?


Sales droids rounding up.

--
Boris

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but that
would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called a 12 inch
model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. Lately, the
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they are
back to their old games.

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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but that
would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called a 12
inch
model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. Lately, the
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they are
back to their old games.


Seems its worse than that, called 13.4 inches , not 13 inches

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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but
that would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called
a 12 inch model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. Lately, the
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they are
back to their old games.


now we also have to deal with extrawide screens.
not only 16:9 "hi-def",but greater ratios.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

On Nov 7, 1:49*pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
wrote :

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but
that would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called
a 12 inch model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. *Lately, the
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they are
back to their old games.

now we also have to deal with extrawide screens.
not only 16:9 "hi-def",but greater ratios.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

So, if you want a screen size that is vertically the same as a tv you
are replacing, you have to buy a larger size, if you are not smart or
alert enough to figure this out, and buy a tv with the same diagonal
measurement as your old tv set, the picture will be noticeably smaller
in the vertical direction and that much harder to see.

In article 76dc15cb-973e-4a9d-9d1a-
, says...
On Nov 7, 1:49*pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
wrote :

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook" wrote:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask, but
that would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would be called
a 12 inch model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. *Lately, the
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they are
back to their old games.

now we also have to deal with extrawide screens.
not only 16:9 "hi-def",but greater ratios.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

So, if you want a screen size that is vertically the same as a tv you
are replacing, you have to buy a larger size, if you are not smart or
alert enough to figure this out, and buy a tv with the same diagonal
measurement as your old tv set, the picture will be noticeably smaller
in the vertical direction and that much harder to see.


Just look at how much of the HD pic you see on a standard TV. You'll
soon figure out those black bands top and bottom take out a chunk of
size. I figured I will get the same picture size as my 27-28" SD TV with
a 32" High Def one, even with the reduced height, because it is already
being reduced by the broadcaster.

- Tim -

Tim wrote in
:

In article 76dc15cb-973e-4a9d-9d1a-
, says...
On Nov 7, 1:49*pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
wrote
innews:[email protected]
.com:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook"
wrote
:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask,
but that would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would
be called a 12 inch model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. *Lately,
t
he
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they
are back to their old games.

now we also have to deal with extrawide screens.
not only 16:9 "hi-def",but greater ratios.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

So, if you want a screen size that is vertically the same as a tv you
are replacing, you have to buy a larger size, if you are not smart
or alert enough to figure this out, and buy a tv with the same
diagonal measurement as your old tv set, the picture will be
noticeably smaller in the vertical direction and that much harder to
see.


Just look at how much of the HD pic you see on a standard TV. You'll
soon figure out those black bands top and bottom take out a chunk of
size. I figured I will get the same picture size as my 27-28" SD TV
with a 32" High Def one, even with the reduced height, because it is
already being reduced by the broadcaster.

- Tim -


I don't like the flat panel TVs,because EVERY one I've seen,in stores and
sports bars,have improper geometry;
a circle looks oval,and peoples heads look flattened. the vertical was
being compressed.
it didn't matter what aspect ratio was being displayed.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Jim Yanik wrote in message
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Tim wrote in
:

In article 76dc15cb-973e-4a9d-9d1a-
, says...
On Nov 7, 1:49 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:
wrote
innews:[email protected]
.com:

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:33:02 -0000, "N_Cook"
wrote
:

12.1 inch diagonal, from corner to corner of the overlying mask,
but that would be called 13 inches wouldn't it. No way it would
be called a 12 inch model ?

For a while, they were all being honest about LCD sizes. Lately,
t
he
word "class" has been used - as in "22 inch class TV" - so they
are back to their old games.

now we also have to deal with extrawide screens.
not only 16:9 "hi-def",but greater ratios.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

So, if you want a screen size that is vertically the same as a tv you
are replacing, you have to buy a larger size, if you are not smart
or alert enough to figure this out, and buy a tv with the same
diagonal measurement as your old tv set, the picture will be
noticeably smaller in the vertical direction and that much harder to
see.


Just look at how much of the HD pic you see on a standard TV. You'll
soon figure out those black bands top and bottom take out a chunk of
size. I figured I will get the same picture size as my 27-28" SD TV
with a 32" High Def one, even with the reduced height, because it is
already being reduced by the broadcaster.

- Tim -


I don't like the flat panel TVs,because EVERY one I've seen,in stores and
sports bars,have improper geometry;
a circle looks oval,and peoples heads look flattened. the vertical was
being compressed.
it didn't matter what aspect ratio was being displayed.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


Its judder between frames of moving video content I cannot tolerate. I've
just worked how to reconfigure and retain my nice 20 yearold CTR TV with the
total UHF-analogue switch off in our area in 4 months time.

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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I don't like the flat panel TVs, because EVERY one I've seen,
in stores and sports bars,have improper geometry;
a circle looks oval, and peoples heads look flattened. the vertical
was being compressed.
it didn't matter what aspect ratio was being displayed.

Mr Yanik, this is physically impossible.

A 16:9 set with 1080 by 1920 pixels CANNOT display a 16:9 image with
anything other than correct geometry. There is a fixed number of pixels,
with a fixed "shape" (square).

What you are most-likely seeing is a 4:3 broadcast that has been widened to
fill the screen.

How could a rational person think that monitors were so grossly misdesigned?

It's judder between frames of moving video content I cannot tolerate.

There are sets without this problem (generally plasma). Buy one.